Anyone have the 191T?

Rayman2k2

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Anyone have it? How is the ghosting? And have you watched movies and tv on it? If so, how is it?
 

Mem

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I`ve a Samsung 191T which has excellent image quality,ghosting wise under heavy gaming like Q3,UT,TFC etc it`s minimal,what I mean is there`s some slight ghosting but not enough to distract you from gaming and most times you don`t really notice it(I`m using mine in DVI Mode).

As to all things you really need to see & judge for yourself.

I`ve not tried mine for TV,however I`ve tried mine for DVD movies which was ok.




 

Alptraum

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Originally posted by: Mem
I`ve a Samsung 191T which has excellent image quality,ghosting wise under heavy gaming like Q3,UT,TFC etc it`s minimal,what I mean is there`s some slight ghosting but not enough to distract you from gaming and most times you don`t really notice it(I`m using mine in DVI Mode).

As to all things you really need to see & judge for yourself.

I`ve not tried mine for TV,however I`ve tried mine for DVD movies which was ok.


I don't have the 191t. I do however have the 192t, which is not much more price wise. At the time I got mine it was only about $70 more. I am not sure what the price difference is now. I have had no issues with ghosting. Games played include Americas Army, C&C Generals, Star Wars Galaxies and Raven Shield among others. I love this monitor and would highly recommend it.
 

Rayman2k2

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also, i was thinking 191T+ due to the swivel capability, which I need. does the 192T have swivel?
 

Alptraum

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Originally posted by: Rayman2k2
also, i was thinking 191T+ due to the swivel capability, which I need. does the 192T have swivel?


No, it does not. I went back and forth wondering about the 191t and 192t for awhile. I read a lot of reviews and talked to some people. The main differences were

Price = 191t (or 191t+) wins here.
General quality(image and so on) = the 192t wins here. Though its not like night and day.
Swivel feature = 191t. Not possible on 192t.

I thought about it and realized that I would pretty much never use the swivel feature anyways. So the higher quality easily won out for me and I got the 192t. If this makes a difference to you the 191t is the only way to go. Get either the 191t+ or the 192t over that 17". Thats not even a comparision
 

Rayman2k2

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the reader reviews that i have read about the 191t+ on newegg.com have seemed very bad, they talk about horrible ghosting...
 

ticktack

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these LCD screens, if the more larger the screen size, the more it's prone to ghosting as what I have observed, even with my 15"inch, which has 28ms response time, but there's almost zero noticeable ghosting even with DVD playback or FPS games, but when I saw my cousin's 19"inch Samsung as abovementioned model 191T+, it has visibly noticeable ghosting, all these are most likely due to a bigger screen size, which is my own deduction from having personal experience.
 

Alptraum

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I don't know about the 191t+. But at least on my 192t ghosting has not been even a slight issue with me. I am very happy with it and game frequently.
 

eastvillager

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I have two 191T's next to an old Sony 520GS.

Do they ghost compared to a CRT? Yes.

Is it noticeable? For a week or two, you might notice it a bit, after that, you won't notice it at all, especially if you can game in the native resolution of the LCD. Games that won't do native can/will look like crap, especially if they've got chat windows(mmorpg, etc.)

I finally decided I could play all of my games on the LCD displays, and retired the 520GS last week.

If I was still a competitive FPS nut, I'd probably keep the CRT as main.
 

Rayman2k2

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hmm...this is really getting tough. i dont want to deal with returns if it ghosts horribly, and, I am also looking at the 1703fp, it has USB ports built in, which is a major plus in my situation, and does swivel. methinks it wont ghost TOO badly, or atleast not as much as the 191T+

btw, what is the difference b/w the 191T and the 191T+?
 

EarthwormJim

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I don't even notice the ghosting on my 191T except in Max Payne 2 when you reload while in slow motion and the camera quickly pans around Max (it's really more a blurring effect than ghosting, which I think is better anyways). It's very nice too to have a bigger monitor than a 17inch, even if the screen real estate isn't any bigger. I think the only difference between the 191T and the 191T+ is contrast ratios.
 

Alptraum

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The 191t+ is a slightly improved version. I would definetly get one of the 19" Samsung's over a 17". Unless pivot is a big deal to you I would get the 192t. I love mine.
 

Alptraum

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Originally posted by: MahjonggMastah
...I am also looking at the 1703fp, it has USB ports built in, which is a major plus in my situation...

Unless I'm mistaken, the 192T also has 2 USB ports built into the base.


Nope, it has 0. I have some crazy amount on my case though so it didn't matter to me. I have only used the USB port built into any of my monitors once. But if thats a big deal there are none one the 192t.
 

Rayman2k2

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any more opinions?


also, is it a buyers market for 19" LCDs at the moment? in terms of ghosting vs. quality vs. price. I have the chance of investing the money into stock which could grow or decrease, or buying an LCD...
 

EarthwormJim

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Just wondering, have you thought about waiting for another sale on the Dell 2001fp? Last sale it was only around $100 or so more than a 191T. It's supposed to be ghost free, does 1600x1200 and has usb ports.
 

Rayman2k2

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touche. but am i patient enough to wait? that sir will be one helluva question to answer...


also, doesnt the 2001fp have problems with "screen-dooring", tons of dead/stuck pixels, and leaking backlights?
 
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