Anyone else disappointed with BF3?

[Destiny]

Regarding the stat padding repairing eod bot, I am adding a link to show exactly what I'm talking about. I had the pleasure of this clown and 4 of his mates in my team last night. So that was 5 players less in our team.

http://bf3stats.com/stats_ps3/GHOST_1_9_7_1

Note the amount of repair ribbons (2000+) compared to rounds played/kills and so on.

If you have the pleasure of playing against the clown do me a favour, stick ya blade in his neck and dip your ***** in his mouth and t bag.

WOW 40 Mantaince Medals = 400k points!! If I ever see these guys I'm going to knife them or or straff them from my jet!! :twisted:

 

[NTAC]

This is my first ever post. After playing for 3 hours tonight I am posting as I am so wound up at what I witnessed.
I am not exaggerating when I say at least 90% of games tonight we had 2 players sat in the base stat padding with the EOD bot. The worst case being (again no exaggeration) zero kills and 24,000 points. I dread to think what his final points including ribbons were.
My mate told me that earlier today one player went from rank 38 to 45 within an hour or so.
One idiot I saw doing this was rank 45 number 7 beneath rank. Am I right in assuming this indicates he had ranked the max 7 times.
This has got out of hand. Tonight is the first time I came across this but obviously it is only going to get worse.
I recorded these clowns on my iPhone and their names/scores. I guess there's no point contacting EA as I can't see them taking action.

What action should EA take? They aren't breaking any rules or cheating, they are just exploiting a game mechanic that EA didn't think about.

Its not something I woudl ever do, defeats the purpose of playing the game IMO, but if two douche bags want to sit there and waste their time doing something as mundane as that, then leave them alone. There's 61 other people to play with

Or you can have some fun... you can blow up the bot yourself and piss them off What are they going to do, complain that you aren't letting them level up like b1thces?

I don't know all the countermeasures used by aircraft but I would like to ask how in the holy hell are you supposed to shoot anything down with ground AA?

Really? If I get my hands on the AA vehicle then the map turns into a No Fly Zone for the enemy. I don't even bother with the missiles, I just use the guns on the AA Vehicles, it tears every aircraft to little bits with not many shots, and there's nothing they can do about it. Eventually they'll start coming for you on the ground, but the AA guns also work well against ground troops.

Find yourself a nice little spot where you are protected by hills on most sides, so infantry can't take easy rocket shots at you and then just scan the skies.

If you think taking down aircraft is difficult, then you are not experienced enough yet to do it well, but just keep practicing. If anything, I think aircraft is too easy to take down.

And if you can't grab the mobile AA, then just go to the stationary one and practice there, whenever a plane or chopper come too close you should be able to take them out without much problems.

I honestly hate vehicle gameplay in this game, DICE completely flipped the tables over BF2's spectacular vehicle combat. Flying the jets is absolute ****; the maps are all claustrophobic and overpacked with stingers and indestructible AA, not to mention there is ZERO joystick support.

Another situation where someone complains about a game without actually having all the info.

How is there ZERO joystick support when I simply just plug in my 360 controller and I can use it without any problems as if i was playing a console game. I basically use the 360 controller for flying.

 

[NTAC]

My g500 when i'm in a aa gun or a tank lmg the controls go all crazy i might be trying to pull it right and it jerks left do you experience this?

I love using base stationary weapons mainly and when the controls jerk it drives me crazy sometimes the controls move on their own too making accuracy awful .

Do you have a joystick plugged in?

I had to unbind my 360 joystick controls from walking to keep it from trying to take over while I'm using the mouse.

So I had the same symptoms you did, I'd go left and it would jerk back right, cause the 360 controller was fighting the mouse controls.

 

[leeland]

Really? If I get my hands on the AA vehicle then the map turns into a No Fly Zone for the enemy. I don't even bother with the missiles, I just use the guns on the AA Vehicles, it tears every aircraft to little bits with not many shots, and there's nothing they can do about it. Eventually they'll start coming for you on the ground, but the AA guns also work well against ground troops.

Find yourself a nice little spot where you are protected by hills on most sides, so infantry can't take easy rocket shots at you and then just scan the skies.

If you think taking down aircraft is difficult, then you are not experienced enough yet to do it well, but just keep practicing. If anything, I think aircraft is too easy to take down.

And if you can't grab the mobile AA, then just go to the stationary one and practice there, whenever a plane or chopper come too close you should be able to take them out without much problems.

I will agree I haven't played engineer or AA very much...so I haven't been in too many AA vehicles either...

