Anyone have any experience with going cold turkey on something..

[yobarman]

Jan was my month of quitting!

I quit drinking a pot of coffee a day. I've had one store bought latte this entire month, so thats much less than my usual consumption lol. Anyways,.. this was about 3 weeks ago and I'm doing fine. I really didn't realize how bad it was for me and how dependent i was on the caffiene.

I also quit ciggarettes (former half pack- pack a day smoker) on the 1st. So its about a little over 30 days so far but I'm doin fine here as well. The first week was terrible... the second week slightly less terrible, third week cravings were pretty much gone. The hard part was not smoking while going out drinking. Damn it's a killer when you're wasted and your inhibitions are pretty low. In any case... I've gotten to the point where I just cut down on drinking too. I still smoke pot though, but its never been a problem for me.

Basically what I did to do a 180 on my health was getting involved with boxing. So now I train like a boxer as much as i can... rather than lifting weights like i used to. This includes a lot of running, jump roping, and heavy bag work, etc... all things that really can't be done on ciggarettes (or in your case, poor health due to pot and pills), You just have to find something you love more than your addiction.

 

[yobarman]

"It's at the borders of pain and suffering that the men are separated from the boys."

- Emil Zatopek

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: spc hink

Originally posted by: RCN

Originally posted by: spc hink

Originally posted by: RCN

Originally posted by: spc hink
Weed does not have a chemical addiction but it does carry a very strong mental addiction. Some people can quit easily, but many people relly on it to maintain a certain level of normalcy.

Very strong?

super very

You have no idea what you are talking about.
Mild at most. The gov doesn't even classify it as very addictive (mental)

I know from first hand experience how strong the addiction can be. You may have been fortunate enough to be able to quit easily. You may still even smoke. But I have a couple of good friends who are very addictive and it is really hurting them. I am not trying to talk bad about weed. I just hate it when people have this fairy tail idea about it.

Your friends are weak minded, the draw of pot is not that strong.

The worst "withdrawls" that I've heard of for someone moderately intelligent and in control of their existance are slight agitation problems.

 

[spc hink]

Well not every one is as mentally superior as you. Weed may not have the same physical symptoms as cigarette withdrawls give, but don't let what you "hear" fool you. I have seen and experienced that it is mentally addictive. Also, I "heard" that people who like to talk down on us average folk are infact insecure and emotionally weak minded. But thats just what I "heard"

 

[Smackem]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

The worst "withdrawls" that I've heard of for someone moderately intelligent and in control of their existance are slight agitation problems.

Methadone and hydrocodone cause very real physical withdrawls. I'm talking about convulsions, vomiting, assfountain, crying, sweating, wishing for death. I doubt that OP got this far into it tho. Yea OP, the pot is something to joke about, but the opiates are no joke. It kind of upsets me that the gov't puts pot next to meth/pills. A kiddo thinks 'well i smoked pot and they lied to me on that, how bad could meth/pills be'

 

[spunkz]

just wondering why everyone has quit or started the process. financial reasons? hurting job performance? not tryin to be sarcastic, but everyone says that weed is great and isn't that bad for your body.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Smackem

Originally posted by: tweakmm

The worst "withdrawls" that I've heard of for someone moderately intelligent and in control of their existance are slight agitation problems.

Methadone and hydrocodone cause very real physical withdrawls. I'm talking about convulsions, vomiting, assfountain, crying, sweating, wishing for death. I doubt that OP got this far into it tho. Yea OP, the pot is something to joke about, but the opiates are no joke. It kind of upsets me that the gov't puts pot next to meth/pills. A kiddo thinks 'well i smoked pot and they lied to me on that, how bad could meth/pills be'

I was refering to pot when I stated that.

I was going to say something along the lines of, "opiates, those are addictive drugs".
I'm well aware of how addictive most drugs can be, hell caffeine is more addictive than pot.

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: RCN
What pills?
I doubt it is the pot giving you these symptoms although it isn't unheard of. Keep smoking and quit the pills. Should take the edge off.

Later quit smoking. Or don't and just change the background of the "scene".

Yea.. pot isn't addicting

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: spc hink
Well not every one is as mentally superior as you. Weed may not have the same physical symptoms as cigarette withdrawls give, but don't let what you "hear" fool you. I have seen and experienced that it is mentally addictive. Also, I "heard" that people who like to talk down on us average folk are infact insecure and emotionally weak minded. But thats just what I "heard"

Interesting.
You seem to "hear" a lot.
And I hope you know when I said "hear" I really meant seen and experienced.

A mental addiction is just that, mental. If one can't break it, one is weak minded.
How hard is that to grasp?

