Anyone here a frat brother?

[UDT89]

i am, you wanna talk anytime just PM me.


you just gotta learn to ignore the members that feel its ok to knock you since your a member of the greek system. its like the geeks getting revenge for years of harassment around here. its truly sad. They guy asked a question, and people turn it into a personal values thread. Get over yourselves, youre better than i am, i know. :disgust:

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: dcdomain
Ignorant...

I'll take your flames to heart if any of you have pledged for a fraternity and dropped your letters. I would guarantee almost all the fraternity brothers on this forum have experienced some time in college as a non affiliated student. That means most of the affiliated members have seen both sides. How many of you here, who are bashing have experienced both sides?

All organizations have their good and bad, but here are some 'selective' facts that I am presenting from Greek101:
Of North Americas 50 largest corporations, 43 are headed by Fraternity men and Sorority women.

7 out of 10 people listed in Who's Who are Greek.

85% of Fortune 500 executives belong to a Fraternity or Sorority.

40 of 47 Supreme Court Justices since 1910 were Fraternity men.

76% of all Congressmen and Senators belong to a Fraternity or Sorority.

Every US President and Vice-President, except two in each office, born since the first social Fraternity was founded in 1825, and 3 Canadian Prime Ministers, have been members of a Fraternity. Statistics show that Fraternity and Sorority members have a higher rate of graduation from college than do their non-member counterparts.


Anyway I wrote a paper about fraternity life for my Organizational Behavior class, I'm not blind, I know all about the negatives of Greek life, but nothing is perfect, people who complain about are the ones not in the know who take everything at face value...

Paper

pwned!

Yah the last thread ended up a big mess, with all the haters talking about spending money on their computers rather than buying friends. Lmao, unplug sometime people!

Chiz

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: The Dancing Peacock
What's cooler to you, having a small apartment party where 3 or 4 guys sharing a place throw a party each dropping 40 bucks on it , or where 80 guys pool their money and have a kickass party with lots of chicks and beer?

I go with option Number 1. However, my roommates and I each do not drop $40 and we actually have respectable, non-slutty girls show up.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: dcdomain
7 out of 10 people listed in Who's Who are Greek.

10 out of 10 people listed in Who's Who are morons for falling for a nationwide money herding project.

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: UDT89
i am, you wanna talk anytime just PM me.


you just gotta learn to ignore the members that feel its ok to knock you since your a member of the greek system. its like the geeks getting revenge for years of harassment around here. its truly sad. They guy asked a question, and people turn it into a personal values thread. Get over yourselves, youre better than i am, i know. :disgust:

i dont know where "around here" is, but if you think theres visible division between "greeks" and "geeks" and that harassment still goes on, you're living in tv circa 1984 revenge of the nerds

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Greek?? What does Greece have to do with anything? I wish I knew why they even use those letters. What a scam.

 

[CoolTech]

rofl, this thread is a riot. keep it coming.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: dcdomain
Ignorant...

I'll take your flames to heart if any of you have pledged for a fraternity and dropped your letters. I would guarantee almost all the fraternity brothers on this forum have experienced some time in college as a non affiliated student. That means most of the affiliated members have seen both sides. How many of you here, who are bashing have experienced both sides?

All organizations have their good and bad, but here are some 'selective' facts that I am presenting from Greek101:
Of North Americas 50 largest corporations, 43 are headed by Fraternity men and Sorority women.

7 out of 10 people listed in Who's Who are Greek.

85% of Fortune 500 executives belong to a Fraternity or Sorority.

40 of 47 Supreme Court Justices since 1910 were Fraternity men.

76% of all Congressmen and Senators belong to a Fraternity or Sorority.

Every US President and Vice-President, except two in each office, born since the first social Fraternity was founded in 1825, and 3 Canadian Prime Ministers, have been members of a Fraternity. Statistics show that Fraternity and Sorority members have a higher rate of graduation from college than do their non-member counterparts.


Anyway I wrote a paper about fraternity life for my Organizational Behavior class, I'm not blind, I know all about the negatives of Greek life, but nothing is perfect, people who complain about are the ones not in the know who take everything at face value...

Paper

early entrance into the good ol' boy system has its benefits

 

[Kev]

I'm not a frat boy.


Sorry, I don't buy my friends.

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: dcdomain
Ignorant...

I'll take your flames to heart if any of you have pledged for a fraternity and dropped your letters. I would guarantee almost all the fraternity brothers on this forum have experienced some time in college as a non affiliated student. That means most of the affiliated members have seen both sides. How many of you here, who are bashing have experienced both sides?

All organizations have their good and bad, but here are some 'selective' facts that I am presenting from Greek101:
Of North Americas 50 largest corporations, 43 are headed by Fraternity men and Sorority women.

7 out of 10 people listed in Who's Who are Greek.

85% of Fortune 500 executives belong to a Fraternity or Sorority.

