Anyone here have a Telescope?

trigun500

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I always wanted to get a nice telescope. I always found enjoyment in gazing into space ect. I'm looking into buying one but the price ranges are huge. any one have their opinion on what should be a minimum price I should pay for a decent one? Trying to avoid spending $2,000.
 

JMapleton

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First, answer these questions.

1. Is weight an important issue?
2. Do you plan to take photos through it via a DSLR camera?
3. What is your price range?
 

alkemyst

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I was looking at 8 and 10" dobsonians from telescope and telescopes .com.

What's your real budget? This is going to be what you want to stick with. Spending too little is something you don't want to do on a scope.

You can look on youtube to see what different scopes do.

JMapleton is a telescope hobbist here.
 

trigun500

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I'm looking for a $500-$1,000 investment right now. but if I wait a few months I can put more money into it. I just want to make sure I get a quality product so if I need to spend more money I'll be more than willing.

1) weight is not an issue
2) The idea of taking pictures sounds really neat to me so if it's a possibility I'd be willing to spend the money for it.
3) Like I said $500-$1,000 right now but I'm willing to go higher (or lower if applicable)

One thing to note is that I'm new to this. So I also don't want to get a product that I'll be in over my head with.

Thanks a lot for the responses.

EDIT: After looking at telescope .com there seems to be a bunch of telescopes in my price range and under. Maybe I won't have to spend as much as I thought?
 
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GuitarDaddy

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I've had a Meade ETX series scope for many years and I have really enjoyed it. The Autostar controllers on these scopes are really cool, you manually align the scope to the north star and set, then it will auto navigate to and track thousands of celestial objects. Great scopes in the under $1000 range



ETX 125 $699
http://www.telescopes.com/telescope...lescopepremiereditionuhtccoatingsbluetube.cfm


If budget wasn't an object I would get one of these

LX200 8" $2599
http://www.telescopes.com/telescope...edcomafreetelescopewithuhtcstandardtripod.cfm
 

JMapleton

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I'm looking for a $500-$1,000 investment right now. but if I wait a few months I can put more money into it. I just want to make sure I get a quality product so if I need to spend more money I'll be more than willing.

1) weight is not an issue
2) The idea of taking pictures sounds really neat to me so if it's a possibility I'd be willing to spend the money for it.
3) Like I said $500-$1,000 right now but I'm willing to go higher (or lower if applicable)

One thing to note is that I'm new to this. So I also don't want to get a product that I'll be in over my head with.

Thanks a lot for the responses.

EDIT: After looking at telescope .com there seems to be a bunch of telescopes in my price range and under. Maybe I won't have to spend as much as I thought?

Before you decide, you should research the different types of telescopes to see which aspect of astronomy you find most appealing.

Let me break it down for you. There are three basic types of telescopes.

1. Reflector - A reflector is basically a giant tube with a mirror in the back and a little one, set at an angle, in the front. No lenses or anything.

Advantage: In telescopes, aperture is king. The bigger (wider not longer) the telescope the better. With a reflector, you get most aperture per dollar. You can get a 12 inch reflector for under $1,000 and 12 inches is huge for a telescope. Most reflectors are often called "Dobsonians."

Disadvantage: Reflectors cannot be used for take photos (save for a few super high end ones) and they are typically very large in size and very heavy. They're also fragile, and require some maintenance (collimation with a laser, which is easy to learn).

2. Refractor - A refrator is basically a small tube with lenses. No mirrors (except for the diagonal on the back). I have a refractor (Televue 76).

Advantage: Refractors typically have the best image quality in terms of sharpness and clarity. Also, most refractors are designed for taking photos and with the proper mount you can take very high quality images with them. Refractors are also typically very small and compact.

Disadvantages: They're very small and you have little aperture to work with. In photo taking, aperture is not that big of a deal. But when used visually, you typically don't see very much through a refractors because they're so small for the money (say a $1k reflector vs a $1k refractor). You also need a specialized mount (EQ mount) if you plan to take photos with it.

3. Schmidt-Cassegrain - This type is a combination of the both. It has a mirror and a lens.

Advantage: SCs can be used well for taking photos and visually because you can get decent aperture and you can get decent photos with them. They're also not that heavy. They're a middleground in almost every way, weight, cost, size, photo ability.

Disadvantage: They're a middle ground. If you REALLY want to take photos, you'll find they won't be as clear as a refractor (stars won't be pinpoint sharp). If you REALLY want to use them visually, they're not as big as a reflector for the same price.

Side note: Do you live in a city or in the country? I really think people who live in the city should second guess if they really want a telescope. Light pollution is a real killer when it comes to astronomy. You can still see stuff from the city (I live in the city), but not nearly as much. Really decide this is something you want to spend money on. I think people are disappointed at what they can or cannot see when it comes to astronomy. They think they'll see Jupiter like the Voyager satellite saw it (the planets are very small when looking through most telescopes). Or they'll see a galaxy like it was shown in a city (in reality, most nebulas and galaxy are shown in greyscale, not color). You need a camera to get any color out of anything except a planet, that's the appeal of astrophotography. Really shop around the think about it before you make a choice. Also, PM me if you're ready to buy, I know a guy who works for a major telescope retailer and he'll give you the best price possible. But really do your homework before you decide.
 

JMapleton

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I've had a Meade ETX series scope for many years and I have really enjoyed it. The Autostar controllers on these scopes are really cool, you manually align the scope to the north star and set, then it will auto navigate to and track thousands of celestial objects. Great scopes in the under $1000 range

I think Celestron is better. They have way better customer support and their alignment process is way easier than Meade's. Meade has been having some trouble lately. Celestron is the best mainstream company.
 

