Anyone else disappointed with BF3?

[pontifex]

I was getting frustrated so i played WoW for a bit (i know, dont laugh)...and it was a little "shocking" to see it's possible to play a game without any jaggies again, for a change.
I know its not a comparison by a long shot - but makes you wonder why all new games which boast superb graphics and superior game engines need new hardware to look "decent" or for even enabling AA, if it even works.

uh no, no it doesn't...this has been like this for like...everything, ever...

"man, when I try to watch blu-ray movies on my 13" b&w tv, it doesn't look very good. Why the hell do i need to watch them on the latest technology?"

 

[HeXen]

i rarely get revived from medics, fewer players bother to pick me up or wont wait 1 sec for me to catch up...feels more like everyone does the lone wolf thing. i havnt figured out how to grab medkits/ammo and use them or its not working for me?

however i like the sniper scope reflectives, it makes for more fair play imo, so they can't just hide so easily from so far away. i don't mind campers at choke points, gives a challenge of the hunt and to rethink how to obtain your objective.
other than a few annoyances, i'm having a blast playing so far.

but without enough rewards, objectives would feel pointless, it would then just be a UT game, at least for some people like me.

main thing i need to stop doing is randomly shooting areas where i can't see too well hoping to find a target. wastes too much time and energy, but i don't often see enemies too well, i think i need to adjust contrast or something. mouse sensitivity too high as well despite i keep lowering it.

 

[Childs]

I was getting frustrated so i played WoW for a bit (i know, dont laugh)...and it was a little "shocking" to see it's possible to play a game without any jaggies again, for a change.
I know its not a comparison by a long shot - but makes you wonder why all new games which boast superb graphics and superior game engines need new hardware to look "decent" or for even enabling AA, if it even works.

Post processing AA set to high looks relatively good with little performance hit. You dont really need 4XAA with it enabled. Maybe if you stood in one place and looked for jaggies, but while in motion it looks decent.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

i rarely get revived from medics, fewer players bother to pick me up or wont wait 1 sec for me to catch up...feels more like everyone does the lone wolf thing. i havnt figured out how to grab medkits/ammo and use them or its not working for me?

however i like the sniper scope reflectives, it makes for more fair play imo, so they can't just hide so easily from so far away. i don't mind campers at choke points, gives a challenge of the hunt and to rethink how to obtain your objective.
other than a few annoyances, i'm having a blast playing so far.

but without enough rewards, objectives would feel pointless, it would then just be a UT game, at least for some people like me.

main thing i need to stop doing is randomly shooting areas where i can't see too well hoping to find a target. wastes too much time and energy, but i don't often see enemies too well, i think i need to adjust contrast or something. mouse sensitivity too high as well despite i keep lowering it.

Ammo and Health packs have an area of effect. If you're within range you'll heal/pick up ammo. In BF3 you can swap out the Defib for something else so not everyone can revive.

 

[Northern Lawn]

I'm not loving BF3 either and I was a BC2 fanatic.

I thought maybe I was gamed out, but I feel like going to BC2 and try it with my new video card that I bought for BF3. I'm not sure what it is, maybe the maps are too large. Lots of times I've seen choke points in fact on that one map where you start out in a aircraft carrier, we couldn't even get on land last time I played that map. Plus my brother said someone landed on top of the airstrip and jumped in the anti aircraft gun and whenever a plane spawn he would destroy it, lol. Thats a good move actually.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Loved BC2 alot more sadly enough...at least that game is more stable.

Was loving BF3 but today no matter what server i went on...piss poor lagging ,rubberbanding and performance went out the window as where yesterday it was pretty playable.

Do have a dual core tho but still i couldn't gun a copter a copter for sh*t today and rolling out a tank in caspian it just lagged till the point i couldn't control the tank...yesterday it was fine.

Disabled every service i could enabled windows 7 basic theme running the simple essentials for the game only and the same crap ,

DX errors that are related to either or not i have any virtual memory saved meaning the recommended 4gb of ram is a bunch of bs...

 

[flexy]

Post processing AA set to high looks relatively good with little performance hit. You dont really need 4XAA with it enabled. Maybe if you stood in one place and looked for jaggies, but while in motion it looks decent.

I don't know how it will look with DX11, but here post processing AA makes everything look washed out...foliage etc. loses all details. Yes everything looks "smoother", but for sure not "better".

 

[Childs]

I don't know how it will look with DX11, but here post processing AA makes everything look washed out...foliage etc. loses all details. Yes everything looks "smoother", but for sure not "better".

Well, here is some sample footage from tonight with it off. I also turn motion blur off, because excessive blur bothers my eyes, so maybe that helps retain its sharpness. Youtube will degrade the quality, but it motion in real time it looks pretty good. You can mainly see it on the aiming reticule, and some poles in the distance. It seems to make everything feel smoother gameplay wise, probably because there is no 4XAA performance hit.