40 of 47 Supreme Court Justices since 1910 were Fraternity men.

76% of all Congressmen and Senators belong to a Fraternity or Sorority.

Every US President and Vice-President, except two in each office, born since the first social Fraternity was founded in 1825, and 3 Canadian Prime Ministers, have been members of a Fraternity. Statistics show that Fraternity and Sorority members have a higher rate of graduation from college than do their non-member counterparts.


Anyway I wrote a paper about fraternity life for my Organizational Behavior class, I'm not blind, I know all about the negatives of Greek life, but nothing is perfect, people who complain about are the ones not in the know who take everything at face value...

Paper

....and as a result we have honest corporations, a peace-loving alternative-energy driven government, and a house/senate that makes all the right decisions, eh? Getting in government (*cough* Bush!)/business (*cough* Enron!) is one thing, being exceptionally good at it is another.

Edit: slight addition
Edit2: I just read the paper linked above. Interesting points but my opinion still stands.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: dcdomain
Ignorant...

I'll take your flames to heart if any of you have pledged for a fraternity and dropped your letters. I would guarantee almost all the fraternity brothers on this forum have experienced some time in college as a non affiliated student. That means most of the affiliated members have seen both sides. How many of you here, who are bashing have experienced both sides?

All organizations have their good and bad, but here are some 'selective' facts that I am presenting from Greek101:
Of North Americas 50 largest corporations, 43 are headed by Fraternity men and Sorority women.

7 out of 10 people listed in Who's Who are Greek.

85% of Fortune 500 executives belong to a Fraternity or Sorority.

40 of 47 Supreme Court Justices since 1910 were Fraternity men.

76% of all Congressmen and Senators belong to a Fraternity or Sorority.

Every US President and Vice-President, except two in each office, born since the first social Fraternity was founded in 1825, and 3 Canadian Prime Ministers, have been members of a Fraternity. Statistics show that Fraternity and Sorority members have a higher rate of graduation from college than do their non-member counterparts.


Anyway I wrote a paper about fraternity life for my Organizational Behavior class, I'm not blind, I know all about the negatives of Greek life, but nothing is perfect, people who complain about are the ones not in the know who take everything at face value...

Paper

so what you're telling us is frats breed liars, thiefs, cheats, and assholes? major company executives and politicians are not exactly members of society that most of us look up to.

 

[Placer14]

Proud member of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

so what you're telling us is frats breed liars, thiefs, cheats, and assholes? major company executives and politicians are not exactly members of society that most of us look up to.

You're right, everyone should aspire to work at McDonalds.

(See how easy that is?)

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: PipBoy

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

so what you're telling us is frats breed liars, thiefs, cheats, and assholes? major company executives and politicians are not exactly members of society that most of us look up to.

You're right, everyone should aspire to work at McDonalds.

(See how easy that is?)

easy and dumb.

 

[Nocturnal]

Did your post say "Anyone here a 'fat' brother?"

I could have sworn I saw that this morning.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: geno
Just curious - I will be one after January I'm pretty psyched about it, it's something I'd really like to do.

Look, the first thing you need to remember as a pledge, and for the rest of your life, is that it is not "FRAT". Its FRATERNITY. After all, would you call your country a c_nt? I learned that the hard way after HELL WEEK!

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: geno
Just curious - I will be one after January I'm pretty psyched about it, it's something I'd really like to do.

Although, by asking ATOT, you're pretty much insuring the only responses you get will be from Lambda Lambda Lambda brothers.

 

[Grminalac]

Well,

I'm sure there is a world of difference between the honors fraternity or the law fraternity at Harvard and MIT or another IVy league school, and TAPPA KEGGA BREW at the local sh!t college.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Grminalac
Well,

I'm sure there is a world of difference between the honors fraternity or the law fraternity at Harvard and MIT or another IVy league school, and TAPPA KEGGA BREW at the local sh!t college.

hey, I resemble that remark!

 

[richardycc]

I was a founding father for one of the frat on campus, and they kicked me out because I didn't pay my dues. The ironic part is that in order to become a "brother," one had to take and pass a quiz, and I remembered one of the tricky questions was "how do you quit?" and the answer was "you can't, because once you are in, you are in it for life." I guess It was all fun ang game until you didn't pay.


Rich

 

[Mistah Magik]

I have something better to do with time and money ....

 

[dcdomain]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Greek?? What does Greece have to do with anything? I wish I knew why they even use those letters. What a scam.

