Anyone else get a Catleap?

[Dice144]

Ran across a forum post about these IPS panels over at Hard OCP. Skinny of it is that LG panels that are used in Apple Cinema displays are being used in some $250 Korea models. They come in 27" 2560x1440 goodness. Some of the early revisions of the panels were OCing to over 100Hz. The only come with DVI-D (the good ones). Which results in less input lag.

I ended up ordering one. I have another 23" IPS LG panel and this one blows it out of the water! No dead pixel and all for $332! Figure at this price even without a good (if any) warranty is worth it.

Not going to direct link but you can find them on Amazong and Ebay for under $400. Search 27: catleap (or crossover, few others)

Anyone else snag one of these babies?

 

[chimaxi83]

Huge thread over at overclock.net about these screens, if you're looking for more info. Monitors and Displays section, I'm on mobile so can't link.

Edit: here is the thread. ~3600 posts of info lol.

 

[Zanovar]

would like to hear how you get on with that monitor dice,i have the Hazro HZ27WC same screens?,not to sure.gf is debating wetheer to grab a pixel perfect one,lot cheaper than i payed for mine.

 

[Zargon]

big [H] thread as well


I would love to have one. just not in the budget this year

 

[Dice144]

I got the screen about a week ago now. No regrets. No dead pixels! Gaming with Skyrim never felt this cool. Only downside is my water cooled 6950 hates pushing this res (2560x1440) with all the eye candy on for Skyrim. Hell my GF even played Starcraft 2 on the screen and loves it. Sad that it is almost as big as my living room TV lol.

 

[kevinsbane]

I got a Catleap about a month ago; received a "2B" model, capable of running at 100hz+ framerates. Combined with a GTX 680, I can get 115 hz refresh rates.

It looks very good overall, got a tempered glass version. A few dead subpixels scatted around the screen, but no stuck pixels or subpixels. Ended up throwing the stand away and getting an Ergotron MX monitor arm for it.

 

[Gigglin]

I got mine about a month ago. It's a 3B model, so no overclocked refresh rate. However, the monitor has no dead or stuck pixels, and the colors are just brilliant. Get yours from dcsamsungmall on Ebay if you can. I got my package from Korea in 2 days with free shipping. If you want a better pivot stand, go with the Crossover led-p. It's a little extra. All these panels have the same screen, just different inputs/casing etc.

Zero issues so far, except the resolution is so damn high that I had to get a 7970 and overclock it to run BF3 & Skyrim with everything on ultra, and texture mods for Skyrim. I guess I will have to keep upgrading my gpu to the latest and greatest to play at 1440p. First world problems.

 

[Aeiou]

I've been hearing good things about it's quality.

but has anyone tried faster FPS games with it? because i haven't seen numbers for input lag so it kinda worries me.

 

[Zanovar]

Sheesh the prices on these things is shocking!,you lose warranty i guess still worth a punt though imo.do you feel lucky?

 

[Gigglin]

I've been hearing good things about it's quality.

but has anyone tried faster FPS games with it? because i haven't seen numbers for input lag so it kinda worries me.

You should head to the Catleap owners thread on Overclock for all the details. I am satisfied with 60Hz refresh, and haven't noticed any crazy input lag in BF3. Sorry haven't tried CoD or CS:Source. There is also a thread there about ordering a bunch of Catleap panels that have guaranteed overclockable refresh rates.

The stated input lag is 6ms by the way.

 

[Gloomy]

I picked up a Crossover 27Q LED-P (Adjustable Stand) in a pique after Tiger Direct shafted me. Best spur of the moment buy I've ever made.

 

[Gigglin]

I picked up a Crossover 27Q LED-P (Adjustable Stand) in a pique after Tiger Direct shafted me. Best spur of the moment buy I've ever made.

Nice! I love my catleap. I should be ready for a 30" 1600p IPS panel for $400 next year.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

How do these compare to Dell u2711? Are they comparable?

 

[Zanovar]

How do these compare to Dell u2711? Are they comparable?

same screens i think,minus the ag coating

 

[Gloomy]

How do these compare to Dell u2711? Are they comparable?

