Anyone into R/C planes? Want to start and need direction....

Meghan54

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Looking to get into the R/C plane hobby and just don't want to waste money buying too low/cheap/etc. Pointers as to good brands, resources (the net is rife with R/C, but who to trust>), etc.

I've got the space in my backyard to fly a decent sized plane, so that's no problem!

Thanks!
 

jaedaliu

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Was into RC cars, never flew planes.

From what I've been told, Great Planes makes good kits. RC can be a very pricey hobby, especially when you bump into things.

With my RC car experience, I would have been very very lost without friends giving me advice. If there's a hobby store local to you, seek their advice. The prices may be slightly high, but they'll be a lot of help.
 

Midwayman

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I fly planes. How big is your backyard really? Most won't support more than a micro plane and I wouldn't tell a n00b to buy one. As for what to buy- get a parkzone plane. They're not the cheapest, but reliable. The cub would be a good place to start. Multiplex easystar is another popular starter place.
 

Meghan54

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I fly planes. How big is your backyard really? Most won't support more than a micro plane and I wouldn't tell a n00b to buy one. As for what to buy- get a parkzone plane. They're not the cheapest, but reliable. The cub would be a good place to start. Multiplex easystar is another popular starter place.


Can you fly in a football field? That's a tad smaller than what I have for a backyard, no wires, no trees.

And thx for the suggestions. Off to look at some.
 

Midwayman

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Can you fly in a football field? That's a tad smaller than what I have for a backyard, no wires, no trees.

And thx for the suggestions. Off to look at some.

Football field is no problem. Its worthwhile to buy a plane and a radio separately if you're relatively sure you'll like it. The RTF radios never have model memory and very limited trims, etc. You'll want a better computer radio very shortly. I have a Dx6i radio. Its nothing special, but worlds better than the dx5 that commonly comes in kits.
 

Thebobo

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Imo best to find a club in you local area to help you learn.
http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx

Personally I like to fly RC sailplanes specifically hand launch, or discus launch gliders. Nothing like throwing your plane up to catch thermals. I do fly 3+ meter, electrics and slope they are all fun.

If I were learning to fly again I would get this electric glider. Seen lots of folks learn on this plane it really is amazing for the price.
 

mmntech

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I flew RC planes for 10 years until a variety of factors convinced me to leave the hobby. It was getting too expensive for one, planes required constant maintenance, and the club I belonged too started getting very unfriendly. I do the cars now. Just lost the passion for flying.

Anyway...

You'll want to start with a nitro or electric trainer plane. Wing mounted high with a flat bottomed airfoil for stability. Electric can have a higher up front cost but its cleaner than nitro and requires less maintenance. I can't really recommend a trainer as I don't know what's the best on the market anymore. If you're a beginner, make sure you go to a decent local hobby shop with a knowledgeable staff. They'll be able to point you in the right direction. I do highly recommend going the electric route though for beginners. So much easier.

For electric, you will need...
-A trainer plane (duh), Bigger planes tend to be more stable. Don't be tempted to buy anything other than a trainer as they are too difficult for beginners and you will crash it. Get one that already has servos installed.
-LiPo batteries, probably 3S. Capacity depends on size of the plane. You'll want at least two packs. Make sure they have balance leads. I get them from HobbyKing. They come from China but they're not bad quality. A lot cheaper than here. Markup on batteries is ridiculous at North American hobby shops.
-LiPo charger and Balancer. I use the Electrifly Triton Jr though there's probably newer ones. Some chargers have a balancer built in. If it doesn't you can get external ones. They go between the charger and battery, and make sure each cell is charged to the same voltage. Prevents premature wear.
-2.4ghz radio. Some planes come with them as part of the kit. Make sure it's 2.4ghz. The only 72mhz is obsolete. They still sell them but they're not safe to use anymore IMO. If you buy separately, most of the major brands (Futaba, JR, Spektrum, Hitec) are all good. Get at least a 4ch. Though if you get a 6ch, it will be good for 99% of what you will do in the future if you continue in the hobby. Most radios come with rechargable battery packs. If they don't and it just takes AAs, just buy some rechargable ones from Walmart or something.
-12v 5A DC bench power supply. One that has terminals for banana plugs and alligator clips. Most electronic supply stores sell these. Very handy for charging batteries as a lot of field chargers are DC only.
-Tools. You'll need a set of screw drivers (Phillips) hex drivers (I recommend one of these), needle nose players, blue lock-tight, socket set, x-acto knife, CA glue, epoxy, and a soldering iron.

That's all I can think of for now.