 

[brencat]

I'm not loving BF3 either and I was a BC2 fanatic.

I thought maybe I was gamed out, but I feel like going to BC2 and try it with my new video card that I bought for BF3. I'm not sure what it is, maybe the maps are too large. Lots of times I've seen choke points in fact on that one map where you start out in a aircraft carrier, we couldn't even get on land last time I played that map. Plus my brother said someone landed on top of the airstrip and jumped in the anti aircraft gun and whenever a plane spawn he would destroy it, lol. Thats a good move actually.

I too was a BC2 fanatic and I was skeptical of BF3 the first couple nights I played. But there is no question BF3 is a great game. The maps are MUCH larger overall, there's a lot more players per map, and yes there are some early glitches and performance issues which will be worked out over time.

I really suck right now because I don't know the maps too well yet but like anything, you learn where to camp eventually to maximize points. The one major difference I noticed right away is the environments. In BC2, there were relatively few places people camped out (in windows overlooking choke points, behind a few key walls etc). But in BF3 there are a TON of places to hide... in the bushes, on the mountain ledges, behind broken walls, behind crates, on and on and on. And you don't need to be right on top of the flag either to capture it so it forces defenders or strike teams to search out the campers around the flag. I'm only level 9 and my k/d ratio is a pitiful 0.6 but I am a really good medic and I ALWAYS revive people if I can.

 

[pcslookout]

No not at all.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Love the game when it works right performance wise.

Tons of morons in the game i swear they switched from COD or something...true bf2 vet wouldn't crash a copter the moment it goes up in the air and tons of campers compared to a any fps i've played in a while .

Still has some glitchs like the bad luck one i was up in the air with some pilot and boom my copter just blows up for no particular reason LOL....right in our base too .

 

[HeXen]

Tons of morons in the game i swear they switched from COD or something...true bf2 vet wouldn't crash a copter the moment it goes up in the air and tons of campers compared to a any fps i've played in a while .

maybe their not BF2 vets or have not played BF2 in years.

 

[skipsneeky2]

maybe their not BF2 vets or have not played BF2 in years.

No one hands out ammo or med kits i do it all the time i could be on my last leg with 5% health and there's a camping moron i ask for a med kit i get nothing and my luck i engage a enemy and i die....piss poor team work.

Which makes me think a lot of ex cod gamer's cause their game is based on health regeneration and they forget you actually need med kits in this game to survive its a theory is all nothing else explains it .

 

[micrometers]

lol. the *fun* to be had in this case is with building your rig and then watching the frame rate counter.

As for gameplay, meh, it's all the same.

 

[skipsneeky2]

lol. the *fun* to be had in this case is with building your rig and then watching the frame rate counter.

As for gameplay, meh, it's all the same.

Gameplay sometimes is more fun and sometimes more annoying...i rather be in BC2 getting teamkilled then in BF3 when some a**hole teammate is flashing you in the face with that flashlight.

So BF3 comes with new annoyances and as for morons and idiots i guess they will be in every fps so not fair to rate the game based on it.

Vehicle regen is pretty bad now we have tank snipers sometimes even firing into your base...so now you can sit in a tank off in some remote hill for a entire round and if your lucky they have a buddy repairing it and jumping back in :awe:

 

[micrometers]

My point is that with computer games, after a while you get past the eye candy and it's pretty simple.

*still rocks Warcraft 3, the most perfect game ever*

 

[schneiderguy]

As an actual sequel of BF2 it's pretty disappointing. It doesn't do anything better than BF2 to be honest, and a lot of it is worse.

As a sequel to BC2 (I just call it BC3 now :awe it's pretty fun. The maps work better on Rush than Conquest IMO.

Maybe the Back to Karkand pack will make things feel more like BF2 than BC2.

 

[flexy]

I see that "Rush" is way better than Conquest...yes i agree with poster above. SOME maps are really good.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

the only thing that disappoints me about BF3 is the huge number of other just as awesome games that have come out or will come out in the same time frame is eating into my BF3 playtime

 

[Arkaign]

I got it, I'm terrible at it at the moment for the most part, about a 1:1 KD ratio, but I'm a maniac engineer, I repair tanks like a demon, I think I got 15 mainenance badges one round. It's a lot of fun, even if I was a little late getting started, and don't have the infinite time some of these people seem to have. I've played about 5 hours or so now I think. Hard to have time when you have a 4-year-old and a job lol.

I like it substantially better than BC2, which always felt too cramped and small for me. I don't have that BF2 magic feeling, but there are things I actually prefer about BF3 over BF2, for one thing the aircraft don't seem as wildly overpowered as they were there. AA actually works, and a couple of engs with stingers can wreak havoc with the right strategy. I always hated trying to get the flags in BF2 when there was some freak up there with a 68-0 kill streak just relentlessly destroying everything that moved. Of course I'm a flag whore, so that might have something to do with it.