Mostly. The Dell should be better across the board, not counting LG's aggressive antiglare coating.

Problems I've noticed:

-single lazy pixel (doesn't do black and some colors) very close to the edge on the left corner. A monitor from Dell would be swiftly exchanged. This is not an option with these monitors.

-slow to boot from cold. About seven seconds longer than what I am accustomed to. Not sure this is common of large panels.

-very slight uniformity issues noticeable on a pure white/black screen.

I'm still very happy with the purchase. I can't say this enough.

 

[Gigglin]

Mostly. The Dell should be better across the board, not counting LG's aggressive antiglare coating.

Problems I've noticed:

-single lazy pixel (doesn't do black and some colors) very close to the edge on the left corner. A monitor from Dell would be swiftly exchanged. This is not an option with these monitors.

-slow to boot from cold. About seven seconds longer than what I am accustomed to. Not sure this is common of large panels.

-very slight uniformity issues noticeable on a pure white/black screen.

I'm still very happy with the purchase. I can't say this enough.

Just to add a couple things:

The base models only have 1 input (dual dvi-d).

The cost factor: $350 shipped for Catleap vs ~ $800 for U2711.

Catleap uses LED backlight vs CCFL for Dell U 2711.

 

[blastingcap]

Tempting but most of these do not have on-screen display making them useless for photo editing since you can't calibrate the monitor. You can just raise and lower the brightness and maybe the contrast, and that's it. Ugh. They charge you $150 extra for the versions with OSD and even then I'm not sure if they are in English. Moreover, these are imperfect quality panels that didn't make the cut for regular Apple CinemaDisplays and shipping it back for dead pixel reasons costs $100+ (to Korea). If you're just getting the cheapest one for gaming though and don't mind the risk of dead pixels, it seems like a good value, just not for my purposes which include photo-editing.

 

[Jman13]

I just can't do a glossy monitor...the reflections drive me batty.

 

[Zanovar]

Tempting but most of these do not have on-screen display making them useless for photo editing since you can't calibrate the monitor. You can just raise and lower the brightness and maybe the contrast, and that's it. Ugh. They charge you $150 extra for the versions with OSD and even then I'm not sure if they are in English. Moreover, these are imperfect quality panels that didn't make the cut for regular Apple CinemaDisplays and shipping it back for dead pixel reasons costs $100+ (to Korea). If you're just getting the cheapest one for gaming though and don't mind the risk of dead pixels, it seems like a good value, just not for my purposes which include photo-editing.

Moreover, these are imperfect quality panels that didn't make the cut for regular Apple CinemaDisplays not having a go at you but more info on this?

 

[Gloomy]

Tempting but most of these do not have on-screen display making them useless for photo editing since you can't calibrate the monitor. You can just raise and lower the brightness and maybe the contrast, and that's it. Ugh. They charge you $150 extra for the versions with OSD and even then I'm not sure if they are in English. Moreover, these are imperfect quality panels that didn't make the cut for regular Apple CinemaDisplays and shipping it back for dead pixel reasons costs $100+ (to Korea). If you're just getting the cheapest one for gaming though and don't mind the risk of dead pixels, it seems like a good value, just not for my purposes which include photo-editing.

You can calibrate it via the graphics card.

Don't forget general use (internet, reading). I'm usually running a 1280x1440 browser window and chat, video (720p) or anything really on the side. It's also great for reading comic books:

I'm actually disappointed in the internet. All of it seems to be optimized for 1280 width. For shame.

Gaming I don't notice much different from a regular 27" monitor, actually. The image is sharper naturally but I'm playing from across the room (something the monitor size allows me to do, it's quite expansive).

Moreover, these are imperfect quality panels that didn't make the cut for regular Apple CinemaDisplays not having a go at you but more info on this?

These panels are rated A- so they allow a bit more deviation in all metrics when compared to A+.

 

[Gigglin]

That's true. These are the imperfect panels that could have 1-5 dead/stuck pixels or backlight bleeding that Apple or other A+ companies rejected. There is also no OSD, and you need a calibration tool if you want to tinker with the settings.

However, you are paying half the price for this panel and if you are looking for an IPS display with gaming as the primary purpose - not competitive gaming at 120Hz - it is more than worth it with its 6ms input lag.

