Anyone heard of Hiper PSU's?

[PrISM506]

Does anyone know if it'll work in an Antec P180 case with the shorter cables?

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
14k, seeing that your not State side limits what I can offer, aside from a real PSU review. Never trust Kick Ass Awards or reviews done by sites with names like KickButtComputers

Read http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/foxconn-hiper.html If you read the review it's nothing to write home about after the bloom is off the rose. A Fortron/Sparkle for the same money would be better.
It is not fully modular, the main harness is hardwired.

For our purposes, the face of an ATX PSU is 150x86mm, depth can vary from standard 140mm to 150, 170(iirc),180,185,200 or 220 is the deepest I've seen. The modular connects add depth that can get in the way of deep opticals. So one has to measure to be sure.

This unit will Froogle here in The States for $110 http://www.enhanceusa.com/file/33_specification.pdf
After doing my homework, I bought one.

essasin, The new M12 Seasonics will be semi-modular. The main harness will be hardwired.


...Galvanized

I agree. The Hyper-R is the automotive equivalent of a Grand AM with 19's and a Supra wing. Much better PSUs can be had for the money from Seasonic, Forton-Source, PCP&C, ect. If you need modular this Enhance is the one to beat.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Mem

Then we might be all buying Aspire PSUs

FYI Hiper tend to over volt a bit on the rails for added stability,this below taken from their homepage.

All our PSUs, if measured with a Multi-Meter as software is unreliable, will show our lines slightly above the marked current (i.e 12V at 12.24 for example). This is by design and not a fault. Hiper PSUs are designed for users who will drive their systems to the edge and not for users with one device and a floppy connected. We have to assume our clients may be Over Clocking their components and will need more power output than normal.

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Moot point (and rather deceiving). Whatever needs extra power to overclock higher can be given higher voltage individually. Why boost the +12V voltage and risk damaging a HD when you can just go into the BIOS and up the CPU/memory voltage? Just an excuse for poor regulation.

What's so special about their implementation of modular cables? Unique connectors?

Connections are avionic type(as used on aircraft) so virtually impossible for them to come loose unless you unscrew them on purpose,and gold plated pins to prevent rust and bad contact.

Moot points, again. Once everything is installed, there wouldn't be any reason why the cables would fall out (save for a rat or two).

Gold plating the pins might reduce contact resistant, but by a negligible amount. There's absolutely no reason why a well-designed connector would have bad "contact", save for significant surface corrosion, which leads me to my next point - ordinary pins in Molex connectors and what-have-you are tin-plated. Perhaps not as electrically conductive as gold, but it still serves its purpose of resisting corrosion (i.e. no "rust"). The outer layer of the tin reacts with the oxygen in the air to form tin oxide which, like copper oxide, protects the rest of the tin from further corrosion, and furthermore is electrically conductive itself.

In short - ordinary [well-designed] modular cable connectors won't suffer from rust or bad contact.

as usual Howard your responses are based on what? Obviously nothing informative.

The debate concerning the advantages vs the disadvantages of a modular design is still on going even amoung manufacturers.

Also its been proven time and again that gold plating is far superior to the regular tin plated connectors.
if it were not superior why would a company such as OKIA make all there connectors gold plated??

Again...theres 2 sides to every story!

In the big scheme of the debate maybe all this doesn`t matter.
But until proven otherwise.
There is no absolutes.

 

[Howard]

JEDIYoda, I have wasted enough time on you. I will no longer reply to your inane drivel.

 

[jonnyGURU]

I have two issues with Hiper:

1. They overrate their PSU's. They take a Andyson AD-550 and label it as a Hiper 580W. If you know me, you know that's an automatic "X" in my book, no matter how good of a "550W" it might be... even if 550W is all you need.

For the record: Aerocool also uses the same platform and also over-rate their units. Sunbeam uses the same platform and DOES NOT over rate their units. In other words, an Aerocool 580W, Hiper 580W and a Sunbeamtech 550W are all the same thing.

2. Look at how many leads each modular connector has. There's less connections at the PSU end then at the computer end of the cable. For example: There's three wires feeding the P4 +12V conector. Only two 12V and one ground. Funny... I've always been taught that you want MORE grounds then hots. Hmm.....

Super Flower is now using the same BNC-type of connector only they have a one to one connection between the PSU and the motherboard/peripheral. My only problem with Super Flower is they tend to be VERY EASY to cross load.

Other than that Hipers are great.

Better than Jeantech? Mmmm.... Not sure about that.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Howard
JEDIYoda, I have wasted enough time on you. I will no longer reply to your inane drivel.

thast good! Because I wouldn`t want you to be flooding these forums with at best ismisinformation that you cannot support.

have a nice day!!

