anyone else hate apple?

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: BirdDad
This guy I worked with was always bragging about how great macintosh is and how much better it was than a pc.
So he brings his computer to work and says watch this.It crashes on startup,"Wait a minute" he says.Three boots later he has it up.What does he do with it?He runs virtual pc.
All apple users I have ever seen have been this way.
I have an ipod and it locks up.

flamebait much?

it's a shame haters have to make up lies to make themselves feel better about something that is completely meaningless in the long run.

I dare anyone to use OSX for at least a full day and come back and tell me it's trash. Apple is really moving up, especially with the intel line of products.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: BirdDad
This guy I worked with was always bragging about how great macintosh is and how much better it was than a pc.
So he brings his computer to work and says watch this.It crashes on startup,"Wait a minute" he says.Three boots later he has it up.What does he do with it?He runs virtual pc.
All apple users I have ever seen have been this way.
I have an ipod and it locks up.

flamebait much?

it's a shame haters have to make up lies to make themselves feel better about something that is completely meaningless in the long run.

I dare anyone to use OSX for at least a full day and come back and tell me it's trash. Apple is really moving up, especially with the intel line of products.

if i could play bf2 on my powerbook i wouldn't have a pc anymore. and i've been a pc user since the beginning of time and a mac user since earlier this year.

 

[kevinthenerd]

If software selection didn't enter into the mix, I'd pick Mac OSX over Windows XP, but it does, and that's why I use XP. I like to run odd programs every now and then, and it's a pain to have to find OSX programs to do everything.

The next machine I'm building will be running MS-DOS. I'm going to use it to control stepper motors in a rapid prototyping machine I'm building.

 

[tweakmm]

Apple is a stellar company, it's funny to see the same people who hate Apple hate everything else trendy.

"Oh this is cool, but nobody who is cool thinks I'm cool so me and my uncool friends will pretend to be cool by hating on what's really cool."

Seriously get over yourself.

I have both PCs and Macs so don't even try to stick fanboism on me.

I LOVE MY IPOD AND POWERBOOK!!!!
BRING IS BITCHES!

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't hate Apple.

I hate Apple fanbois.

That's exactly what I was going to say. Fanbois in general tick the piss outta me.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Pikachu
Typical Apple consumer...

:laugh: Text :laugh:

 

[BirdDad]

fisher it's not lies,he really did have to boot 3 times.this after a speech about how macs never crash

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: BirdDad
fisher it's not lies,he really did have to boot 3 times.this after a speech about how macs never crash

yeah okay. everyone knows someone that had something happen to them that supports their weak flaming hate.

 

[aswedc]

I hated Apple before X. Mac OS Classic was absolutely horrible. I'd rather use Windows 3.1. Now 10.4 is so much better than XP and Vista...

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: BirdDad
This guy I worked with was always bragging about how great macintosh is and how much better it was than a pc.
So he brings his computer to work and says watch this.It crashes on startup,"Wait a minute" he says.Three boots later he has it up.What does he do with it?He runs virtual pc.
All apple users I have ever seen have been this way.
I have an ipod and it locks up.

flamebait much?

it's a shame haters have to make up lies to make themselves feel better about something that is completely meaningless in the long run.

I dare anyone to use OSX for at least a full day and come back and tell me it's trash. Apple is really moving up, especially with the intel line of products.

<--- used it for years.

it's trash. a windows environment isn't meant to look pretty and swoon you with a rainbow ticker telling you your computer is at work. it's pure business, and that's the way i want it.

 

[NaOH]

I like PCs because I am able to build them, learn how they tick, etc. Macs are for people who want a computer for recreational use (web surfing, some movie and picture editing). Pick what you want, but don't believe the crap that macs don't crash or get viruses. If people actually made as many viruses for macs as they do PCs, your ass would have caught one if you were not able to stay away from them using a PC.