Same display as Apple 27" Cinema with minor imperfections. Instead of AAA display, you get AA or A- display. I'll take 3 of these imperfect displays for the price of 1 Apple display.

Also, if you look at the other threads on Hardforum and OC forums, almost everyone is happy with these Korean displays.

 

[Zanovar]

You can calibrate it via the graphics card.

Don't forget general use (internet, reading). I'm usually running a 1280x1440 browser window and chat, video (720p) or anything really on the side. It's also great for reading comic books:

I'm actually disappointed in the internet. All of it seems to be optimized for 1280 width. For shame.

Gaming I don't notice much different from a regular 27" monitor, actually. The image is sharper naturally but I'm playing from across the room (something the monitor size allows me to do, it's quite expansive).



These panels are rated A- so they allow a bit more deviation in all metrics when compared to A+.

sheesh,as i said earlier then,do you feel lucky?

 

[blastingcap]

You can calibrate it via the graphics card.

Don't forget general use (internet, reading). I'm usually running a 1280x1440 browser window and chat, video (720p) or anything really on the side. It's also great for reading comic books:

I'm actually disappointed in the internet. All of it seems to be optimized for 1280 width. For shame.

Gaming I don't notice much difference than with a regular 27" monitor, actually. The image is sharper naturally but I'm playing from across the room (something the monitor size allows me to do, it's quite expansive).

These panels are rated A- so they allow a bit more deviation in all metrics when compared to A+.

I hadn't thought of that before. I tried X-Rite's software calibration once and gave up, but you are talking about CCC or something? I am not at my regular PC right now so I can't check, but if there's a way to save a color preset (so that if you run a program that changes it, you can change it back) that'd be awesome.

I have 5760x1080 so 2560x1440 is unimpressive for websurfing, but I am thinking about using a 1440p and hooking it up to a HTPC for photo editing and movies.

Moreover, these are imperfect quality panels that didn't make the cut for regular Apple CinemaDisplays not having a go at you but more info on this?

First of all, ask the OP if you want affirmation that it's using the LG LM270WQ1. Secondly, you're smoking crack if you think they would sell 100% perfect panels that would otherwise go into far more profitable monitors like the Apple CinemaDisplays. These are the imperfect models that normally get sold in developing countries or at least non-U.S. markets. This kind of stuff happens all the time. Like with Taiyo Yuden DVD-Rs, you could get "deals" on buying the lesser-quality stuff that was intended for Mexico, and less scrupulous sellers would sell those lesser-quality blanks as if they were U.S.-quality blanks.

I mean for crying out loud look at where you are, the VCG forum where we all know about binning, right? It happens in many industries. That said, the best of these off-brand monitors is probably on par with official Apple monitors (but without a warranty and probably without OSD and a full set of outputs), much in the way that if you buy a cut-down GPU it has a chance of clocking up just as high as the uncut GPU.

 

[Zanovar]

I hadn't thought of that before. I tried X-Rite's software calibration once and gave up, but you are talking about CCC or something? I am not at my regular PC right now so I can't check, but if there's a way to save a color preset (so that if you run a program that changes it, you can change it back) that'd be awesome.

I have 5760x1080 so 2560x1440 is unimpressive for websurfing, but I am thinking about using a 1440p and hooking it up to a HTPC for photo editing and movies.



First of all, ask the OP if you want affirmation that it's using the LG LM270WQ1. Secondly, you're smoking crack if you think they would sell 100% perfect panels that would otherwise go into far more profitable monitors like the Apple CinemaDisplays. These are the imperfect models that normally get sold in developing countries or at least non-U.S. markets. This kind of stuff happens all the time. Like with Taiyo Yuden DVD-Rs, you could get "deals" on buying the lesser-quality stuff that was intended for Mexico, and less scrupulous sellers would sell those lesser-quality blanks as if they were U.S.-quality blanks.

I mean for crying out loud look at where you are, the VCG forum where we all know about binning, right? It happens in many industries.

give me some proof moron,thats all is asked

 

[blastingcap]

give me some proof moron,thats all is asked

Are you asking for a mod flag?