Anyone have some newer G5 vs athlon 64 or similar benchmarks?

Malak

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Maximum PC did one of the G5 vs 1st gen P4EE and I think the FX-53. That was a while ago, but they probably won't be doing anymore anytime soon.
 

SLCentral

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I use both Macs and PC's, so don't call me biased . I'd say that they are faster in different things, PC's take the cake for gaming bar-none, and the rest is pretty much split. Check out barefeats.com for Mac benchmarks, and sometimes they bench PC's to compare. Keep in mind that I find the main selling point for Macs is the opearating system, not necessarily the hardware.
 

teutonicknight

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Originally posted by: SLCentral
I use both Macs and PC's, so don't call me biased . I'd say that they are faster in different things, PC's take the cake for gaming bar-none, and the rest is pretty much split. Check out barefeats.com for Mac benchmarks, and sometimes they bench PC's to compare. Keep in mind that I find the main selling point for Macs is the opearating system, not necessarily the hardware.

And Software: i.e. Final Cut Pro, Shake, etc
 

SLCentral

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Originally posted by: teutonicknight
Originally posted by: SLCentral
I use both Macs and PC's, so don't call me biased . I'd say that they are faster in different things, PC's take the cake for gaming bar-none, and the rest is pretty much split. Check out barefeats.com for Mac benchmarks, and sometimes they bench PC's to compare. Keep in mind that I find the main selling point for Macs is the opearating system, not necessarily the hardware.

And Software: i.e. Final Cut Pro, Shake, etc

Forgot about that. Final Cut owns, but keep in mind Shake is available for Linux too. But yeah youre right, we have Final Cut, Soundtrack, DVD Studio Pro, Motion, etc.
 

MrCodeDude

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You can't do much with a Mac due to the lack of software available for them.

I will admit that Macs have better video-editting software, such as Final Cut Pro.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Lack of software? No, there isnt a lack of software for the Mac. The Mac has most the apps that a PC has. If it doesnt have a certain app, it is substituted by a different app. Same thing applies to the PC.
 

halfadder

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I too would like to see some current benchmarks, but it would be a huge battle of finger pointing and complaining by **BOTH** sides.

I would like to see not only application benchmarks, but also library/API and algorithm benchmarks as well. Let's test encryption, compression/decompression, encoding, test the things that make us wait the most. I don't really care how fast MS Word can scroll, that's what search and pageup/pagedown are for. I don't care how fast Photoshop can do a script of 90 filters, because when I use Photoshop my images are only 5 Mpixel from my digital camera. And the filters I use in Photoshop on those pictures usually take less than a second to run anyway. The last time I really had to wait any real time for Photoshop was back when I had a 90 MHz Pentium. I can wait one second for photoshop, but I wish unzipping a huge file was faster. I wish encoding video was faster. Let's benchmarks and complain about the things that make us wait the most.

I think it would be cool to pit some Apple engineers against some AMD & Microsoft (or Linux) engineers against each other. "OK, write code that'll encode DiVX as fast as possible... use whatver compiler you want and optimize the code as much as you can!"

In fact, Apple should have close ties to Pixar, because Steve Jobs is the CEO of both companies. Pixar should, in theory, be able to heavily optimize Renderman to render really fast on the G5. Now most of the big render farms run Linux on Intel and AMD CPUs, so Pixar would have to keep it fast for PC too. But I think it would be a cool benchmark and challenge for Pixar and Apple... if such close ties for that kind of project isn't illegal or anything.

Apple's doing some neat things on the OS level to make video and audio work faster, I suppose to make their own apps run better. There's lots of info on the 10.4 Tiger website. But I really wish they would do something about graphics, OpenGL to be exact. Maybe they are, but they haven't said much about it. Another area that need work are the compilers. Apple promotes gcc, which is a nice free general purpose cross platform compiler, but it needs more optimizations for the G5. IBM, the company who designed and makes the Power5 and PowerPC G5 processors has their own wicked fast compilers designed mostly for scientific applications. But it would be nice if they and Apple would settle on just one compiler to make better, rather than support two.
 

Baked

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If you're looking for productivity, Mac has boat loads of software. It's the games Mac lacks. I've upgraded from a G3 > Dual G4 > Dual G5 in the past 4 years, got no complains in my line of work, mainly graphics and web design. At the same time, I've upgraded from KT133, to KT266, to nForce2. Not much of a gamer, mostly video editing work at home w/ the PC. So Mac at work, PC at home. I do wish there's a Mac version of EAC so I can do a real world test of which system is faster. Dual G5 2GHz w/ 2GB PC3200, or Barton 2.2GHz w/ 512MB PC3200. Don't laugh, the PC actually crunches SETI numbers faster than the Mac.
 

halfadder

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SETI is a strange beast. At my university, our old Silicon Graphics machines with a 250 MHz MIPS R10000 processor could crunch SETI faster than a 700 MHz P3! The 800 MHz R16000 CPUs could crunch as fast as a 3.0 GHz P4!
 
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