Anyone give SuSE 9.0 a try?

Klosters

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I'm succumbing to anti-MS hostility lately. While I like XP Pro a lot, the fact that MS takes its sweet time(boy howdy) with security patches gives me attitude.

I'm running SuSE 8.1 Pro and coping with most of its flaws. Anyone try SuSE 9.0 Pro or Personal? Has it addressed some of 8.1's KDE problems, etc?

Thanks for your opinions!
 

Zelmo3

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I was using SuSE 9 until something that I updated broke my ethernet, and I couldn't get it working again. Now I'm back to Gentoo.
What are the flaws that you're dealing with?
 

TonyRic

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I am running SuSE 9 on my Compaq Presario 3015US. Works great, 2 issues that are not SuSE related. One is the video driver (Xfree86 problem), fix is easy, just replace the driver file, the other is there is still no 802.11g support, but that is a PCMCIA support issue, but that is workable with linuxant. Otherwise no issues I have seen, all ACPI functionality works great, system is fast and stable.
 

chorner

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I can reccomend SUSE 9. No problems whatsoever here other than your usual Linux crap .... its nice fast and stable; no problems getting my games, DVD's, MP3's etc. working. Everything works as expected. Still no Windows XP pro though ... don't fall for the MS is less secure crap; search on the net for Linux vs Windows security and you'll see that Linux (some distros in specific) outnumber MS in security exploits by a good margin. MS seems to be mid-low on the spectrum when it comes to security.

Something to consider. Don't listen to the BS and find the facts.

 

Derango

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Originally posted by: chorner
I can reccomend SUSE 9. No problems whatsoever here other than your usual Linux crap .... its nice fast and stable; no problems getting my games, DVD's, MP3's etc. working. Everything works as expected. Still no Windows XP pro though ... don't fall for the MS is less secure crap; search on the net for Linux vs Windows security and you'll see that Linux (some distros in specific) outnumber MS in security exploits by a good margin. MS seems to be mid-low on the spectrum when it comes to security.

Something to consider. Don't listen to the BS and find the facts.

Ok, first of all, its in microsofts best intrests to keep code exploits hidden until the absoltly have to let people know about them. I mean, they're a busniess. Who's going to buy a product with a gaping, unpatched security hole? Who knows how many security holes they know about but nobody else has found yet.

Second, in most cases, when a security issues is found in an open source product, there's a patch out within 24-48 hours. Individual distros may not be secure because they don't automaticly update their package versions when a new security patch comes out (with the exception of a few distros), but if an individual user keeps up, then their system should be more secure than the original distro was.

Really, what the whole thing comes down to is the willingness of the user to go out and look for patches and actually install them. This applies to both windows and linux and any other program that has ever been written. Both platforms are only as secure as the user makes it out to be.

And yea, SuSE 9 is a nice distro, didn't have any real problems when I tried it, but I ended up going back to gentoo since I prefer the way it handles packages.
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Derango
Originally posted by: chorner
I can reccomend SUSE 9. No problems whatsoever here other than your usual Linux crap .... its nice fast and stable; no problems getting my games, DVD's, MP3's etc. working. Everything works as expected. Still no Windows XP pro though ... don't fall for the MS is less secure crap; search on the net for Linux vs Windows security and you'll see that Linux (some distros in specific) outnumber MS in security exploits by a good margin. MS seems to be mid-low on the spectrum when it comes to security.

Something to consider. Don't listen to the BS and find the facts.

Ok, first of all, its in microsofts best intrests to keep code exploits hidden until the absoltly have to let people know about them. I mean, they're a busniess. Who's going to buy a product with a gaping, unpatched security hole? Who knows how many security holes they know about but nobody else has found yet.

Second, in most cases, when a security issues is found in an open source product, there's a patch out within 24-48 hours. Individual distros may not be secure because they don't automaticly update their package versions when a new security patch comes out (with the exception of a few distros), but if an individual user keeps up, then their system should be more secure than the original distro was.

Really, what the whole thing comes down to is the willingness of the user to go out and look for patches and actually install them. This applies to both windows and linux and any other program that has ever been written. Both platforms are only as secure as the user makes it out to be.

