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ArizonaSteve

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I still care, but I have come to the realization that technology advancements in the desktop space have slowed to a crawl, and that there are not that many games coming out these days that I'm interested in.

Sure, I will buy the new Doom and Witcher 3, but I will wait until all DLC is packaged into a "complete edition" and will probably wait further until there is a decent Steam sale. I want nothing to do with incomplete games, day 1 DLC, season passes and other mechanisms that are designed to part me from my money.

It's a similar thing with CPUs and graphics. I am really disappointed by the recent price hikes, both for the GTX 1080 and for Broadwell-E. I am planning a build for next year using Skylake-E (or X or whatever it's called - Intel needs to get their act together with naming) or Zen, together with big Pascal or Vega. Honestly if Vega or Zen turn out to be any good I will buy those simply to stick it to Intel/nVidia.

As of now I'm rocking a 3570K and two GTX670s. Once I build my next machine, I can ignore all the hardware companies for the next decade while their engineers sit on their hands and continue to drip-feed us improvements (especially if Zen/Vega does not live up to expectations).
 

imported_bman

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Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077, D44M, Deus Ex 4, Mass Effect 4, and the next Battlefield make me interested in the new cards. Heck I have plenty of older games that chug on my 780 @4k (Homeworld Remaster, STALKER series with mods, Metro games, GTA V). Just wish monitors and tcons would advance at decent rate, how long will it take before we get a Displayport 1.4 monitor that is capable of 4k @ 120hz 10bit or even better a 21:9 5160x2160 @ 120hz 10bit.
 

Zodiark1593

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The games I have actually stuck with for more than a couple hours, ironically, would probably run happily on my old laptop's Radeon 5470.

My internet is too lousy for Rocket League, Tomb Raider (2013) I can't be bothered to finish, same for Witcher 2. Battlefield is the same shooter as ever.

Eternal Senia, a relatively simplistic, and short 2D jRPG that you can get free on Steam, has given me more play time than any individual above game.

At the moment, I'm playing through Fortune Summoners. 2D with visuals similarly on par with old school jRPGs like Chrono Trigger. Challenging, though at the same time fun. Hilariously, due to broken DirectDraw emulation in Windows 10 (Thanks Microsoft -___-), framerate is even slower than the aforementioned games. Without some DirectDraw to OpenGL hack, the game runs at 5 fps. With the hack, it's somewhere between 45 and 60.
 

jabroni619

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While I don't have as much time to play games as I used to, I still enjoy gaming and video cards just as much as I ever did. I don't always buy the latest and greatest video card every generation, but I'm always interested in the latest and greatest.
 

Majcric

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I have to admit I've been guilty of buying games just for benchmarking and trying out new hardware.

As someone else mentioned for pure story and fun I've enjoyed Life is Strange that would probably run on my in the closet 9800GTX+
 

nitromullet

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I definitely still care, and a definitely still play and enjoy games.

What wears me thin is the ever increasing and prolonged hype train that goes along with graphics card launches.

On May 6th, NVIDIA did a reveal event for the GTX 1080/1070, we've seen subsequent reviews for both cards, but a month later there is still almost no GTX 1080s available in retail. As for the GTX 1070, it has still not even officially launched yet.

AMD is even worse. They teased Polaris in January at CES, and then finally made an announcement last week (six months later) at Computex with more details and pricing of the actual RX480. Still no actual benchmarks and planned availability for the end of June is still almost a month away.

Basically, (only taking official announcements into account) we have NV milking the launch for over a month, and AMD teasing pre-launch stuff for six months!

Of course, all the while the manufacturers are hyping and not delivering, you have the 50+ page "speculation" threads that pretty much bury any somewhat interesting tidbit of information between posts by the same few forum members arguing with other over some crap that none of them can ever prove.

...so, yeah, I still care about gaming and hardware, but I'm growing tied of the ever increasing amount of baggage that comes with it.
 

dark zero

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I still care, but I have come to the realization that technology advancements in the desktop space have slowed to a crawl, and that there are not that many games coming out these days that I'm interested in.