 

[LOUISSSSS]

i dunno what you two are arguing about but personally i wouldn't buy this PSU. cuz 1 its obviously targeted towards the 12-15 age group with the funky looking modular cables. 2. it comes in a fishing tackle box which probably cost half of the psu. 3. a quote from an article reviewing this psu:

At light load, its rating is a paltry 64.4% - the lowest value for any of the power supplies we tested!

64% efficiency is horrid. my fsp is rated at 85%

the overvolting the 12v rail from their website is BS. why would u overvolt for overclockers and 'exteme' users when u can raise the voltages yourself in the bios (as stated by howard). IMO thats poor engineering.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

i dunno what you two are arguing about but personally i wouldn't buy this PSU. cuz 1 its obviously targeted towards the 12-15 age group with the funky looking modular cables. 2. it comes in a fishing tackle box which probably cost half of the psu. 3. a quote from an article reviewing this psu:

At light load, its rating is a paltry 64.4% - the lowest value for any of the power supplies we tested!

64% efficiency is horrid. my fsp is rated at 85%

the overvolting the 12v rail from their website is BS. why would u overvolt for overclockers and 'exteme' users when u can raise the voltages yourself in the bios (as stated by howard). IMO thats poor engineering.

 

[essasin]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
i dunno what you two are arguing about but personally i wouldn't buy this PSU. cuz 1 its obviously targeted towards the 12-15 age group with the funky looking modular cables. 2. it comes in a fishing tackle box which probably cost half of the psu. 3. a quote from an article reviewing this psu:

At light load, its rating is a paltry 64.4% - the lowest value for any of the power supplies we tested!

64% efficiency is horrid. my fsp is rated at 85%

the overvolting the 12v rail from their website is BS. why would u overvolt for overclockers and 'exteme' users when u can raise the voltages yourself in the bios (as stated by howard). IMO thats poor engineering.

Louis and Howard are right. Please search the forums first because this has been discussed many times and they all outline that you can buy a better psu for the money because the modular desgin is not very efficent at all.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: essasin

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
i dunno what you two are arguing about but personally i wouldn't buy this PSU. cuz 1 its obviously targeted towards the 12-15 age group with the funky looking modular cables. 2. it comes in a fishing tackle box which probably cost half of the psu. 3. a quote from an article reviewing this psu:

At light load, its rating is a paltry 64.4% - the lowest value for any of the power supplies we tested!

64% efficiency is horrid. my fsp is rated at 85%

the overvolting the 12v rail from their website is BS. why would u overvolt for overclockers and 'exteme' users when u can raise the voltages yourself in the bios (as stated by howard). IMO thats poor engineering.

Louis and Howard are right. Please search the forums first because this has been discussed many times and they all outline that you can buy a better psu for the money because the modular desgin is not very efficent at all.

Actually Howard posted in favor of the modular design......read what he posted concerning the modular design.........

 

[letdown427]

I have a 580 Type-R, as does a friend of mine, and a second friend of mine (2 friends!! WOW!) has a Hiper 480w.

They've all worked flawlessly, never had any problems, although the 80mm fan can get noisy if it's at full speed, so I've had it removed for a month or so with no problems (it's summer here too)

I left PC on whilst I went on holiday, it had no problems, i've had it running games for 24hours with no problems, never had any problems with voltages on the rails or anything.

I've got a 4400+ @ 2.4Ghz, and a 7900gtx (to give an idea of power draw maybe...)
Friend has also had no problems, he has a 3800+ @ 2.4 and a HIS x1900xt

They seem to be pretty well regarded in Europe, if i build another PC, i'll definately use this PSU again.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
i dunno what you two are arguing about but personally i wouldn't buy this PSU. cuz 1 its obviously targeted towards the 12-15 age group with the funky looking modular cables. 2. it comes in a fishing tackle box which probably cost half of the psu.

You can do better than that. You can't automatically disregard a PSU simply because of it's looks.

 

[acegazda]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
They're not very popular yet, but the Hiper Type R modular PSUs are great. Go for it. I'd still try to buy online though, since it's usually a lot cheaper than in stores.

The Hiper Type R modular is the only modular I would even think about getting!!
They appear IMO to be the only company that does modular correctly!!

What about the enermax liberty? Johnny gave it a favorable reveiw here. A quote from his article:

Going from Test 1, which was a 338.3W load, all of the way up to Test 4 and Test 5, the Liberty only dropped .16V! That?s better than most non-modular power supplies!

And someone said modular cables made the performance worse?

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
The Hiper modular Seriews PSU`s are excellent!!
They get rave reviews!!

If i was going to go modular thats the way I would go!!

 

[LOUISSSSS]

^^ i can't tell if thats sarcasm? or just poorly worded lol

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
^^ i can't tell if thats sarcasm? or just poorly worded lol

Sarcasm hardly,,,,
I actually like the way its modular connectors are done.
You must remember this thread started on 4/14/2006.
Alot has happenned concerning this PSU since.
Alot of fvorable reviews.
In Europe this is a very popular brand.
It should be a popular brand in the States.
If you are going to get a Hiper PSU it needs to be the Type R series.

