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Red Storm

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I'd question how much smaller they could make it by leaving off the capacitive keys. Theres always going to be some top/bottom bezel regardless of whether theres capacitive buttons or not. May as well let that bottom bezel have some use rather than being dead space.

Well the G2 has shown us that slim bezels are perfectly doable.
 

lothar

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The phone is quite obviously not for people that want a smaller phone, its a weird thing to criticize it for. There doesn't seem an excessive amount of wasted space on the phone. It seems a perfectly acceptable size for a phone with a 5 1/2 inch screen.

Also RE the buttons you can turn off the capacitive ones and just use on screen ones. That seems the perfect solution, if there were just on screen ones other people (like me) would be bitching about that. As the bottom bezel doesnt look that big even with the option of the capacitive buttons, again, I see this as a non issue.
If I turn off those capacitive buttons, does the soft buttons appear in the same spot as where the capacitive buttons were? Or does it eat more of my screen real estate while still having my non-functional capacitive buttons at the bottom taking space?
Their method is far from being a perfect solution...
I'd question how much smaller they could make it by leaving off the capacitive keys. Theres always going to be some top/bottom bezel regardless of whether theres capacitive buttons or not. May as well let that bottom bezel have some use rather than being dead space.
Those capacitive buttons are essentially dead space to me if I were to get this phone because that would be one of the first things that I would disable.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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If I turn off those capacitive buttons, does the soft buttons appear in the same spot as where the capacitive buttons were? Or does it eat more of my screen real estate while still having my non-functional capacitive buttons at the bottom taking space?
Their method is far from being a perfect solution...

Those capacitive buttons are essentially dead space to me if I were to get this phone because that would be one of the first things that I would disable.

Even if they get rid of the buttons you are still going to have bezel. You might save a couple of MMs but its going to be a big phone anyway.

So you either have some dead space for everyone or they make that space useable for a lot of their customers.
 

Red Storm

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Its hard to see in this comparison but the difference in bottom bezel doesnt look massive.

Well no it's not massive, but the difference is there. We're talking about phone bezels here, they are all technically "small", but every little bit they can shrink it makes a noticeable difference. One thing I didn't like about the G2 was that the bezels were uneven (top and bottom). It does look like the One+ has evenly sized bezels, and I like that.
 

gorcorps

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If I turn off those capacitive buttons, does the soft buttons appear in the same spot as where the capacitive buttons were? Or does it eat more of my screen real estate while still having my non-functional capacitive buttons at the bottom taking space?
Their method is far from being a perfect solution...

Those capacitive buttons are essentially dead space to me if I were to get this phone because that would be one of the first things that I would disable.

Of course it's not a perfect solution. There's NO way to make a phone that's exactly what everybody on the planet wants. A 5.5" screen is too big for me, and you don't want capacitive buttons. That's fine... they have to start somewhere and this is their first phone. Looks excellent for the price, but obviously it's not for everyone. The size is the only factor for me, and I may even be able to learn to love it like other phablet users, but I'm pretty set on a 5" screen limit.
 

s44

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I think OnePlus went 5.5" because the people considering them who want a 5"/130g non-phablet already bought a Nexus 5.
 

Red Storm

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I think OnePlus went 5.5" because the people considering them who want a 5"/130g non-phablet already bought a Nexus 5.

That's a good point, hadn't thought of that. My only gripe with Note sized devices is that when you get that big, I start factoring in the missing stylus. I can live without it, but having it is very nice. Though with the One+ the much lower price seals the deal.
 

kpkp

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My speculative guess is that they went with the 5.5" because Oppo did. Now they use same suppliers they probably don't even have separate orders for the 2 phones. This way they can get better prices. Similar with other components.

Another reason is in my opinion... They are focused on the Chinese/Asian market, where big is better.
 

WelshBloke

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My speculative guess is that they went with the 5.5" because Oppo did. Now they use same suppliers they probably don't even have separate orders for the 2 phones. This way they can get better prices. Similar with other components.