Sure, I will buy the new Doom and Witcher 3, but I will wait until all DLC is packaged into a "complete edition" and will probably wait further until there is a decent Steam sale. I want nothing to do with incomplete games, day 1 DLC, season passes and other mechanisms that are designed to part me from my money.

It's a similar thing with CPUs and graphics. I am really disappointed by the recent price hikes, both for the GTX 1080 and for Broadwell-E. I am planning a build for next year using Skylake-E (or X or whatever it's called - Intel needs to get their act together with naming) or Zen, together with big Pascal or Vega. Honestly if Vega or Zen turn out to be any good I will buy those simply to stick it to Intel/nVidia.

As of now I'm rocking a 3570K and two GTX670s. Once I build my next machine, I can ignore all the hardware companies for the next decade while their engineers sit on their hands and continue to drip-feed us improvements (especially if Zen/Vega does not live up to expectations).
Agreed. Games lately went in the retarded path so hard that I think that gaming entered into a massive dark age and very few games and even worse indie ones (like Rocket League and Undertale) are the ones who are innovating in that matter.
 

jabroni619

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I definitely still care, and a definitely still play and enjoy games.

What wears me thin is the ever increasing and prolonged hype train that goes along with graphics card launches.

On May 6th, NVIDIA did a reveal event for the GTX 1080/1070, we've seen subsequent reviews for both cards, but a month later there is still almost no GTX 1080s available in retail. As for the GTX 1070, it has still not even officially launched yet.

AMD is even worse. They teased Polaris in January at CES, and then finally made an announcement last week (six months later) at Computex with more details and pricing of the actual RX480. Still no actual benchmarks and planned availability for the end of June is still almost a month away.

Basically, (only taking official announcements into account) we have NV milking the launch for over a month, and AMD teasing pre-launch stuff for six months!

Of course, all the while the manufacturers are hyping and not delivering, you have the 50+ page "speculation" threads that pretty much bury any somewhat interesting tidbit of information between posts by the same few forum members arguing with other over some crap that none of them can ever prove.

...so, yeah, I still care about gaming and hardware, but I'm growing tied of the ever increasing amount of baggage that comes with it.

The waiting game is annoying, but the sky rocketing cost is even more annoying.
 

escrow4

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The last good games were on the PS2 which was the last good console. Remember the suffering or bloodrayne or manhunt? When games were entertaining and different? Limited exceptions as always but now its all multiplayer fluff. Even Rockstar sold out GTA V's singleplayer which is a joke, never mind the 65GB install.

Games are getting huge whilst stuffed with a 5hr campaign which has been a dozen times over. The joy and the magic has gone.
 

nitromullet

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The waiting game is annoying, but the sky rocketing cost is even more annoying.

I agree and disagree with this.

Yes, costs are rising for the high end latest and greatest, but if you really just want to play games you can do it for relatively cheap. Just an example, newegg is running a 3 day sale this weekend which includes an EVGA GTX 970 for $269.99. Even without the promo code, the card is still $274.99.

Sure, $275 could still be a lot of money, but we're talking about a card that will handle anything 1080p you throw at it, with 1440p doable with some tweaking.

Of course, there are other options around $300 with the R9 390, and AMD has promised the RX480 to start at $200.

Also, I should clarify, waiting is not my problem. I get that graphics cards are on the relatively cutting edge of technology. They take time to get to the market, and initial availability may be slim. This has always been the case. My irritation is with the hype train, and what seems like an ever increasing timeline between the bombastic announcement and actual product availability.
 

IllogicalGlory

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There aren't really any new games that I'm excited for, and everything I play at the moment would run great on a 750 Ti, and some of them far far less.
 

tential

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I still care, but I have come to the realization that technology advancements in the desktop space have slowed to a crawl, and that there are not that many games coming out these days that I'm interested in.

Sure, I will buy the new Doom and Witcher 3, but I will wait until all DLC is packaged into a "complete edition" and will probably wait further until there is a decent Steam sale. I want nothing to do with incomplete games, day 1 DLC, season passes and other mechanisms that are designed to part me from my money.