The vehicle aspect is something I didn't consider and isn't really bound by the amount of time it takes to lock on so that is good...

As for a mobile or stationary AA do you know if the weapons advance as you get more experience? I mean the jets have counter measures to delay me locking on...as you level up to the AA weapons get more perks as well to counter their counter measures?

 

[NTAC]

I will agree I haven't played engineer or AA very much...so I haven't been in too many AA vehicles either...

The vehicle aspect is something I didn't consider and isn't really bound by the amount of time it takes to lock on so that is good...

As for a mobile or stationary AA do you know if the weapons advance as you get more experience? I mean the jets have counter measures to delay me locking on...as you level up to the AA weapons get more perks as well to counter their counter measures?

Oh yeah totally, you can level up anything (except for the stationary platforms). For example, here are the upgrades for the LAV-AD:

1. IR Smoke
2. Anti Air missle (you can fire 2 at a time without reload)
3. Belt speed upgrade
4. Zoom Optics
5. Proximity Scan (sensors detect and reveal enemy units)
6. Thermal Optics
7. Air Radar
8. Maintenance
9. Thermal Camo
10. Reactive Armor

You can find all this out yourself (assuming you are on PC), go to battlelog, click on stats for your guy, go to Vehicles, pick a vehicle and at the bottom it shows you all the possible upgrades and how close you are to getting them.

 

[goobernoodles]

Anyone else feel like thermal optics are almost TOO good? I've unlocked a few of them and damn... it's borderline like legal hacks. With that said, they pulled it off amazingly.

 

[NTAC]

Anyone else feel like thermal optics are almost TOO good? I've unlocked a few of them and damn... it's borderline like legal hacks. With that said, they pulled it off amazingly.

Yeah I know what you mean. They did do a fantastic job on them, they look great, and all that good stuff, but sheesh, I mean I can see people hiding in bushes and sh1t with no problem.

I remember people used to do this on purpose with hacks in some FPSs, now they just give it to you

Its kinda hard not to use them though when you do unlock them... best scope by far IMO.

Far too easy to hunt down snipers with these, which may or may not be a bad thing, depending on your preference of kits

 

[dingleberrydorkbutt]

This is my first ever post. After playing for 3 hours tonight I am posting as I am so wound up at what I witnessed.
I am not exaggerating when I say at least 90% of games tonight we had 2 players sat in the base stat padding with the EOD bot. The worst case being (again no exaggeration) zero kills and 24,000 points. I dread to think what his final points including ribbons were.
My mate told me that earlier today one player went from rank 38 to 45 within an hour or so.
One idiot I saw doing this was rank 45 number 7 beneath rank. Am I right in assuming this indicates he had ranked the max 7 times.
This has got out of hand. Tonight is the first time I came across this but obviously it is only going to get worse.
I recorded these clowns on my iPhone and their names/scores. I guess there's no point contacting EA as I can't see them taking action.
Personally I enjoy the challenge of earning points/ribbons/weapons legitimately. It makes the game and better than the BC2 system IMO.

Seems EA is doing something about this after all.

http://bf3blog.com/2011/11/hundreds-of-battlefield-3-players-banned-over-cheating/

 

[skipsneeky2]

This is my first ever post. After playing for 3 hours tonight I am posting as I am so wound up at what I witnessed.
I am not exaggerating when I say at least 90% of games tonight we had 2 players sat in the base stat padding with the EOD bot. The worst case being (again no exaggeration) zero kills and 24,000 points. I dread to think what his final points including ribbons were.
My mate told me that earlier today one player went from rank 38 to 45 within an hour or so.
One idiot I saw doing this was rank 45 number 7 beneath rank. Am I right in assuming this indicates he had ranked the max 7 times.
This has got out of hand. Tonight is the first time I came across this but obviously it is only going to get worse.
I recorded these clowns on my iPhone and their names/scores. I guess there's no point contacting EA as I can't see them taking action.
Personally I enjoy the challenge of earning points/ribbons/weapons legitimately. It makes the game and better than the BC2 system IMO.
On another note I wish/hope that the chat issue will be fixed very soon. Considering it's meant to be a team play game too. I heard that MOH has the same chat problem since release. I would not know myself as I ebayed that game after 2 hours of playing on day 1.

Sorry this is a long winded post but at least I have de-raged whilst posting lol.

