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Lifer
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Anyone played powergrid? I'm thinking of getting that or maybe Pandemic, whichever is easier/ more accessible.

Ticket to Ride is great, but a little too simple, maybe I'll get the Europe version.

Power Grid is longer, more complex and more "mathy" than the other games you've mentioned in this thread. It's the kind of game that you ought to be taught to play by an experienced player, otherwise you might feel overwhelmed. There's a lot involved in just "running" the game that an experienced players can do and the rest of the players don't need to care about.

Some advice if you do get it -
- Don't get overwhelmed when you're reading the rules on dealing with the "Step 3" card. The first time you play just wait until that card comes out and then look up what you're supposed to do in the rule book.
- The game ends when someone connects 17 cities, but the winner is the person who powers the most cities on that turn, even if the number is less than 17. That's very important. You don't need to be able to power 17 cities to force the end of the game. And if you have a plant that uses the same resource as an opponent's plant, you could potentially buy enough resources to prevent them from powering all of their plants.
- Turn order is very important. The last place player always has the most advantageous spot in the turn order, and the first place player always has the least advantageous spot. It can be beneficial to hold back at times.
- It's not always beneficial to buy a power plant, especially if doing so could potentially make a better plant available to your opponents. But remember that if nobody buys a power plant, the cheapest plant goes away so the power plant market can't stagnate.
- Because the game ends when 17 or more cities are connected, and because you'd like to be able to power as many cities as possible, and because you can only have 3 power plants, plants that could add up to 17 are "end game" plants. 5s, 6s and 7s are plants that you're probably going to want to have at the end of the game. 4s are borderline.
- Pay attention to the way the resource distribution shifts during the game. It's different for every map. Coal may start out cheap (a lot get added each turn), but at the end of the game when coal production drops you might regret having a coal plant. If people are consuming more coal than is being produced each turn, coal will get more expensive and eventually run out. If a resource runs out and you can't buy enough to power your plant, that could cost you the game. Turn order is important, because last place buys resources first.

Most of what I just said isn't going to make sense until you read the rules at least, and probably not until you play your first game.

Before you think about buying Power Grid you should watch this:
http://boardgamegeek.com/video/1465/power-grid/board-games-with-scott-020-with-designer
Edit: Friedemann was a little unclear about the game ending/winning conditions. You don't need to power 17 cities to win, you only need to power more than anyone else (and of course you have to have connected cities to power them, so if you can power 16 and you've connected 15, you only power 15)

And read the rules: http://www.riograndegames.com/games.html?id=5


Pandemic is a good game. It's cooperative, so it's more like solving a puzzle together.

Ticket to Ride Marklin is the best TTR game IMO.
 
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ivan2

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bought pentago recently at target. it's pretty fun, except that at the beginning usually someone won't even know that they've won the game.
 

Possessed Freak

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Power Grid is longer, more complex and more "mathy" than the other games you've mentioned in this thread. It's the kind of game that you ought to be taught to play by an experienced player, otherwise you might feel overwhelmed. There's a lot involved in just "running" the game that an experienced players can do and the rest of the players don't need to care about.
I don't consider Power Grid to be that complex. It is the management of 4 crucial resources... money/powerplants/raw materials/cities. In comparison to La Havre or Agricola or other more in depth games Power Grid is light!

Pandemic is a good game. It's cooperative, so it's more like solving a puzzle together.
Pandemic in our group is hysterical. As we are very competitive and individually goal oriented, we do poorly in cooperative games!

Ticket to Ride Marklin is the best TTR game IMO.
Agreed.
 

datalink7

Lifer
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Anyone played powergrid? I'm thinking of getting that or maybe Pandemic, whichever is easier/ more accessible.

Ticket to Ride is great, but a little too simple, maybe I'll get the Europe version.

Pandemic is a lot of fun. I own power grid but haven't played it yet. I heard it is a lot of fun but I'm sure Pandemic is far more accessible.

I own Ticket to Ride but don't really like it. It was too simplistic and the theme didn't grab me at all. But I know a lot of people do like it.
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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One of my friends is home for the holidays and brought with him Race For The Galaxy - took a while to learn how everything worked, but it's a fun game and it seems that most games won't take more than 45-60 minutes meaning that despite being limited to 4 players, you can rotate people in quite often.
 

zebano

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I recently played Ticket to Ride which was ok. I also played Pirates Cove... I was a little underwhelmed though it was a nice change from Settlers (what our group usually plays). I've also played Settlers: Struggle for Rome which I like because dice seems slightly less important in resource gathering (because your roll more times it's less likely that you get starved) though there's still plenty of luck based on what happens after you attack a city. Overall none of these blew me away, I will have to try Pandemic.
 

BoberFett

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Out of curiosity, for those who have played Pandemic a fair number of times, what is your win ratio like? I've played quite a few times, with between 2 and 4 players, and my win ratio is horrible. Sometimes it's a crappy character draw, like a two player game with the Dispatcher and Operations Expert which we should have simply redrawn. Other times it's back to back Epidemic cards causing cascading outbreaks. The concepts in the game are simple to pick up, but my win ratio is 1:5 or worse.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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One of my friends is home for the holidays and brought with him Race For The Galaxy - took a while to learn how everything worked, but it's a fun game and it seems that most games won't take more than 45-60 minutes meaning that despite being limited to 4 players, you can rotate people in quite often.

Race for the Galaxy is excellent, definitely one of my top strategy card games.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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Played -

Agricola
Carcassonne
Chaos in the Old World
Pandemic
Powergrid
Puerto Rico
Small World
Starbase Jeff
 

Possessed Freak

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Out of curiosity, for those who have played Pandemic a fair number of times, what is your win ratio like? I've played quite a few times, with between 2 and 4 players, and my win ratio is horrible. Sometimes it's a crappy character draw, like a two player game with the Dispatcher and Operations Expert which we should have simply redrawn. Other times it's back to back Epidemic cards causing cascading outbreaks. The concepts in the game are simple to pick up, but my win ratio is 1:5 or worse.
We only play on the hardest difficulty, and the win ratio is pretty crappy on that. We at least have a chance if we have the dispatcher and the medic in the original series. There are some interesting characters in the expansion that I have not played enough to have a feel for yet.
 

JTsyo

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Nov 18, 2007
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I don't consider Power Grid to be that complex. It is the management of 4 crucial resources... money/powerplants/raw materials/cities. In comparison to La Havre or Agricola or other more in depth games Power Grid is light!


Pandemic in our group is hysterical. As we are very competitive and individually goal oriented, we do poorly in cooperative games!


Agreed.

I didn't find powergrid very hard either. We had picked up the expansion card set that moved the game along faster.
 
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