 

[Northern Lawn]

I upgraded my video card to a 560 Ti and now I get sound stutters at the beginning of the round and ten minutes later I get a hard freeze on my computer. Sometimes my keyboard won't after I press the reset button so I have to press to reset twice.

I also like being an engineer but it's lame when your stinger is completely ineffective due to the flares. I wonder if evading shoulder launched missiles is that easy in real life?

On the positive side they seem to be upgrading and patching daily besides the freezing issue they should also fix the chat box. There doesn't to seem to be a way to turn it on or off or expand it. Also at the end of the game you don't have the chance to type gg or whatever.

One more thing I can think about, the loading time between maps is the way too long, I swear the time between when I start the game up and actually able to play is close to 5 minutes and it's probably 2-3 minutes between each round.

Edit: I did think of one more thing I don't like about BF3 compared to BC2... the music is terrible. BC2 had very impressive, full orchestral score while BF3 sounds like it is playing on a $100 casio keyboard.

 

[flexy]

What ***es me off is the fact that i moved all to my SSD and now loading times are significantly reduced - BUT i still have to wait 30 seconds after game start for the round to start. (Which kinda negates the benefit from loading from SSD)

I assume the game simply "waits" til everyone is ready....in other words...if there are players whose game loads slow you just sit there waiting for everyone to be ready. Otherwise i highly recommend moving the game to a SSD, i didnt even need to reinstall. (Just needed some registry entries fixed). I might post a tip here about this.

 

[skipsneeky2]

The Ir smoke or whatever it is that's supposed to mask a tank in case of a lock on is useless...used it a few times and well unless the pilot is as blind as a dingbat its obvious the tank is still there...it doesn't save you and i find it as a lousy unlock.

If the pilot of the jet is eyeballing your tank for the come around to take you out he can clearly see you throwing up some smoke that doesn't mean you did a houdini and disappeared no one is that stupid you know....now smoke is good for infantry but for a beast of a tank its gonna be hard to still miss a rpg or a missle with that large of a object.

 

[Arkaign]

I upgraded my video card to a 560 Ti and now I get sound stutters at the beginning of the round and ten minutes later I get a hard freeze on my computer. Sometimes my keyboard won't after I press the reset button so I have to press to reset twice.

I also like being an engineer but it's lame when your stinger is completely ineffective due to the flares. I wonder if evading shoulder launched missiles is that easy in real life?

On the positive side they seem to be upgrading and patching daily besides the freezing issue they should also fix the chat box. There doesn't to seem to be a way to turn it on or off or expand it. Also at the end of the game you don't have the chance to type gg or whatever.

One more thing I can think about, the loading time between maps is the way too long, I swear the time between when I start the game up and actually able to play is close to 5 minutes and it's probably 2-3 minutes between each round.

Edit: I did think of one more thing I don't like about BF3 compared to BC2... the music is terrible. BC2 had very impressive, full orchestral score while BF3 sounds like it is playing on a $100 casio keyboard.

I wish I could help you with your technical problems.

As for the stinger, yeah if you're solo it's harder to score hits with them due to the flares. I have found, however, that if you are able to keep the target in sight for an extended period (high/central map locations are great for this), and fire the 2nd round absolutely immediately as soon as possible, the missile will usually hit before they can regen their flares. That's solo though, if you have a buddy with the stinger also, you can fire off about 5-6 seconds apart, or as soon as the flares go off the first time. Three engs w/stingers = dead aircraft almost every time lol.

 

[Arkaign]

The Ir smoke or whatever it is that's supposed to mask a tank in case of a lock on is useless...used it a few times and well unless the pilot is as blind as a dingbat its obvious the tank is still there...it doesn't save you and i find it as a lousy unlock.

If the pilot of the jet is eyeballing your tank for the come around to take you out he can clearly see you throwing up some smoke that doesn't mean you did a houdini and disappeared no one is that stupid you know....now smoke is good for infantry but for a beast of a tank its gonna be hard to still miss a rpg or a missle with that large of a object.

The smoke is better used against ground enemies than aircraft of course. It's a great way to breach a flag area, even if you end up losing the tank. Have a group of infantry approaching behind the tank, tank rushes towards flag, lets off smoke 30-50m from flag on approach, and then the infantry can get into position without being as exposed.

Much of the enjoyment or frustration has to do with the quality of teamplay, I make a point of following the best players on my squad at any given time and trying to establish a rhythm. I've gotten several props for being a great asset to tankers, I man the MG, and help spot things, and am fearless about repairing. In the midst of a tank vs. tank battle I'll often hop out and try to make my way as quickly as possible to the rear of the tank, and continually repair as fast and often as possible. Of course sometimes you get an idiot who will just leave you sitting there with your repair tool out like a target practice dummy, but most of the time they get the idea.