Yup exact same exploit with the stat padding i mentioned and well throwing a grenade at them will kill of them and the eod bot then i can be a smartass and revive them and post in chat about how about that for stat padding...they run away from me after that and do it elsewhere

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Stat padding is nothing new. The term came from BF2 when people used the defib "pads" to kill and revive their teammates for tons of points.

 

[rgallant]

Anyone else feel like thermal optics are almost TOO good? I've unlocked a few of them and damn... it's borderline like legal hacks. With that said, they pulled it off amazingly.

I can't driver a tank without ir now,
there is a balance at x1 ir on the guns + delay to aim, other wise people would use the x 6-7 scopes and camp.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

I can't driver a tank without ir now,
there is a balance at x1 ir on the guns + delay to aim, other wise people would use the x 6-7 scopes and camp.

Leveling tanks/choppers is so hard for me. I just die after a few hits. It just makes me want to jump in a jet and rip people.. =(

 

[M0RPH]

I hope to god Dice is working on a new WW2 or Vietnam version of Battlefield. BF3 seems to be about how much high-tech overpowered crap you can unlock. Thermal sensors that let you see where everyone is? Yay, fun. When I finally do get this game I guess I can expect to just be a sitting duck to the ranked up players.

 

[Jtorrespr1]

I hope to god Dice is working on a new WW2 or Vietnam version of Battlefield. BF3 seems to be about how much high-tech overpowered crap you can unlock. Thermal sensors that let you see where everyone is? Yay, fun. When I finally do get this game I guess I can expect to just be a sitting duck to the ranked up players.

have to agree with you on this, I started playing and there are people who have no life and have made lvl 50 already and have unlocked a lot of weapons, all the rookie players like me and other rookies we get slaughtered.lol

 

[bwanaaa]

Yeah he did something lol he racked up a ton of points repairing a eod bot his fellow friend was shooting at .

saw two different guys doing this tonight on different servers. at first i couldn't figure it out. then i googled and found out that the behavior is called 'boosting' - a quick easy way to rack up points. But also a quick easy way to lose everything-DICE is suspending accounts for this behavior. Still it's hilarious. and of course makes me feel good about tk.

 

[s44]

I have used that SOFLAM and that is worthless at the moment...simply because I am just sitting there painting targets and no one shoots...

I wonder if it is beneficial to alert the team that you would be painting targets in hopes to getting engineer's to take notice...

Absolutely tell the team before you start SOFLAMming. It's sort of for the Javelin, but more for the MBT guided shell that has unlimited ammo. Without recon guys painting targets it's useless, so I usually spawn out with canisters instead.

 

[Veliko]

saw two different guys doing this tonight on different servers. at first i couldn't figure it out. then i googled and found out that the behavior is called 'boosting' - a quick easy way to rack up points. But also a quick easy way to lose everything-DICE is suspending accounts for this behavior. Still it's hilarious. and of course makes me feel good about tk.

Are you sure about that? I don't see why accounts would be suspended, they aren't doing anything particularly outrageous. It's something that the server admins should be kicking people off for if it's that much of an issue.

 

[gorcorps]

Are you sure about that? I don't see why accounts would be suspended, they aren't doing anything particularly outrageous. It's something that the server admins should be kicking people off for if it's that much of an issue.

From what I read they aren't banning the boosters, but they are resetting their stats.

 

[Arkaign]

From what I read they aren't banning the boosters, but they are resetting their stats.

Exactly, and with the detailed stat tracking it's easy to do. Get caught as a booster = lose all repair xp/awards, get nerfed back, but keep kills/etc.

 

[gorcorps]

Exactly, and with the detailed stat tracking it's easy to do. Get caught as a booster = lose all repair xp/awards, get nerfed back, but keep kills/etc.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the issue is. Seems pretty fair to me. Cheaters are still getting banned as they should, and boosters who are just taking in-game points and turning it into an assembly line type job are getting those stats taken away.

 

[Canbacon]

Absolutely tell the team before you start SOFLAMming. It's sort of for the Javelin, but more for the MBT guided shell that has unlimited ammo. Without recon guys painting targets it's useless, so I usually spawn out with canisters instead.

I love the 3rd seat for tanks, as it is an armoured SOFLAM. I usually just camp out in the 3rd seat as I love seeing helicopters get torn up by guided shells. Also, guided shells are not affected by IR flares. The electronic jammers can be a problem as they knock off the SOFLAM lock.

An advantage for the recon SOFLAM is that you can set it in an area where it has minimal glint and it will automatically target vehicles in the field of view. So make sure to set it up in high traffic areas for vehicles.