I don't have anything against apple, but it is the apple users who try and rub it in your face like they have such a powerful computer, like they actually know a thing about computers. Yet, it can hardly do half the things I can do on my PC. Aesthetics, check. Software.....

BTW, I'm not an apple hater. I love the 5G ipod. I switched from an iRiver H320 to it.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: BirdDad
This guy I worked with was always bragging about how great macintosh is and how much better it was than a pc.
So he brings his computer to work and says watch this.It crashes on startup,"Wait a minute" he says.Three boots later he has it up.What does he do with it?He runs virtual pc.
All apple users I have ever seen have been this way.
I have an ipod and it locks up.

flamebait much?

it's a shame haters have to make up lies to make themselves feel better about something that is completely meaningless in the long run.

I dare anyone to use OSX for at least a full day and come back and tell me it's trash. Apple is really moving up, especially with the intel line of products.

<--- used it for years.

it's trash. a windows environment isn't meant to look pretty and swoon you with a rainbow ticker telling you your computer is at work. it's pure business, and that's the way i want it.

You want to talk about business and OSes, let's just look at the directory structures of each.

What I think a lot of people don't realise is that under that graphically enhanced user interface lies a UNIX OS providing such power that those underpinings providel

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: BirdDad
This guy I worked with was always bragging about how great macintosh is and how much better it was than a pc.
So he brings his computer to work and says watch this.It crashes on startup,"Wait a minute" he says.Three boots later he has it up.What does he do with it?He runs virtual pc.
All apple users I have ever seen have been this way.
I have an ipod and it locks up.

flamebait much?

it's a shame haters have to make up lies to make themselves feel better about something that is completely meaningless in the long run.

I dare anyone to use OSX for at least a full day and come back and tell me it's trash. Apple is really moving up, especially with the intel line of products.

<--- used it for years.

it's trash. a windows environment isn't meant to look pretty and swoon you with a rainbow ticker telling you your computer is at work. it's pure business, and that's the way i want it.

You want to talk about business and OSes, let's just look at the directory structures of each.

What I think a lot of people don't realise is that under that graphically enhanced user interface lies a UNIX OS providing such power that those underpinings providel

how many people will take advantage of a unix-based OS? only power-users, who are a very small group.

 

[episodic]

I'd really like a mini myself. . .

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
I like PCs because I am able to build them, learn how they tick, etc. Macs are for people who want a computer for recreational use (web surfing, some movie and picture editing).

i still like building pcs, i like to tinker, i just prefer OS X as an OS. i don't believe that macs are for recreational use at all, because i can do anything (outside of gaming) on my powerbook that i can do on my pc.

Pick what you want, but don't believe the crap that macs don't crash or get viruses. If people actually made as many viruses for macs as they do PCs, your ass would have caught one if you were not able to stay away from them using a PC.

well the whole point is that there aren't that many viruses for a mac. can it get a virus? sure, but there would have to be viruses for the mac to get them. as for crashing, i've had a lot less problems with crashes on the mac. does it happen? sure, twice since i've owned it i've had to force firefox to quit. does my whole computer lock up? no, not at all. worst i get is the beach ball until i quit the offending application. it's amusing but the whole "macs can't get viruses" ad campaign could work against apple, because in the past they really haven't said anything about it. but lately they have, and all that's going to do is draw attention from the type of creep that would create a virus. doh.

I don't have anything against apple, but it is the apple users who try and rub it in your face like they have such a powerful computer, like they actually know a thing about computers. Yet, it can hardly do half the things I can do on my PC. Aesthetics, check. Software.....

what can't i do with my powerbook that you can with your pc? from the look of it you are the one rubbing it in my face, not the other way around. the biggest thing is the amount of free software, i guess because it's a smaller market? i've found mostly everything i need, but it's not as simple as finding free software for the pc. the biggest thing is a graphics editor. gimp can run in os x but it's not very pretty (runs under x11, i just didn't care for it). as for fanbois, with mac you have, well, mac fanbois. with windows you have windows fanbois, linux fanbois, ati fanbois, nvidia fanbois, intel fanbois, amd fanbois, shall i go on? even power supply companies are getting fanbois these days, sheesh.