I wasn't talking down to anyone, I was laying down the truth. If you're friends can't accept responsiblity for their mental addiction and change what is there to do?
Blame the pot? Exactly.

:laugh"emotionally weak minded"

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: spc hink
Well not every one is as mentally superior as you. Weed may not have the same physical symptoms as cigarette withdrawls give, but don't let what you "hear" fool you. I have seen and experienced that it is mentally addictive. Also, I "heard" that people who like to talk down on us average folk are infact insecure and emotionally weak minded. But thats just what I "heard"

"Mentally addictive" is called habit-forming. Yes, weed is habit forming. Addiction is a chemical term, and it doesn't apply to weed. You can break the weed habit the way you would break any other habit, like sleeping in late. It takes 30-60 days to mentally get yourself out of the pattern and then most people are usually fine.

OP, how's it going today?

 

[Koing]

Good luck :thumbsup:

Koing

 

[JohnPaul]

Yes, I have quit probably the most addictive substance known to man. Heroin. Now that is a hard drug to quit cold turkey. The worst I have ever felt in my life was quitting H, aside from going off of methadone cold turkey, which was 100x worse than quitting heroin and lasted three months before I could sleep more than an hour a night, and the whole of a year before I even resembled normal.

How often are you taking methadone and the other opiates, because if you are taking those on a daily basis, then that is why you are feeling off. Methadone, as I mentioned earlier in my post takes months before you can even sleep, and it actually takes three or four days without taking it before you go into full withdrawals. I hope that is not what you are addicted to, but I would think you would know if you were hooked on that, as it would be an everyday thing. Also, there are differing levels of addiction, at least physically. If you are only mildly addicted to opiates, it won't take nearly as long to withdraw as it would had you been taking it for a long period of time.

Smoking pot is like quitting lolipops; it sucks, but really there are no lasting physical or mental repercussions, other than a little anxiety that comes on as a result of always having something to mellow you out when you were stressed, and no longer having that.

I only read like half of this thread, so I may have missed some important details that may have been posted, so forgive me if I seem to be rambling about something that it seems I should know has already been covered previously.

Good Luck
John-Paul

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: spc hink
Well not every one is as mentally superior as you. Weed may not have the same physical symptoms as cigarette withdrawls give, but don't let what you "hear" fool you. I have seen and experienced that it is mentally addictive. Also, I "heard" that people who like to talk down on us average folk are infact insecure and emotionally weak minded. But thats just what I "heard"

Interesting.
You seem to "hear" a lot.
And I hope you know when I said "hear" I really meant seen and experienced.

A mental addiction is just that, mental. If one can't break it, one is weak minded.
How hard is that to grasp?

I wasn't talking down to anyone, I was laying down the truth. If you're friends can't accept responsiblity for their mental addiction and change what is there to do?
Blame the pot? Exactly.

The most difficult thing about it is that many habitual users base their entire lifestyle around marijuana. Every activity they do consists of "Lets get stoned and <fill in the blank>". When you decide to quit it can leave a tremendous void, almost like having to re-learn to to enjoy all the things you did before while using. It's not exactly hard, but it can take a while to get used to not having that crutch.

 

[RCN]

Originally posted by: spunkz
just wondering why everyone has quit or started the process. financial reasons? hurting job performance? not tryin to be sarcastic, but everyone says that weed is great and isn't that bad for your body.

Are we talking weed here?

I haven't really quit but I haven't smoked in a few years. No real reason for it.

When I did smoke daily it had no effect on my job preformance, financial stituation other than the cost of buying it, or anything else. I would guess that is because I didn't buy into the stereotypical pothead scene. I'm sure I could have found a few losers to hang out with and smoke all day but I didn't see that as "cool" or necassary in order for me to enjoy marijuana.

 

[Chompman]

Try going cold turkey by not playing WoW for more then one day...

Worst thing to do, stopping smoking and doing drugs in not even close..

 

[spc hink]

Well lets just agree to disagree. I think that weed can be very addictive. I don't think this just pertains to people who are weak minded. But I do agree that it is not nearly as bad as other drugs, nicotine, or caffeine for many people.

 

[spc hink]

Originally posted by: HotChic
"Mentally addictive" is called habit-forming. Yes, weed is habit forming. Addiction is a chemical term, and it doesn't apply to weed. You can break the weed habit the way you would break any other habit, like sleeping in late. It takes 30-60 days to mentally get yourself out of the pattern and then most people are usually fine.

Are we thinking of same word?
I can not find anywhere that shows that "addiction" only pertains to chemicles.
I don't meen to sound rude, I am just saying that there are multiple aspects to addiction.

