yeah, and coming from you, one can not help but chuckle at the weight behind such a charge.
Verbatim indeed. You're either brain dead or one of the most intellectually dishonest people on this board...and that is no mean feat!
Verbatim indeed. You're either brain dead or one of the most intellectually dishonest people on this board...and that is no mean feat!
Your continued denial in the face of hard facts is pathetic. Why can't you just admit that you were wrong? And why is this so damn hard for you?yeah, and coming from you, one can not help but chuckle at the weight behind such a charge.
Your continued denial in the face of hard facts is pathetic. Why can't you just admit that you were wrong? And why is this so damn hard for you?
I guess that's as close to an admission of your bubbleheaded horseshitery that we'll ever get. And, as pathetic as that admission was, I must admit that it was way more than I expected you were capable of.
This has been way better than ever imagined. Watching you face your own preposterous nonsense and have it bite you in the ass is extremely entertaining. One single, nonsensical word designed to twist you alt-right nutters' panties in a bunch in an otherwise completely factual post has had you guys squirming for the better part of a day. It's like you are angrily yelling at yourself.
Your continued denial in the face of hard facts is pathetic. Why can't you just admit that you were wrong? And why is this so damn hard for you?
I guess that's as close to an admission of your bubbleheaded horseshitery that we'll ever get. And, as pathetic as that admission was, I must admit that it was way more than I expected you were capable of.
Wut? Is that an alternative association you are spouting?
Here's a fact, my man: The ACA is the republican wet dream that the republicans always wanted and only hated because blackie was behind it.
Now, if only your betters can get around to actually doing real work and fixing the real problems within. Do you guys support these chuckleheads in hopes that they will do their jobs, or just sit around in their offices and bitch about the others calling them names?
You said Verbatim and them call me out for BS. OK Chucklehead, but your ignorance is hanging out.
I guess that's as close to an admission of your bubbleheaded horseshitery that we'll ever get. And, as pathetic as that admission was, I must admit that it was way more than I expected you were capable of.
Why do you guys persist in this?-snip-
Here's a fact, my man: The ACA is the republican wet dream that the republicans always wanted and only hated because blackie was behind it.
Why do you guys persist in this?
We went through this back when Obamacare was being debated. The few Repubs who supported it couldn't get enough of the other Repubs on board to even bring it to a vote. That's how unpopular it was among the Repubs then.
"Wet dream that the repubs always wanted"? Of course not, that's just being silly.
Fern
Why do you guys persist in this?
We went through this back when Obamacare was being debated. The few Repubs who supported it couldn't get enough of the other Repubs on board to even bring it to a vote. That's how unpopular it was among the Repubs then.
"Wet dream that the repubs always wanted"? Of course not, that's just being silly.
Fern
^ Kremlin Gremlin“If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.”
“If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.”
“Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”
(Barack Hussein Obama) Liberals have to lie to other liberals to get garbage like this accepted.
“If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.”
“If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.”
“Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”
(Barack Hussein Obama) Liberals have to lie to other liberals to get garbage like this accepted.
“If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.”
“If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.”
“Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”
(Barack Hussein Obama) Liberals have to lie to other liberals to get garbage like this accepted.
You apparently are too stupid to understand the difference between a campaign promise and outright lying. Did Obama attempt to do the things he said he would? The data says more often than not he at least attempted.
As the Atlanta Journal Constitution points out , the Trump administration has until May 22nd to decide whether they will continue to pursue the Obama administration's appeal to provide subsidies to insurers who participate in the federal exchanges.
Of course, any decision to remove those subsidies would likely result in yet another massive round of premium hikes and further withdrawals from the already crippled exchanges where an astounding number of counties across the country have already been cut to just 1 health insurance provider. And, as pointed out before, higher rates = lower participation = deterioration of risk pool = higher rates....and the cycle just repeats until it eventually collapses.So do nothing and just let obama care choke to death on it's already broken neck. Even the obama knew his signature "legacy" was a fraud. It was designed to fail.
Ironically, while the GOP health-care bill was criticized by many health-care industries, it contained provisions that would have helped insurers, including...a risk stabilization fund that could have been used to help buoy insurers.
"We expect [marketplace] health insurers will continue to flee the marketplaces in 2018 or raise premiums significantly as they will no longer enjoy the substantial risk stabilization fund proposed by the American Health Care Act, destabilizing and shrinking the marketplaces," Leerink Partners analyst Ana Gupte wrote in a research note.