BTW, I'm not an apple hater. I love the 5G ipod. I switched from an iRiver H320 to it.

i love my ipod too. i actually had it hooked up to my pc for awhile but itunes works more fluidly (for me) in os x than xp.

-----

use what you want, i certainly wouldn't try and push a mac on anyone. for me the OS is just great, it really works well and i feel more comfortable in it, and i've been using windows since 3.1 (i've been using computers longer than that, but this is about windows, not various flavors of DOS). unfortunately because of the rabid fanbois macs have gotten a bad stigma, and that goes for fanbois on both sides of the coin. unfortunately most people that hate it have never given it a real try, and that's too bad, they might just like it.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: BirdDad
This guy I worked with was always bragging about how great macintosh is and how much better it was than a pc.
So he brings his computer to work and says watch this.It crashes on startup,"Wait a minute" he says.Three boots later he has it up.What does he do with it?He runs virtual pc.
All apple users I have ever seen have been this way.
I have an ipod and it locks up.

flamebait much?

it's a shame haters have to make up lies to make themselves feel better about something that is completely meaningless in the long run.

I dare anyone to use OSX for at least a full day and come back and tell me it's trash. Apple is really moving up, especially with the intel line of products.

<--- used it for years.

it's trash. a windows environment isn't meant to look pretty and swoon you with a rainbow ticker telling you your computer is at work. it's pure business, and that's the way i want it.

You want to talk about business and OSes, let's just look at the directory structures of each.

What I think a lot of people don't realise is that under that graphically enhanced user interface lies a UNIX OS providing such power that those underpinings providel

how many people will take advantage of a unix-based OS? only power-users, who are a very small group.

the more you post the more i seriously doubt you've used OS X for years.

 

[NaOH]

well, I don't go and tout that I think my PC is better than macs. It's the mac users I meet that actually say that to me. That was my point.

You are right that there aren't a lot of free software. I use a lot of those such as DVD rebuilder, and other misc video tools. Hardware wise, it isn't what I would want either. So use what you like, I certaintly didn't stick with the iRiver even though it's one of those "Totally More Awsomez ThAn iPod!" devices.

Yeah, there is a fanboy for everything. Makes me sick to see apple commercials and friends who verbally tout their shiny white notebook as the end all to computers though due to the fact that it is invulnerable to viruses and crashes (my professor just pointed out the obvious fact that there aren't many viruses to them). I have yet to see a PC user do that (in real that anyways).

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
well, I don't go and tout that I think my PC is better than macs. It's the mac users I meet that actually say that to me. That was my point.

You are right that there aren't a lot of free software. I use a lot of those such as DVD rebuilder, and other misc video tools. Hardware wise, it isn't what I would want either. So use what you like, I certaintly didn't stick with the iRiver even though it's one of those "Totally More Awsomez ThAn iPod!" devices.

Yeah, there is a fanboy for everything. Makes me sick to see apple commercials and friends who verbally tout their shiny white notebook as the end all to computers though due to the fact that it is invulnerable to viruses and crashes (my professor just pointed out the obvious fact that there aren't many viruses to them). I have yet to see a PC user do that (in real that anyways).

oh c'mon those apple commercials are hilarious. even my dad laughed and he hates apple.

anyone who thinks/says a mac is invulnerable to crashes or viruses is just lying to themselves or trying to justify a purchase they made to look cool. if it was truely that perfect you'd have more converts.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: BirdDad
This guy I worked with was always bragging about how great macintosh is and how much better it was than a pc.
So he brings his computer to work and says watch this.It crashes on startup,"Wait a minute" he says.Three boots later he has it up.What does he do with it?He runs virtual pc.
All apple users I have ever seen have been this way.
I have an ipod and it locks up.

flamebait much?

it's a shame haters have to make up lies to make themselves feel better about something that is completely meaningless in the long run.