It's a similar thing with CPUs and graphics. I am really disappointed by the recent price hikes, both for the GTX 1080 and for Broadwell-E. I am planning a build for next year using Skylake-E (or X or whatever it's called - Intel needs to get their act together with naming) or Zen, together with big Pascal or Vega. Honestly if Vega or Zen turn out to be any good I will buy those simply to stick it to Intel/nVidia.

As of now I'm rocking a 3570K and two GTX670s. Once I build my next machine, I can ignore all the hardware companies for the next decade while their engineers sit on their hands and continue to drip-feed us improvements (especially if Zen/Vega does not live up to expectations).

This is what makes me feel like I'm getting dripfed games. I am not in a rush to get any new GPU (Hence why my feels on crossfire/sli are different since games get profiles by the time I get to them), because the games I want to play aren't even complete. They haven't received all DLC, or are these episodic games or something along those lines. Because of that, I'm not interested in buying a half complete game, I wait for all DLC and maybe even a texture overhaul before playing.
 

Armsdealer

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For me iD and Nintendo in the 90s were the companies that were genuinely innovating. Nintendo was taking risks that either paid out (game boy, Nintendo 64) or failed horribly (virtual boy) and the stuff that succeeded was genuinely a superior form of entertainment vs anything we'd seen yet. Today I see a directionless Nintendo that doesn't really know what to do with itself.

iD was pioneering new modes of gameplay (3d shooting, *online deathmatch*) and created an intensity in gaming that imho reached its peak with Quake3/ra3/quakelive. Today iD it's just using the same old formula and tweaking it in ways that aren't obviously making gameplay better.

Since then, no matter how many new games I play, battlefield, rainbow 6, whatever, I have to go back to quake to get my fix because nothing since then has the testosterone and weapon balance of that game. (Thank god after almost 18 years there are still plenty of servers/players) I had high hopes for doom, but there's nothing really new there other than pretty graphics. Since q1 online deathmatch, I haven't felt compelled to play many single player games (other than puzzle games).

I think roomscale VR is the innovation we need to pull us out of this lull in gaming. I've been using it and it's taking gaming to the next level for me , and has rejuvenated my interest in gpus
 
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Leyawiin

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Not nearly as interested as I was 10 years ago. Had just got Oblivion - I can't think of any game the last few years that captivated me like that. I would literally spend my entire weekend playing that first few months.
 

StrangerGuy

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Since then, no matter how many new games I play, battlefield, rainbow 6, whatever, I have to go back to quake to get my fix because nothing since then has the testosterone and weapon balance of that game. (Thank god after almost 18 years there are still plenty of servers/players) I had high hopes for doom, but there's nothing really new there other than pretty graphics. Since q1 online deathmatch, I haven't felt compelled to play many single player games (other than puzzle games).

Yeah, I got turned off by Doom4 once I knew it's not a Doom 2 no-nonsense mass demon murder simulator, but instead a Doom 3 with faster run speed and combo moves.
 

ZGR

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I strongly suggest to find a topic you are interested in. Many older games have such outstanding mods, that it is a downgrade to buy a newer game.

Medieval 2's LOTR mod brought thousands of hordes of Orcs to life in an RTS game. It was the first PC game where I could literally recreate a LOTR battle at a 1:1 scale while looking great.

Now I play ARMA 2's Invasion 1944/Iron Front mods. I can recreate a WW2 skirmish at a 1:1 scale (at around 15fps), but I find it far more entertaining than any WW2 game I have ever played.

On Sins of a Solar Empire, I downloaded the Star Wars Interregnum Mod, Star Trek mod, Battlestar Galactica mod, Sins of the Prophets (Halo) mod, etc.... These all come with a Galaxy Forge, allowing anyone to make a map! I now make maps for every mod.

Tons of older games support mods and custom maps very well, far better than their newer versions. I strongly encourage anyone to find an old game with a mod that is so well built, that it becomes superior to the vanilla game.
I'm done with locked down games. Why limit myself to a walled garden when there are games that have near perpetually free content? Sure, not all mods are great, but every game has its own "perfect" mod.
 