This.

 

lothar

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Of course it's not a perfect solution. There's NO way to make a phone that's exactly what everybody on the planet wants. A 5.5" screen is too big for me, and you don't want capacitive buttons. That's fine... they have to start somewhere and this is their first phone. Looks excellent for the price, but obviously it's not for everyone. The size is the only factor for me, and I may even be able to learn to love it like other phablet users, but I'm pretty set on a 5" screen limit.
Which is why their "Never Settle" marketing campaign is even more ridiculous.

The uncertainty in it *fully* supporting all T-Mobile bands, the phone's size(I don't need a freaking phablet), the wasted capacitive buttons, and the lack of wireless charging are the main issues I have with this phone. Yes, in that exact order.
 

WelshBloke

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Which is why their "Never Settle" marketing campaign is even more ridiculous.

No it isnt, its a marketing slogan. What are you expecting them to use "A great phone for someone that wants a big screen, its not perfect but nearly. OH, and dat price!"?

The uncertainty in it *fully* supporting all T-Mobile bands, the phone's size(I don't need a freaking phablet), the wasted capacitive buttons, and the lack of wireless charging are the main issues I have with this phone. Yes, in that exact order.

So dont buy it, the phone obviously isnt for you if you're after a smaller device.

Its like that time I went into a John Deere tractor showroom and bitched about the low top speeds and high speed handling of their tractors and how a sub compact was a much better vehicle.
 

VashHT

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No it isnt, its a marketing slogan. What are you expecting them to use "A great phone for someone that wants a big screen, its not perfect but nearly. OH, and dat price!"?



So dont buy it, the phone obviously isnt for you if you're after a smaller device.

Its like that time I went into a John Deere tractor showroom and bitched about the low top speeds and high speed handling of their tractors and how a sub compact was a much better vehicle.

Pretty much this, reading some comments here and on their forum just make me laugh, some people took the whole "never settle" slogan way too seriously.
 

ChronoReverse

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Not bad, even the true "power on" using a reboot is very fast. About 10 seconds in the 1+ screen and 7 seconds of the Cyanogenmod logo.
 

blairharrington

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I'm not interested in a phablet but if this device can hold its own against the Note 3 and be half the price off-contract then it's a VERY big deal.
 

gorcorps

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Which is why their "Never Settle" marketing campaign is even more ridiculous.

Who on earth would take a slogan that literally?

Do you fire off angry email to Mars when M&Ms actually DO melt in your hands, or to Mazda when their cars don't actually "zoom"?
 

sweenish

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OT: I saw a Mazda with a custom plate that said ZOOMZOM. That was a compromise, and an idiot.

I'm fine with people taking these slogans a bit more seriously, as it's just the result of them failing to board their own hype train. If you constantly tout that you're not compromising on anything, and then immediately compromise on mSD, removable battery, and wireless charging (three big things), you're going to get some push-back.

That's without going into other factors like resolution for a phone that size (qHD is coming this year), updates for stable CM are typically one full version behind Google (without taking into account the CM 11s is also skinned), the panel is not IPS LCD, and a freaking MENU button. These smaller ones, people could sweep under the rug. But they compromised, and did it big time when you consider their main demographic.

But at least it's cheap. I see this phone as a Nexus alternative, not even close to a killer.
 

gorcorps

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OT: I saw a Mazda with a custom plate that said ZOOMZOM. That was a compromise, and an idiot.

I'm fine with people taking these slogans a bit more seriously, as it's just the result of them failing to board their own hype train. If you constantly tout that you're not compromising on anything, and then immediately compromise on mSD, removable battery, and wireless charging (three big things), you're going to get some push-back.

That's without going into other factors like resolution for a phone that size (qHD is coming this year), updates for stable CM are typically one full version behind Google (without taking into account the CM 11s is also skinned), the panel is not IPS LCD, and a freaking MENU button. These smaller ones, people could sweep under the rug. But they compromised, and did it big time when you consider their main demographic.