 

[Arsinek]

I've been looking forward to BF3 for ages, and even built a new rig for it. Played all but 2142 religiously, and now that BF3 is out, I don't really even want to play.

I'm totally disappointed with the game that feels like a mix of CoD with a touch of Battlefield thrown in. Rat-maze maps where players bunch up and do nothing but camp chokepoints for kills (screw the flags, kills are now king). Conquest maps with bunched flags. Terrible items/class setup (Recon gadgets suck, you get banned for using Support items like mortars, etc). Stupid gimmicky things like flashlights that burn with the brightness of a star from a mile away. Etc.

It just doesn't feel like Battlefield. It doesn't even feel like Bad Company. It feels like deathmatch, even with the team trappings.

Anyone else disappointed?

I think its a great game. Though the only other battlefield Ive played, which was only the demo, was BC2 which I thought sucked, the movement and lack of prone made me not want to play it.

I do think they need to add some more objective type game play to BF3. Maybe capture the flag or something. And somehow put a de-emphasis on kills. I got BF3 to get away from endless matches of team death match.

If you want non-death match game play, my advice is to play Rush. Also, playing with friends makes a big difference. You cant count on random people on the internet being team players.

 

[QuantumPion]

I hope to god Dice is working on a new WW2 or Vietnam version of Battlefield. BF3 seems to be about how much high-tech overpowered crap you can unlock. Thermal sensors that let you see where everyone is? Yay, fun. When I finally do get this game I guess I can expect to just be a sitting duck to the ranked up players.

Quit whining already. You think the game wasn't a meat grinder on day one and everyone magically had 10-1 k/d ratios? It's not like the unlock guns are any more powerful than the default ones, the only differences are tradeoffs like rate of fire for recoil.

And I'm so sick of hearing all the whining about the IRNV scope. In most situations I play much better without it. While it lets you acquire targets more quickly than you could without it, you lose aiming accuracy, speed, and sway. It's a trade off. You can spot enemies faster but it is harder to kill them. For every time I managed to pick someone off that I didn't see right away, I've probably died running into someone around the corner and not being able to aim fast enough, or died in a longer range shootout where I keep missing due to sway. Caspian is the only map full of trees and shrubs where it is really advantageous. Maybe Davamand Peak as well for the dark tunnel but even then it's not hard to see enemies running down a narrow corridor.

 

[reallyscrued]

Yes.

But I was one of the freaks that thought BC2 was one of the best shooters in years. It felt very raw compared to BF3 feels; BF3 feels very synthetic, it's hard to explain. BC2 felt more visceral, and I really miss destruction that's not a gimmick. In Metro, near flag A, if you shoot a grenade across the two standing buildings from window to window, no damage can be done to the structure. Really? That's such a step back.

Loading out is absolutely terrible. ...is it just me or are there no stats for guns anymore?

Colors and contrast is bonked. Don't know what else I can say about this. BC2 had some diversity in the colors, some maps were warm, some cold, some neutral. It had lots of flavors and it didn't get old for a long time, at least for me. I'm already sick of maps on BF3. Damn I miss the days the community could design their own maps. Think they'll ever be a game like that again?

I guess I really miss what BC2 brought to the table and am irritated they took away everything I liked about what set it apart from the CoD series. If I wasn't so addicted to the visuals of BF3, I'd still be playing BC2; that and If I could return the game, I would.

 

[Childs]

And I'm so sick of hearing all the whining about the IRNV scope. In most situations I play much better without it. While it lets you acquire targets more quickly than you could without it, you lose aiming accuracy, speed, and sway. It's a trade off. You can spot enemies faster but it is harder to kill them. For every time I managed to pick someone off that I didn't see right away, I've probably died running into someone around the corner and not being able to aim fast enough, or died in a longer range shootout where I keep missing due to sway. Caspian is the only map full of trees and shrubs where it is really advantageous. Maybe Davamand Peak as well for the dark tunnel but even then it's not hard to see enemies running down a narrow corridor.

I would say every 6 out of 10 deaths I get are from people using this scope. And its not 1v1, its mostly from someone sitting still scanning the area while I'm moving from point to point. At least thats what I gather from the killcam. I run around too much and do too much CQC to bother with it, but its turning into a crutch for a lot of players. There are very few downsides to it, as someone using an assault rifle or machine gun doesnt care about sway, speed, accuracy, etc, its about acquiring the target fast and unloading on them before they see you. I'm hoping the spec ops camo can somewhat reduce its effectiveness.