BTW, keep it up. let us know how you are doing.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: DigDug

Be with yourself. You haven't for so long. It's just you! Don't be so afraid, right?

...

Listen to some music, but not that which is associated with drugs. Talk to people - I'm sure you still know a few despite the many you've let slide by - who don't revolve around drugs. See what they say, what they do

....

Other over-the-top rubbish

Dude, calm down, we're not talking about a homeless heroin using hooker here. Just a normal drug user (like 90% plus of the world's population) trying to quit something.

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: spc hink
Weed is very addictive. Best of luck with quiting OP. Trust me it is very hard, but you won't regret it. Try eating carrots, it helps.

ahahahahahahaha

anyway, best of luck.

 

[FrozenCanadian]

I've gone cold turkey on Weed and its been 20 months now (it was darn hard for the first few weeks). I've also gone cold turkey on Cigarettes and it lasted 2 1/2 months (that didnt last but hey we all need a vice).

 

[Newfie]

good luck dude, keep it up! Im cheering for ya!

 

[Krazefinn]

Not one word of caution here yet, but speaking as a health professional in the field of detox, it is imperitive that you have some medical care. Cold turkey off large amounts of vicodin or oxycodone is NOT recomended, and can carry some severe health risks. It is best to gradually wean yourself down from the pills, because the very real possibility of hallucinations, seizure, tremors, extreme hypertension, as well as the other Dt's (delerious tremens) can cause some major problems. There are also meds to help, and often requisite, especially if you are a using many drugs at high doses (specifically alcohol, cocaine, opiates and their analogues). Often a depressant is needed, like valium, or librium (not used so much anymore), and something for sleep, also for stomach cramps as those coming off off opiates can be immense, not to mention reversal of all side-effects. Since opiates cause constipation, be prepared for many bouts explosive diarrhea. Not unusual to also have kinesthetic hallucinations (sensation of "crawling" under skin), feeling extremely jittery, among others. However, due to the terrible effects of detoxing, even those not predisposed to suicide do attempt it to stave off the demons...BE CAREFUL my friend. Thats why an MD wont just give you bottles of sleeping pills, anxiolytics like Xanex, lorazepam, klonopin...due to that risk.

I used to joke that I had my PhD in THC, but please realize you may be better off coming off the alcohol and pills gradually, while using pot to cope with some of the horrible side effects. I would strongly suggest you seek medical care. At the very least, be cognizant of the fact that you don't have to go cold turkey to "prove" anything, although if successful, you have my unadulterated respect. It is not easy, and can be dangerous. But it can be done, and I speak not only from this side of the "couch", but also as one who 20+ yrs ago gave it all up. It wasn't easy, but was the best thing that I could ever have accomplished. It requires immense intestinal fortitude, a strong support group, the will to stay away from your drug-enabling "acquaintances" (I hesitate to call them friends), and above all, the realization that one setback is NOT FAILURE. Simply pick up the pieces and go on, seek spiritual guidance if you are so inclined, acknowledge that it may take help (12 step programs proctored by faith-based groups tend to be more than 40% higher in longterm success).

Take care, keep us apprised, and develop non-enabling relationships. You will be very grateful when this ordeal is behind you, and you can then enjoy life anew, without anesthetizing yourself with so many harmful substances. "One day at a time, one demon at a time.... and you will one day be your own master again".
But please do be careful out there...

 

[speg]

My WoW subscription expired this morning.


We can do this together!!!

 

[DigDug]

dude, calm down, we're not talking about a homeless heroin using hooker here.

He's addicted to methadone, anus. Read up, douche.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: spc hink

Well not every one is as mentally superior as you. Weed may not have the same physical symptoms as cigarette withdrawls give, but don't let what you "hear" fool you. I have seen and experienced that it is mentally addictive. Also, I "heard" that people who like to talk down on us average folk are infact insecure and emotionally weak minded. But thats just what I "heard"

"Mentally addictive" is called habit-forming. Yes, weed is habit forming. Addiction is a chemical term, and it doesn't apply to weed. You can break the weed habit the way you would break any other habit, like sleeping in late. It takes 30-60 days to mentally get yourself out of the pattern and then most people are usually fine.

OP, how's it going today?

Smoked several times daily from early teens in the '70s, until mid 1996. At that point I quit cold turkey and it was VERY difficult. Took no less that 3 months to get past the horrible moods, including depression and short temper. Call that what you want, there was nothing easy about it, and the OP better be prepared for it.


Listen to some music, but not that which is associated with drugs.

Damn, music has NEVER been the same. I miss that and pot, but until it's legal, I'm not going back to it.