But at least it's cheap. I see this phone as a Nexus alternative, not even close to a killer.

Well the problem is there's so many different tastes, and they may have prioritized hitting that $300 mark over including everything (then there'd be complaints of not being cheap enough ). If you look at the pic of the phone with the back cover off, you can see the copper contacts in the top right that look like they might be used for an aftermarket Qi charger (or an option with one of the covers). I think the samsung phones handle it similarly. They may be for something else though.

My biggest issue w/ the nexus phones have been no expandable memory AND no high capacity option. In that aspect these guys have solved my biggest hurdle with the Nexus phones by offering 64gig.
 

sweenish

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Well the problem is there's so many different tastes, and they may have prioritized hitting that $300 mark over including everything (then there'd be complaints of not being cheap enough ). If you look at the pic of the phone with the back cover off, you can see the copper contacts in the top right that look like they might be used for an aftermarket Qi charger (or an option with one of the covers). I think the samsung phones handle it similarly. They may be for something else though.

My biggest issue w/ the nexus phones have been no expandable memory AND no high capacity option. In that aspect these guys have solved my biggest hurdle with the Nexus phones by offering 64gig.

But Google doesn't shove "no compromises" down your throat over the course of a couple months.

And you said it yourself. They hit that $300 mark above all else. That phrase implies compromise.

They also stated that wireless charging is not happening at all.

I don't care about this phone and have no horse in the race, as it were. I was just saying that I'm fine with people getting on their case over the obvious compromises.
 

s44

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It's a modified Oppo Find 7, since it has LTE band 4 then it must also have AWS for HSPA.
Naah, he's referring to band 12, which T-Mo recently bought from VZ. It's 700mhz that VZ never deployed (they only used the slightly higher-freqency upper C block, this is A&B). AT&T also agreed to move their assholishly split-off "band 17" (basically a segment of band 12 designed to prevent interoperability) back to band 12 proper. There's a nice chart here:
http://www.cnet.com/news/will-a-verizon-moto-x-really-work-on-at-t-and-t-mobile/

This will be really nice when it rolls out, but I doubt it will go live before next summer, and we may even see 850 refarming in some areas first... By then anyone who cares will be on the OnePlus Two anyway.
 

Ravynmagi

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Wow, I can't believe people found something to complain about. This phone is looking very epic to me.

The sealed battery isn't necessarily a compromise as a design decision to go with a larger non-removable battery vs a small removable battery. The larger non-removable battery will benefit far more people, because few of us buy extra batteries.

I really can't complain about the lack of a micro SD slot when they offer a 64GB model for only $50 more.

And the 5.5 inch screen, well a lot of people want big phones.

Yes, they are over hyping the phone. Maybe HTC should be paying attention.
 

lothar

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Naah, he's referring to band 12, which T-Mo recently bought from VZ. It's 700mhz that VZ never deployed (they only used the slightly higher-freqency upper C block, this is A&B). AT&T also agreed to move their assholishly split-off "band 17" (basically a segment of band 12 designed to prevent interoperability) back to band 12 proper. There's a nice chart here:
http://www.cnet.com/news/will-a-verizon-moto-x-really-work-on-at-t-and-t-mobile/

This will be really nice when it rolls out, but I doubt it will go live before next summer, and we may even see 850 refarming in some areas first... By then anyone who cares will be on the OnePlus Two anyway.
Yup. And I live in Maryland which is one of those painted areas.


T-Mobile will start putting it up by 3rd quarter, and all phones released in 4th quarter will have to support it. Most Android phones are good enough to the point where I almost no longer have the yearly upgrade itch, therefore I want to be as future proofed as much as possible.
Given how fast T-Mobile deployed their LTE network in a year, I have no doubt in their estimates.
They're not a company like Sprint which has been promising network improvement for the past 3-4 years to the point that most of the Sprint fanboys are now claiming that Sprint will have the best network in 2015/2016.
 
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