Yet If I had to go modular today it would iether be an Enhance modular or the Enermax Liberty.


Actually this is the internet.
Nobody is being graded on grammar.
If you really need to bump your post count up; you could try posting something constructive.

 

[Mem]

Hehe thought this thread got buried,FYI my Hiper Type R PSU is still running great,fans are still quiet too.

Nowadays there are a lot of good PSUs around and also unfortuantely quite a few bad ones too,ignoring the many good reviews and going by Hiper Type R owners here,consensus seems to be all positive.I also own some Enermax PSUs too and no difference on stability IMHO.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: PrISM506
Does anyone know if it'll work in an Antec P180 case with the shorter cables?

No, it will NOT work.


Even says so on Hiper's site. It's the mobo cable that is the issue.

 

[Smilin]

Yes, this thread was way buried. I did a search instead of posting the question again like a noob


My Hiper 580 should arrive tomorrow. It will be placed under a VERY heavy load. Considering what I'm throwing at it I consider this a bit of a risk. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Thanks for everyone who replied - Hiper owners especially.

 

[Aluvus]

Originally posted by: acegazda
What about the enermax liberty? Johnny gave it a favorable reveiw here. A quote from his article:

Going from Test 1, which was a 338.3W load, all of the way up to Test 4 and Test 5, the Liberty only dropped .16V! That?s better than most non-modular power supplies!

And someone said modular cables made the performance worse?

They do. If one particular power supply with modular cables beats some that don't in a particular test, that does not in any way indicate that the modular cables aren't a handicap. On a good design, they should not be a large handicap. A well-made power supply with modular cables should still behave like a well-made power supply.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Aluvus

Originally posted by: acegazda
What about the enermax liberty? Johnny gave it a favorable reveiw here. A quote from his article:

Going from Test 1, which was a 338.3W load, all of the way up to Test 4 and Test 5, the Liberty only dropped .16V! That?s better than most non-modular power supplies!

And someone said modular cables made the performance worse?

They do. If one particular power supply with modular cables beats some that don't in a particular test, that does not in any way indicate that the modular cables aren't a handicap. On a good design, they should not be a large handicap. A well-made power supply with modular cables should still behave like a well-made power supply.

Well said. And very objective (which is rare in these forums.)

 

[acegazda]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: Aluvus

Originally posted by: acegazda
What about the enermax liberty? Johnny gave it a favorable reveiw here. A quote from his article:

Going from Test 1, which was a 338.3W load, all of the way up to Test 4 and Test 5, the Liberty only dropped .16V! That?s better than most non-modular power supplies!

And someone said modular cables made the performance worse?

They do. If one particular power supply with modular cables beats some that don't in a particular test, that does not in any way indicate that the modular cables aren't a handicap. On a good design, they should not be a large handicap. A well-made power supply with modular cables should still behave like a well-made power supply.

Well said. And very objective (which is rare in these forums.)

I was merely correcting the generalization made earlier in this thread, attempting to convey the same reply you did.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: Smilin
My Hiper 580 should arrive tomorrow. It will be placed under a VERY heavy load. Considering what I'm throwing at it I consider this a bit of a risk. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Ok, it arrived and is currently powering:

590 AM2 chipset w/ dual nics, onboard sound, lighted keyboard, optical mouse.
Audigy 2
2gig DDR2 800
3x hard drives (2 x 10krpm 73gig Raptors, 1x 500gig 7200rpm)
Dual core AMD 4600
Dual core video card (nvidia 7950gx2)
cold cathode light tube.

No power related issues at all. Sound is pretty quiet.

The case on the power supply is beautiful. I only got the plain black one but the finish is like a car. Chrome grill and fans nice. The wrapped cables are high quality, very clean looking and easy to work with. Several lengths are provided including one dedicated for your video card.


My gripes:
1. In my case I'm using every cable so the advantages of the modular design are lost on me. (This doesn't deter from the clean cable benefits though)
2. To remain durable the modular cables are stiff where they connect to the power supply and they protrude a ways. My case design (Lian Li-PC65b iirc) features a blowhole fan on top and the cable connectors made things a tight fit.

 

[Mem]

The case on the power supply is beautiful. I only got the plain black one but the finish is like a car. Chrome grill and fans nice. The wrapped cables are high quality, very clean looking and easy to work with. Several lengths are provided including one dedicated for your video card.


My gripes:
1. In my case I'm using every cable so the advantages of the modular design are lost on me. (This doesn't deter from the clean cable benefits though)
2. To remain durable the modular cables are stiff where they connect to the power supply and they protrude a ways. My case design (Lian Li-PC65b iirc) features a blowhole fan on top and the cable connectors made things a tight fit.

I too have the black version,I agree about the short cables ,however should be fine in most midi tower cases,full towers is where it will cause the most problems.Welcome to the Hiper club .