And yea, SuSE 9 is a nice distro, didn't have any real problems when I tried it, but I ended up going back to gentoo since I prefer the way it handles packages.

ssshh... chorner is a raving lunatic with no clue about anything he's talking about and he is itching for a fight. So leave him alone.
 

Derango

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Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: Derango
Originally posted by: chorner
I can reccomend SUSE 9. No problems whatsoever here other than your usual Linux crap .... its nice fast and stable; no problems getting my games, DVD's, MP3's etc. working. Everything works as expected. Still no Windows XP pro though ... don't fall for the MS is less secure crap; search on the net for Linux vs Windows security and you'll see that Linux (some distros in specific) outnumber MS in security exploits by a good margin. MS seems to be mid-low on the spectrum when it comes to security.

Something to consider. Don't listen to the BS and find the facts.

Ok, first of all, its in microsofts best intrests to keep code exploits hidden until the absoltly have to let people know about them. I mean, they're a busniess. Who's going to buy a product with a gaping, unpatched security hole? Who knows how many security holes they know about but nobody else has found yet.

Second, in most cases, when a security issues is found in an open source product, there's a patch out within 24-48 hours. Individual distros may not be secure because they don't automaticly update their package versions when a new security patch comes out (with the exception of a few distros), but if an individual user keeps up, then their system should be more secure than the original distro was.

Really, what the whole thing comes down to is the willingness of the user to go out and look for patches and actually install them. This applies to both windows and linux and any other program that has ever been written. Both platforms are only as secure as the user makes it out to be.

And yea, SuSE 9 is a nice distro, didn't have any real problems when I tried it, but I ended up going back to gentoo since I prefer the way it handles packages.

ssshh... chorner is a raving lunatic with no clue about anything he's talking about and he is itching for a fight. So leave him alone.

Yea, that was all I was going to say on the subject anyway.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: chorner
I can reccomend SUSE 9. No problems whatsoever here other than your usual Linux crap .... its nice fast and stable; no problems getting my games, DVD's, MP3's etc. working. Everything works as expected. Still no Windows XP pro though ... don't fall for the MS is less secure crap; search on the net for Linux vs Windows security and you'll see that Linux (some distros in specific) outnumber MS in security exploits by a good margin. MS seems to be mid-low on the spectrum when it comes to security.

Something to consider. Don't listen to the BS and find the facts.

Just to correct chorner, he doesn't mean that there are more linux exploits released. Just that he has trouble reading.

Problems people with learning difficulties have when determining who has more exploits this week:
1. They count every RedHat, Debian, Sendmail.org, SuSE, Apple, FreeBSD, Mandrake, and Gentoo e-mail advisory about the SAME HOLE.
2. They sometimes think that if Sendmail has a hole I should count that despite the fact I use non-sendmail deluxe 3.2 or something.
3. They only count Windows software that appears in Windows update, not every Windows compatible program on the market.
4. If it does not affect their Windows machine, it doesn't matter to them.
 

Klosters

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Thank you very much for your opinions, all! I hear many good things about gentoo. Unfortunately, I've forgotten much of what I knew about the in's
and out's of Linux by slacking off for too long. Slacking off does not a Slackware meister make.

I'm curious what changes Novell's purchase of SuSE will make. Hard to know whether it's time to grab the last Novell-less SuSE version or wait
for the new product. I just hope SuSE won't go the way of Red Hat and discontinue support for SOHO users.
 

cleverhandle

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Originally posted by: Klosters
I just hope SuSE won't go the way of Red Hat and discontinue support for SOHO users.
Seems unlikely to me. SuSE has always seemed more interested in the Small Business angle than RedHat, though SuSE's Enterprise line seems to be relatively successful recently. Still, the Novell purchase could change that focus.

I haven't tried 9.0 yet, but I've always been impressed by SuSE as a general-use system. YAST is a great administration for basic and some not-so-basic task, and having everything in one place makes things easy. It seems to me just as easy to use as Mandrake, but comes off feeling much more polished, IMO. It wouldn't be my choice of a system to really hack on - the configuration files, menu system, and scripts behind YAST are totally inscrutable to me, and there are a couple of strange non-standard choices (forked RPM version, for example). I'd take Debian, Slackware, or Fedora if I really want to geek out on a system. But for typical SOHO use, SuSE's great.

 
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