I dare anyone to use OSX for at least a full day and come back and tell me it's trash. Apple is really moving up, especially with the intel line of products.

<--- used it for years.

it's trash. a windows environment isn't meant to look pretty and swoon you with a rainbow ticker telling you your computer is at work. it's pure business, and that's the way i want it.

You want to talk about business and OSes, let's just look at the directory structures of each.

What I think a lot of people don't realise is that under that graphically enhanced user interface lies a UNIX OS providing such power that those underpinings providel

how many people will take advantage of a unix-based OS? only power-users, who are a very small group.

the more you post the more i seriously doubt you've used OS X for years.

my dad has a powermac G3 350mhz, 40gig hdd, 768mb ram.
my aunt also has a 1.4ghz G4 iMac, which i use often when i'm at her house.

i've used OSX on both of these computers extensively. firefox crashes frequently(and randomly), and web browsing is often painfully slow.

now you may say, "well, those computers are simply underpowered." i'm pretty sure my laptop - PII 300mhz, 128mb PC100, integrated video on XP, could outrun my dad's G3 in general usage.

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
well, I don't go and tout that I think my PC is better than macs. It's the mac users I meet that actually say that to me. That was my point.

You are right that there aren't a lot of free software. I use a lot of those such as DVD rebuilder, and other misc video tools. Hardware wise, it isn't what I would want either. So use what you like, I certaintly didn't stick with the iRiver even though it's one of those "Totally More Awsomez ThAn iPod!" devices.

Yeah, there is a fanboy for everything. Makes me sick to see apple commercials and friends who verbally tout their shiny white notebook as the end all to computers though due to the fact that it is invulnerable to viruses and crashes (my professor just pointed out the obvious fact that there aren't many viruses to them). I have yet to see a PC user do that (in real that anyways).

oh c'mon those apple commercials are hilarious. even my dad laughed and he hates apple.

anyone who thinks/says a mac is invulnerable to crashes or viruses is just lying to themselves or trying to justify a purchase they made to look cool. if it was truely that perfect you'd have more converts.

Like me, so white and shiny

 

[neutralizer]

Originally posted by: AMDUALY

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
well, I don't go and tout that I think my PC is better than macs. It's the mac users I meet that actually say that to me. That was my point.

You are right that there aren't a lot of free software. I use a lot of those such as DVD rebuilder, and other misc video tools. Hardware wise, it isn't what I would want either. So use what you like, I certaintly didn't stick with the iRiver even though it's one of those "Totally More Awsomez ThAn iPod!" devices.

Yeah, there is a fanboy for everything. Makes me sick to see apple commercials and friends who verbally tout their shiny white notebook as the end all to computers though due to the fact that it is invulnerable to viruses and crashes (my professor just pointed out the obvious fact that there aren't many viruses to them). I have yet to see a PC user do that (in real that anyways).

oh c'mon those apple commercials are hilarious. even my dad laughed and he hates apple.

anyone who thinks/says a mac is invulnerable to crashes or viruses is just lying to themselves or trying to justify a purchase they made to look cool. if it was truely that perfect you'd have more converts.

Like me, so white and shiny

Is it turning yellow yet?

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: BirdDad
This guy I worked with was always bragging about how great macintosh is and how much better it was than a pc.
So he brings his computer to work and says watch this.It crashes on startup,"Wait a minute" he says.Three boots later he has it up.What does he do with it?He runs virtual pc.
All apple users I have ever seen have been this way.
I have an ipod and it locks up.

flamebait much?

it's a shame haters have to make up lies to make themselves feel better about something that is completely meaningless in the long run.

I dare anyone to use OSX for at least a full day and come back and tell me it's trash. Apple is really moving up, especially with the intel line of products.