As the Atlanta Journal Constitution points out , the Trump administration has until May 22nd to decide whether they will continue to pursue the Obama administration's appeal to provide subsidies to insurers who participate in the federal exchanges.
Of course, any decision to remove those subsidies would likely result in yet another massive round of premium hikes and further withdrawals from the already crippled exchanges where an astounding number of counties across the country have already been cut to just 1 health insurance provider. And, as pointed out before, higher rates = lower participation = deterioration of risk pool = higher rates....and the cycle just repeats until it eventually collapses.So do nothing and just let obama care choke to death on it's already broken neck. Even the obama knew his signature "legacy" was a fraud. It was designed to fail.
As the Atlanta Journal Constitution points out , the Trump administration has until May 22nd to decide whether they will continue to pursue the Obama administration's appeal to provide subsidies to insurers who participate in the federal exchanges.
Of course, any decision to remove those subsidies would likely result in yet another massive round of premium hikes and further withdrawals from the already crippled exchanges where an astounding number of counties across the country have already been cut to just 1 health insurance provider. And, as pointed out before, higher rates = lower participation = deterioration of risk pool = higher rates....and the cycle just repeats until it eventually collapses.So do nothing and just let obama care choke to death on it's already broken neck. Even the obama knew his signature "legacy" was a fraud. It was designed to fail.
Obamacare repeal talks break down in divided GOP
House Republicans’ latest last-ditch effort to revive a GOP Obamacare replacement faltered late Wednesday night after talks between conservatives and moderates broke down.
Senior members of the centrist Tuesday Group and far-right House Freedom Caucus have been trying to find a deal that would bring the two polar opposite flanks of the conference to "yes.” They met on Tuesday night, and had hoped to have another meeting Wednesday evening, but it was canceled amid sharp policy disagreements.
“There are lots of different people talking but I don’t know it has matured to the level of decisions being made,” said Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Greg Walden, indicating the conference is nowhere close to a deal.
A number of members in both groups had opposed the House bill but for very different reasons: conservatives don’t think the legislation repealed enough of the 2010 health care law while centrists worried too many people would lose health insurance.
After Speaker Paul Ryan pulled the bill last Friday, GOP leaders encouraged the two sides — which effectively tanked the bill together — to get in a room and work out their differences. Leadership, however, has stayed out of the talks.
“What I’m encouraging our members to do is figuring out what solutions get us to a bill that everybody can vote for and pass,” Ryan said during a Thursday press conference. "This is too big of an issue to not get right."
But while some sources said the groups came close to a deal on Wednesday, any progress was quickly reversed. Once it became clear that leadership would not be leading the discussions, some moderates backed out, suspicious of the motives of the Freedom Caucus.
Those members balked at conservatives wanting the same repeal of Obamacare regulations that centrists were leery of axing last week. And some centrists said the hard-liners just wanted to deflect blame for tanking the bill.
“The Tuesday Group will never meet with the Freedom Caucus. Capital N-E-V-E-R,” said Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), a Tuesday Group member furious with the conservative group. “It is not the role of ad hoc members to get together and suggest at all that we represent 237 members of the conference or the committees of jurisdiction. It’s just not going to happen and it shouldn’t happen.”
In fact, the Tuesday Group made a formal decision Wednesday night to not negotiate with the Freedom Caucus.
Other rank-and-file members who sit on the relevant panels privately steamed that leaders would allow lawmakers who were not on those committees to craft some kind of deal.
"We on Ways and Means and Energy and Commerce spent a lot of time on that legislation, and to all of a sudden have it delegated to other members who were not on the committee, who hadn’t dedicated years on the policies, was not good," said New York Republican Tom Reed, who sits on the tax-writing panel.
Still, some conservatives expressed optimism. Freedom Caucus member Scott DesJarlais (R-Tenn.) said, "There’s a lot of great discussion going on" and "cooler heads are prevailing."
Republican Study Committee Chairman Mark Walker, who has also been in the room for the negotiations, agreed there's been "progress” in resurrecting the failed bill. He pegged their odds of getting a replacement passed at "a little better than 50-50."
“I’m not at liberty to say what that may or may not be,” he said, but added that lawmakers would like to see a “conclusion” to the negotiations before or during the Easter recess.
my favorite meme so farhttp://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-repeal-divided-gop-house-effort-236693
NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS.
But you do have to feel at least a little bit sorry for the voters who actually thought these turds would get anything done on healthcare.