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TBH? A little less every year.

Plus my doctor says I'm basically going to die by 40 if I don't start spending more time sweating outside.
 

Armsdealer

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Sure, not all mods are great, but every game has its own "perfect" mod.

That's why doom isn't hopeless. I'm sure the modding community will do something interesting with idtech 6, but at the end of the day, when iD used to release games, they were something beyond special because they were innovating in ways that nobody else was. They invented and perfected online fps, created the first real pc 3d game that didn't use sprites, etc.

Perhaps it's not surprising that the magic man himself is working on VR now and not at iD. I have high hopes for VR.
 

Armsdealer

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TBH? A little less every year.

Plus my doctor says I'm basically going to die by 40 if I don't start spending more time sweating outside.
VR is a dream come true for you. Read about how much weight people are losing playing games in VR at the Vive reddit. The device has only really been around for 3 months!

I was gaming with my Vive for about 4 hours today, would have been six, but you really feel like you need a break because it's physically exhausting!
 
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agfkfhahddhdn

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I felt this way until very recently. My favorite games have always been shooters, but I got really down on the shooter market a couple years ago. They all became shooters in name only, they were really just first-person action adventure games with half-assed RPG mechanics. Far Cry 3 was the last straw; that was one of my favorite series and they turned it into a game that was indistinguishable from half the others on the market. I sold my PC in 2013 and bought a MacBook. Only came back into the fold at the end of last year to play Just Cause 3 and was pleasantly surprised at the quality of recent games.

I have become such a jaded gamer it isn't funny.

The new Doom looks okay, but not quite enough to make me buy a new video card.

I'm still waiting for Half Life 3.

Doom looks amazing, and the success of that and the new Wolfenstein games gives me renewed hope. I, too, was just waiting for HL3, but it looks like other companies than Valve have remembered how to make good shooters.
 

Dribble

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I care about the games more then the gpu's these days.

All this rage about how card X gets 10% higher performance then card Y in some game no one wants to play anyway, and anything less then a 970 would be considered un-usably slow. Yet I'm playing with people who seem to be able to play everything they want to just fine with 3+ year old gpu's that weren't even top end when they bought them (i.e. if you were to play them on-line they'd probably thrash you despite your 4k screen and quad SLi).

I've always bought the kit so I could perform better, but it turns out these days past a certain point which includes some pretty old kit it makes very little difference. Everyone else here must be buying just to look at the pretty maxed graphics, but really the difference between mid and maxed settings in most games isn't that great - you got to spend a lot of money for a little more sharpness. Anyway no one actually plays games to look at the pretty graphics (well for more then an hour or two) - how fun a game is has very little to do with being able to run graphics at max not medium.

Overwatch is a case in point - that game is actually fun to play, looks great even on mid settings and runs on lots of old kit. Around the world there are people playing that on kit everyone here would look down on and playing well having lots of fun, while this forum would just argue about how dumbed down games are and how there's no maxxed setting to make it worthwhile having quad Sli. Outside of here people just play the game on it's own merits and on those it's better then pretty well anything else around. On this forum for the last few months all that matters is Aots, but really that's a dull game no one much wants to play. Here lies the difference between geek gpu forums and geek gaming forums. I'd argue the geek gaming lot are having a lot more fun...
 
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DidelisDiskas

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Stopped playing games about 6 years ago. Half a year ago it came to my mind that i was wasting a good ammount of time by watching youtube videos, movies and tv shows, so i thought that instead of sitting like a zombie it would be better if spent that free time doing something interactive, like playing games!

Recently finished:

Pillars of Eternity
Wasteland 2
Borderlands 2
Half Life 2 (replayed it) and episode one

Also playing Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat.

Since i game on linux, i don't really need the latest and the greatest of hardware (and AAA games usually suck anyway), but i'm fascinated by new hardware and really like small and efficient designs. I might just get one of the polaris cards and am also interested in what will come out from the new zen apu's next year.
 
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