<--- used it for years.

it's trash. a windows environment isn't meant to look pretty and swoon you with a rainbow ticker telling you your computer is at work. it's pure business, and that's the way i want it.

You want to talk about business and OSes, let's just look at the directory structures of each.

What I think a lot of people don't realise is that under that graphically enhanced user interface lies a UNIX OS providing such power that those underpinings providel

how many people will take advantage of a unix-based OS? only power-users, who are a very small group.

the more you post the more i seriously doubt you've used OS X for years.

my dad has a powermac G3 350mhz, 40gig hdd, 768mb ram.
my aunt also has a 1.4ghz G4 iMac, which i use often when i'm at her house.

i've used OSX on both of these computers extensively. firefox crashes frequently(and randomly), and web browsing is often painfully slow.

now you may say, "well, those computers are simply underpowered." i'm pretty sure my laptop - PII 300mhz, 128mb PC100, integrated video on XP, could outrun my dad's G3 in general usage.

your computers have other problems then. i don't know the minimum requirements for os x so i can't comment on the g3 being underpowered (altho it certainly sounds like it shouldn't be running os x). the g4 ibook should have no issues at all. there is no reason for firefox to crash frequently or for web browsing to be painfully slow. web browsing on my g4 powerbook is just as snappy as on my amd 64 3700+ and firefox crashes no more or less. the few times it has crashed it was attributed to a faulty plugin (mostly flash).

i seriously doubt your p2 300 mhz 128mb pc100 laptop running xp is going to be outrunning anything. i could barely stand xp on a p3 with 512mb of ram.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: neutralizer

Originally posted by: AMDUALY

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: AMDUALY
well, I don't go and tout that I think my PC is better than macs. It's the mac users I meet that actually say that to me. That was my point.

You are right that there aren't a lot of free software. I use a lot of those such as DVD rebuilder, and other misc video tools. Hardware wise, it isn't what I would want either. So use what you like, I certaintly didn't stick with the iRiver even though it's one of those "Totally More Awsomez ThAn iPod!" devices.

Yeah, there is a fanboy for everything. Makes me sick to see apple commercials and friends who verbally tout their shiny white notebook as the end all to computers though due to the fact that it is invulnerable to viruses and crashes (my professor just pointed out the obvious fact that there aren't many viruses to them). I have yet to see a PC user do that (in real that anyways).

oh c'mon those apple commercials are hilarious. even my dad laughed and he hates apple.

anyone who thinks/says a mac is invulnerable to crashes or viruses is just lying to themselves or trying to justify a purchase they made to look cool. if it was truely that perfect you'd have more converts.

Like me, so white and shiny

Is it turning yellow yet?

i believe he's referring to his ipod, not the lovely white macbook. i love my powerbook, but i wouldn't touch a macbook/pro right now, too many issues.

 

[Baked]

I have a video ipod and have been using macs for more than a decade as my work station at work. Never had any problem w/ them really. I wanna get a macbook for personal use, but I already have a PC at home.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: fisher

your computers have other problems then. i don't know the minimum requirements for os x so i can't comment on the g3 being underpowered (altho it certainly sounds like it shouldn't be running os x). the g4 ibook should have no issues at all. there is no reason for firefox to crash frequently or for web browsing to be painfully slow. web browsing on my g4 powerbook is just as snappy as on my amd 64 3700+ and firefox crashes no more or less. the few times it has crashed it was attributed to a faulty plugin (mostly flash).

i seriously doubt your p2 300 mhz 128mb pc100 laptop running xp is going to be outrunning anything. i could barely stand xp on a p3 with 512mb of ram.

1) these computers are just fine, after all, macs can't get any of the 1.5 billion viruses

2) minimum specs for OSX: G3/4/5 CPU, 256mb ram, 3gig free hdd space

i'm not saying my PII 300 is gonna beat a conroe X6800, i'm saying that i'm fairly confident that it would outperform my dad's similarly specced G3 that has more ram and is running OSX.