The first "Greek" fraternal order on the collegiate level, Phi Beta Kappa started the tradition of using Greek letters. I forget what they were called exactly, but basically the club was named Societas Philosophus or something along those lines, they had Phi Beta Kappa on their insignia or crest which was their motto and eventually they were known by the letters which represented their motto. Now the reason why they went Greek? One of the founding members was apparently the best Latin scholar in the area... how relevant that is to you guys I don't care, hell it's not about the letters, the Greek system or whatever it is on the top level, you make the most of it... it's what the brotherhood means to each individual.

richardycc, in our fraternity, if a brother cannot pay dues, the other brothers help them out. And we don't take away letters from a brother and kick him out because he is unable to pay, that's bull, what kind of brotherhood is that? If he can't pay and no one can help him, he'll become inactive, but dropping the letters that's a bit much.

so what you're telling us is frats breed liars, thiefs, cheats, and assholes? major company executives and politicians are not exactly members of society that most of us look up to.

Hey if this world is so sh!tty, how come I don't see you making your way up the ranks on the corporate ladder or in politics? Again, more generalization, I'm sure some of those bastard CEOs and politicians are affiliated but what of those who are not? As I stated before, all organizations have their bad and good, to generalize and stereotype is wrong. Okay, wrong to me, whatever values anyone else would like to go by is up to them.

I'll be the first to admit, in the past, Greeks were influential and were a positive influence. Over the years some Greeks have turned into the demons that were depicted in Animal House and what not. I'll be the first to say, I wish we could go back to the old days where brothers were fined for showing up buzzed or drunk to any fraternity events. But the Greek system is dynamic and continually evolving, maybe someday we can reverse the stereotype and be seen in a positive light by the public. Everyone sees the parties, the drunks and the troublemakers, are you aware of any philanthropy/service events conducted by your local Greeks? The Greeks at Carnegie Mellon are unmatched by any other organization on campus in terms of philanthropy...

For the people who go through pledging to become a brother only to have a good time drinking and getting some slutty girls, good for you, thank you for messing things up. But I'm sure most of the people, who actually dedicated their time and energy to pledge did it for a more idealistic reason. Would you rush or pledge for a fraternity that centered around parties and getting drunk? I don't know what kind of people would... brotherhood is a vision, props to anyone who strives to achieve it, and to the rest do a little more research and stop stereotyping...

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw

Originally posted by: geno
Just curious - I will be one after January I'm pretty psyched about it, it's something I'd really like to do.

Although, by asking ATOT, you're pretty much insuring the only responses you get will be from Lambda Lambda Lambda brothers.

Lmfao, so funny, so true. All the social rejects here need to realize you pay for any organization you willingly choose to join throughout life (anyone here part of their Rotary club? Chamber of Commerce? Country Club?) If you want the benefits, you gotta pay the price. Now of course the anti-Greeks here say they have better ways to spend their money, but in reality, they further contribute to their introvert lifestyles hiding behind computer screens (I went to the AMD event, pretty scary).

As for paying my fraternity dues, they've paid themselves back ten-fold. When I was competing for top jobs with the rest of the eggheads in my graduating class, I got the offers b/c not only was I graduating with honors, I held leadership positions in my fraternity and on the IFC. I've got an excellent job now after only 3 years of work, and again, am in a position where I have a supervisory role. The lessons I've learned through my fraternity experience benefit me greatly at work, which allows me to live a lifestyle I've grown accustomed to commensurate with my salary. I get the best of both worlds, I satisfy my inner-geek without having the appearance and mentality of one.

Chiz

 

[LS20]

Originally posted by: chizow
I got the offers b/c not only was I graduating with honors, I held leadership positions in my fraternity and on the IFC.

so you got a job because of leadership experience. would it be different had it been with a frat or a troop of boy scouts? so what are the real reasons you would join a social frat? for a sense of 'brotherhood'? haha. to ensure a social life? sounds like youre the socially inept one here

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: chizow
I got the offers b/c not only was I graduating with honors, I held leadership positions in my fraternity and on the IFC.

so you got a job because of leadership experience. would it be different had it been with a frat or a troop of boy scouts? so what are the real reasons you would join a social frat? for a sense of 'brotherhood'? haha. to ensure a social life? sounds like youre the socially inept one here

Yah, you may feel comfortable putting "boy scouts" on your resume, but most people who actually need a resume for a job might think twice about it. Greek organizations mimic Corporate America, thats why we excel after school and thats why employers target us. They know what we've gone through and know we have what it takes to succeed. How do they know this? Because there's a good chance they went through the Greek System at their school. They've hired Greeks in the past and they know what they're getting.

I joined a fraternity b/c it was an organization suited to my personality. Not everyone has the luxury of attending the local community college with all their best friends from High School. My friends were at different schools and the blessing/curse of being in the Honors program put me smack dab in the middle of Geek central. A guy I went to HS and played baseball with was a brother in the house I pledged, and he invited me rush. The simple answer to "why would you join a social frat" is because you want to be around people you would associate with normally, not a bunch of dorm rats some person in the Dept. of Campus Housing set you up with.

Of course the benefits and true value of a fraternity reveal themselves later. Greeks do more for a campus than any other organization, and that is fact. Check your campus philanthropies, fundraisers, and alumni donations if you don't believe me.

Chiz