Anyone here play guitar?

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snoopy7548

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Looks pretty cool.

I continued on with one minute chord changes. I started at around 15-20/minute (counting each chord change as one - D A D A would be four), and after a couple of nights ended up around 25-30. The past week I haven't been able to practice much so I've just been practicing my open chords (mainly A). I broke a string, but I'm getting some replacements on Monday.

One question... I think my wrist is OK, but I'm not sure about my finger positioning. It's like my second and third fingers are building up nice calluses right in the center (if you're looking at them from the top), but my first finger is building up a callus to the left of center and slightly down the side. I'm trying to correct this, but I simply can't stop my first finger from laying more sideways on the fret - my wrist and other fingers just don't bend that way. I can get all of my fingers to be perpendicular to the fret with the E chord, though.

Is this just normal for the D and A chords? I guess this is why I should really get a teacher...

Here are some pictures. The order is D, wrist position for A, A, A, E.


https://imgur.com/a/ohmMZfE
 

PJFrylar

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Yeah, I'm planning on taking lessons after I finish with school - which is soon. All I have left is writing my capstone paper. I haven't really even been practicing the past 2 months at all. I'm sure I've got plenty of things I could be doing better, and I plan on at least getting help to build a solid foundation. The way I figure, if you start off with small bad habits and play that way for years - it will be really hard to correct them later. My index finger does that but not quite as much. It ended up being a bit of a problem with the C chord; I initially had issues with it laying on the string under it and muting it. I'll leave it to others who actually know what their talking about to give feedback on it being good or bad though lol.

Does anyone have experience with custom neck builders like USA CG, Warmoth, and Musikraft? I've found I like fingerboards with a larger radius. I was looking at buying a new neck for my Stratocaster. The default option would be to just buy a replacement neck from Fender with a 12 inch radius, but I figured I could at least explore other options.
 

ch33zw1z

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Looks pretty cool.

I continued on with one minute chord changes. I started at around 15-20/minute (counting each chord change as one - D A D A would be four), and after a couple of nights ended up around 25-30. The past week I haven't been able to practice much so I've just been practicing my open chords (mainly A). I broke a string, but I'm getting some replacements on Monday.

One question... I think my wrist is OK, but I'm not sure about my finger positioning. It's like my second and third fingers are building up nice calluses right in the center (if you're looking at them from the top), but my first finger is building up a callus to the left of center and slightly down the side. I'm trying to correct this, but I simply can't stop my first finger from laying more sideways on the fret - my wrist and other fingers just don't bend that way. I can get all of my fingers to be perpendicular to the fret with the E chord, though.

Is this just normal for the D and A chords? I guess this is why I should really get a teacher...

Here are some pictures. The order is D, wrist position for A, A, A, E.


https://imgur.com/a/ohmMZfE
My newbie opinion, normal stuff. Play it the way it's comfortable for you, and as close to recommended as possible. Everyone's hands are different.
 

snoopy7548

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Sounds good, thanks. I'm sure my fingers will eventually fall into their own place.

I just restrung my guitar with some D'Addario EXP26 light gauge strings. The strings I had on there were at least eight years old (came with the guitar and I never played it so I never bothered to change them) and pretty heavy. Theses one are so light and sound great, and the chords are easier to play. What a difference.
 

nakedfrog

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I'd work on not having your finger right up against the fret (in the pics, middle finger on the D chord, ring finger on the A, ring finger on the E). The hand position itself looks acceptable. Maybe changing your wrist angle would help with your index finger?
 

DigDog

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thumb goes back on the neck, middle. not the side.

everyone ignores this rule though, even me.
 
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King of the fret board.
His dexterity is phenomenal around 3.30.

Seen him twice live and man some of the classiest and most powerful playing these days.

You guys should check out a 20yo kid named Marcus King and a ginger named Jared James Nichols. Sweet Jesus can these boys play.
 

MetalMat

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Yeah I play guitar, bass guitar, drums and sing. Currently in a band, actually have a gig on Saturday, and have been in many bands throughout the past 20 years. Picking up the guitar in high school is easily one of the best life decisions I have ever made. It's never to late to learn though. I'm actually really interested in learning the keys as of late.

If you are interested there is actually a current humblebundle with a bunch of "for dummies" books related to music.
 

dr150

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OP,
Just know that 90% of beginners give up in Year 1 (according to a Fender study). That's an important fact to know as you don't know full well what bucket you'll fall into.

In order to minimize the financial impact of "giving up" or just keeping it as a half-ass "once in a while" hobby, buy a USED guitar on Reverb.com (forget Ebay, this is THE best site for used musical gear according to musicians). A new guitar is 50% off the minute you step out of a guitar store. So you'll save huge by buying used from someone else who gave up--guaranteed the guitar will be "like new".

As for models, get a split-coil HSS Strat. Strats are the most comfortable body style to practice on and the Humbucker in the bridge will give you the heavy tones you want but also single coil split.

As for learning, there's TONS of stuff out there but the best paid site I can recommend you is Guitartricks.com (the largest guitar learning site on the net for a reason). If you sign up for their emails they'll send you a $99/year offer (they have a FREE TRIAL btw). Well worth to start immediately on it! For that price you get a real in-depth course structure from beginning and then it splits off into the genre you choose: blues, rock, country. The course is dummy proof and includes tabs & backing tracks. Where GT really separates itself is the 1000 LICENSED SONGS they teach. No other lesson programs has this in-depth of song library teachings. If you want to learn how to play songs in different genres with tabs & backing tracks and get real deep, you'll get it here!

Justinguitar.com is decent and free but no comparison to GT, btw. The recently created Sygates.com is another interesting choice, free--well worth a look.