Blackjack200

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Side note: Do you live in a city or in the country? I really think people who live in the city should second guess if they really want a telescope. Light pollution is a real killer when it comes to astronomy. You can still see stuff from the city (I live in the city), but not nearly as much.

This is the killer for me. I really want to get into astronomy and astrophotography, but I live about halfway between NYC and Philly, so Orion is pretty much the only thing that can penetrate all that light pollution.

I really thought about getting a nice refractor on an eq mount, but I checked how far I would have to drive to have dark skies, and it was almost two hours. Imagine driving all that way only have clouds get in the way!

Oh well, maybe someday I'll live in a less developed area.
 

AstroManLuca

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Dobsonians (reflectors mounted on a simple swivel base made out of particle board) have the most aperture for the money, by far.

For $1000 you can get:

- A 12" Dobsonian reflector
- An 8" Schmidt Cassegrain on a fork mount
- A 6" reflector on a quality equatorial mount
- A 5" scope with motorized go-to pointing
- A 5" cheap refractor
- A 2.5" premium refractor WITHOUT a mount

So you can see how much extra you're paying for high-end refractors. They produce beautiful images but you really pay for it.

I have an 8" Dob myself. Cost about $500 including an eyepiece set. I can't take pictures with it since it doesn't have a motorized tracking mount, but to take good quality photos you need a really sturdy mount anyway, plus a lot of patience. And some experience wouldn't hurt either. Getting a simple dob will let you build up to something else in the future.

I'd also recommend you get a good pair of binoculars if you don't already have any and a star chart or guidebook of some kind. Also, an adjustable red flashlight is really helpful, lets you look at your charts without ruining your night vision.

Also, for photography, what you need can really change depending on what you're shooting. You can get decent moon shots by just holding a camera up to the eyepiece. But anything else will require more effort. Planets may require several seconds and nebulae and galaxies can take from many minutes to over an hour. There are a lot of challenges involved - focusing properly, making sure the tracking is just right, guiding the scope to prevent it from getting blurry. I tried to read up on in once and my head hurt from all the stuff you have to do. And of course on a half hour long exposure you have to hope nothing screws up your shot like an errant cloud, car headlights, a flashlight, or someone bumping your tripod.
 

JMapleton

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This is the killer for me. I really want to get into astronomy and astrophotography, but I live about halfway between NYC and Philly, so Orion is pretty much the only thing that can penetrate all that light pollution.

I really thought about getting a nice refractor on an eq mount, but I checked how far I would have to drive to have dark skies, and it was almost two hours. Imagine driving all that way only have clouds get in the way!

Oh well, maybe someday I'll live in a less developed area.

The advantage with a nice refractor is, if you're taking photos, you can take photos of lots of things, even if you live in the city. A camera can see more than your eye can. So, let's just say something like the Dumbell Nebula, which you probably cannot see. I cannot see it either visually from my city (of about 800,000 people). But if I stick my camera into my telescope and try to see it, I can do a 2 min exposure and it shows up in color nicely. Do 10 photos and stack them and you have a great image. Except for maybe some orange glow of light pollution in the background.

But your camera can see 10x as much as your eyes can see.
 

JMapleton

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And of course on a half hour long exposure you have to hope nothing screws up your shot like an errant cloud, car headlights, a flashlight, or someone bumping your tripod.

If you're doing a half an hour exposure though, you're dealing with at least $10k worth of stuff. You need a big time mount to do it that long. My $700 EQ mount starts streaking around 5 minutes.
 

trigun500

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Thanks a lot for the information! I'll look into this further after work.

I recently moved to the city but I'm from the county and I visit there regularly to see family.
 

JMapleton

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Thanks a lot for the information! I'll look into this further after work.

I recently moved to the city but I'm from the county and I visit there regularly to see family.

Def do your research before you spend your money. I would recommend visiting CloudyNights.com a forum for astronomers. It's a great site with a lot of information. Just jumping into the first telescope you see is a big mistake.
 

AstroManLuca

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Yes, Cloudynights.com is good. Also check out Astromart.com and ScopeReviews.com.

Cloudy Nights has reviews and helpful how-to articles by many different contributors.

Astromart is more of a classified service, like Craigslist for astronomy gear, but they also have lively discussion forums.

ScopeReviews is one guy who owns a garage-full of telescopes. He also gets ones from manufacturers to review. He's slowed down in recent years but he has dozens of reviews up. It's a little more technical but still very helpful. Also, unlike computer gear, telescope stuff doesn't tend to change much over time. A review of a telescope from ten years ago is pretty much still useful today.
 

pontifex

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i have an 8 inch dobsonian that i bought years ago and rarely use. Its either too hot or too cold outside or I don't feel like dragging it out. I don't have the best view of the night sky due to trees but it is fairly dark.

The other thing is trying to locate objects.
 

JMapleton

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i have an 8 inch dobsonian that i bought years ago and rarely use. Its either too hot or too cold outside or I don't feel like dragging it out. I don't have the best view of the night sky due to trees but it is fairly dark.

The other thing is trying to locate objects.

Use Stellarium. It's a software that gives you a pretty good idea of where everything is.

http://www.stellarium.org

It's completely free.
 

AstroManLuca

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It's also a good idea to get a planisphere. They're not very detailed but they will show you which stars and constellations will be in the sky at any given time. Something like this:



Make sure you get one close to your latitude. 35°N, 45°N, whatever.
 

JMapleton

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I have the Planisphere Luca posted, it works well for aligning the scope.

I also have one of those battery operated forehead lights by Energizer for light. It has a red light on it to read the that skymap.

You can also put Stellarium on a laptop and bring it outside with you. I do that too.
 
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