Another really fun tool to keep you motivated is Rocksmith 2014 (PC, gaming machine). They also have 1000 licensed songs and is a great learning tool with mini games, a virtual band to play with, lessons, and of course the songs. Rocksmith isn't meant to replace GT or other learning sites but to be a "supplement" to your learning. It's extremely fun and they add new songs every Tuesday. Check it out: LINK.

Next up, you'll need a good learning amp. The Yamaha THR10/10x ($300) is by far the most recommended amp by experienced users-really good sounding. Check out these vids: Video 1, Video 2.

There are cheaper learning amps out there like the Blackstar Fly Bluetooth ($99) or Boss Katana Mini ($99). They'll do the job for basic tones. They're tiny but sound amazing (Fly Review Video). I'd choose the Fly over the Katana in this lower price tier due to the bluetooth for backing tracks.

Once you evolve enough in your playing where you want different effects tones, you can link ANY of these practice amps to the Zoom G1Xon ($80).....Product page LINK. The Zoom is top rated in sounds and includes a Looper and Drum Machine to help you practice. If you couple the Zoom with the Yamaha THR10 or Fly/Katana, you'll have all the tones to emulate any song out there. There's tons of Youtube vids to show you how all these units sound, here's a sampling on the Zoom with a Pink Floyd Song.

Everything I mentioned above is tried and true and #1 rated in their respective categories. You can spend countless hours scouring music forums to draw up similar conclusions I've posted above. Spend that time getting your butt in gear and practicing instead! Rock on!
 
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ImpulsE69

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I had a Les Paul for like 10 years (traded for it) before i actually tried to learn it. When I was deployed, a buddy taught me the basics, then I didn't really do much with it for years after that. Then Rocksmith came out....now I am a guitar god. (okay...not that good...but I've come a long ways). I'm more about originals than covers, but I definitely figured out that learning different types of music teaches you methods of playing things. I'll never be great..Just don't have the finger speed...but I manage...even have done some djent type stuff.
 

ch33zw1z

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I checked out the Rocksmith thing. Looks very cool, I wanted the PC version....but reviews are terrible. Not the game itself, just that many of them are missing activation codes.

Funny enough, I thought immediately "bet it's Ubisoft"....yup....it's Ubisoft. I haven't played a single game from them that went smooth.
 

ch33zw1z

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I have Rocksmith on steam and have never had an issue.
Just buy that a the cable?

U use steam link with it?

The problems people we're reporting was buying the PC version, not through steam. I may just pick it up on steam, I think both the kids and I would like it.
 
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PJFrylar

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Just buy that a the cable?

U use steam link with it?

I bought the original Rocksmith for xbox 360, which came with a cable. I bought a spare cable, in case I wanted to split screen with someone. I never really got into guitar back then though. I bought the 2014 version on Steam and use those cables with my PC. While I do have the older version of the cable, the new ones are also supposed to be universal.

I don't use steam link, I usually just play on my monitor (27 inch 1440p). I do occasionally use my laptop to play on my TV though.

I'd keep an eye on the cable prices if you decide to buy Rocksmith. They seem to fluctuate a bit, though Ubisoft has them at their store for $30 right now which is reasonable. The $50 Amazon is asking for is absurd lol.

Edit: Yeah should be fun to play with the kids. A couple Christmases ago I got Rocksmith, a 3/4 scale guitar, and handed down the squier I originally bought (and replaced with a Fender strat) to my nieces. My sister tells me they enjoy it.
 
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ch33zw1z

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yea, the $50 is "trilingual", there's one on Amazon for $37. I will likely make this purchase over the weekend.
 

PJFrylar

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Oh, my bad. I just looked at it real quick and saw "there is a new version of this item" and "Rocksmith 2014" for $50 without actually really checking it. I thought it was a new version of the cable that came out with Rocksmith 2014. Well then it should be the same as the cables I have, which work fine with steam.
 

DigDog

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i got some advice which can really help.

the most important thing is to understand that playing guitar is an activity that has a psychological meaning to people. you need to "get into" playing guitar.

1. get yourself a good guitar, a good amp that is loud enough that you feel the sound, and find yourself a zone where you can play. Be it a room, a garage, anywhere where you can get lost into the guitar.
this will provide many useful hours of connection with the instrument which teach something very different than scales. I like to play commercial rock radio and just figure out songs.

2. get a teacher. it doesn't matter if it's a classical guitar teacher, or a rock teacher. do your scales.

3. i like to do this exercise, which i then improved. 1st finger on F (E), play 1-2-3-4 (E) 1-2-3-4 (A) 1-2-3-4- (D) etc and then back 1-2-3-4 (e) 1-2-3-4 (B) up the strings. These need to be PERFECT.
then mix up the pattern. 1-2-4-3 (E) -1-2-4-3 (A) .. down the strings, up the strings. no pause. perfection is the key.
this really does improve your motor skills a lot.
I also like to sing any exercise that i play. help with building a melody. eventually you get used to it and you can sing something and your fingers will follow what you are singing, and vice versa.

4. get into a band ASAP. perform as soon as you are ready. you need an audience to push you past basic skill.

5. what it comes to gear, dont buy cheap stuff. dont get zooms, rockmans, all in one pedal boards. get a job and buy good gear.

n.4 is important because you don't know what type of guitarist you are yet. it doesn't matter if you, say, love malmsteen, you might not be a malmsteen player. it's not because of skill.
you'll go to your audience, and they will respond to some things you do. and this has an innate, uncontrollable effect on you to push you to do more of that. you don't know if you will be a Muse, or a Hendrix, or a Clapton. you need to find out for yourself.
 
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