For nitro, you will need...
-Trainer plane. .40 ones. I always used to like the Hobbico ones. If they still make the Avistar, I always felt that was the best. Most ARF (almost ready to fly) trainers come with a two stroke engine and the appropriate propeller. If not, the hobby shop staff can tell you what you need. They also usually come with their own servos and battery if you don't want to screw around with building.
-2.4ghz radio, as above
-Glow fuel. 10% nitro is good enough for beginners. Comes in pink or green. Only difference is oil type. Pink is castor oil, green is synthetic. I've used both oils and I can't tell the difference.
-Glow ignition. Looks like a metal stick with battery on the top. Heats the plug.
-Spare glow plug, look for #8 or A3 plugs. I like the hotter A3 myself but #8 works well.
-Electric glow starter. Turns the prop with a big ol' electric starter. Safer than the old chicken stick method IMO.
-12V utility battery to power the starter motor.
-Anchor to hold the plane when running up the engine. Big screw driver (use it as a stake in the ground) and a bungie cord will do.
-Tools. Same as you'd have for electric
-Windex and paper towel for cleaning your model at the end of the day. Nitro engines don't burn the oil so planes get quite slimy after a few flights.

Once again, I think that's all.

Next step is to get an AMA membership if you're in the US. It provides liability insurance if you crash and injure someone or damage property. Then you need to join a club with a decent training program. Experienced pilots will check over your plane and teach you the basics of how to fly safely and how to maintain your model. Going through a good training program is key to having a good experience. If you go out on you're own, you're guaranteed to crash.
 

Doppel

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Start with electric. Nitro is dying, though some who still do it won't admit it Electric is easier, cleaner, more reliable, quieter, cheaper to get into.
 

mmntech

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Start with electric. Nitro is dying, though some who still do it won't admit it Electric is easier, cleaner, more reliable, quieter, cheaper to get into.

A lot of the old timers swear by it. These are the same folks who freaked out when 2.4ghz came out, and kept insisting we impounded our radios.

Electric has come a very long way since I first started. Power and flight times match nitro now. The only difference is higher up front cost due to the lipos. But that's quickly recouped by not using nitro fuel, which has gotten quite expensive lately.
 

Doppel

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A lot of the old timers swear by it. These are the same folks who freaked out when 2.4ghz came out, and kept insisting we impounded our radios.

Electric has come a very long way since I first started. Power and flight times match nitro now. The only difference is higher up front cost due to the lipos. But that's quickly recouped by not using nitro fuel, which has gotten quite expensive lately.
I started just after 2.4 ghz came along and so never had to put up with FM, though I have an FM helicopter. I've not flown in a few years. I may get back to it, as I really enjoyed not only it but also building, and scratch built a few pretty good planes. Aerial photography was cool and I thought earlier this year of building a quad copter for it. Ultimately I'd like one that can be auto-piloted with GPS way points but apparently it's still more expensive to do that than I want to get into. But, hey if the gov is doing it I want to do it to my neighbors, too.
 

JulesMaximus

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A lot of the old timers swear by it. These are the same folks who freaked out when 2.4ghz came out, and kept insisting we impounded our radios.

Electric has come a very long way since I first started. Power and flight times match nitro now. The only difference is higher up front cost due to the lipos. But that's quickly recouped by not using nitro fuel, which has gotten quite expensive lately.

There are a few clubs around here that meet and fly helicopters. None of them use nitro, they are all electric. Same with the planes I've seen flying.

By the way, don't ever make the mistake of putting Nitro fuel in your car's windshield washer reservoir. Don't ask me how I know about this...
 

Kaido

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I've been into R/C planes since I was a kid. I would recommend 2 things:

1. Get a good flight sim game with an actual remote control:

The physics are so good now that you can really get a good feel for learning how to fly (takeoff, landings, and maneuvers). Spend a lot of time when you're bored or on rainy days or lunchbreaks practicing. It really helps out a bunch! Real Flight is popular and has an actual remote control joystick:

http://www.realflight.com/interlink.html

It's not cheap though ($180):

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Planes-R.../dp/B009L8KXAO

There's plenty of other, less expensive options out there, so google around. If you're neffing on AT, spend a couple minutes doing a takeoff, figure 8, and landing. Over time you'll get a good feel for things and that will help you out a LOT in real life, without having to crash parts that cost money so much


2. Get a basic airplane to learn on. I would recommend a Micro Stik:

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/micro_stik_rtf_532848_prd1.htm

The Micro Stik has a lot of benefits:

1. It's very cheap ($79, which is cheap for a full R/C airplane setup)
2. It includes everything (airplane, remote control, and batteries)
3. It's already built (basically start flying as soon as the battery is done charging)
4. You won't cry when you break it (like you would a more expensive setup)
5. It is small and quiet (it's electric and small enough to fly in a field anywhere)

I mean, you can really get whatever and start learning, but you're going to crash a lot, so you want a test mule for getting a feel for things. You can stop by on the way home at any soccer or baseball field and spend 15 minutes flying around every day, it's great!


Other stuff:

Going beyond that, E-Flite has a lot of neat stuff, especially with slightly-more-indestructible foam airplanes:

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Airplanes/

Spektrum makes the best remote controls imo. You used to have to buy crystals and not overlap your frequencies (think like walkie talkies) with other fliers, now it's all more or less digital with better range. Plus you can use it on all of your airplanes eventually, rather than just one:

http://www.spektrumrc.com/

If you would like to venture into helicopters, I would highly recommend the Blade CX2:

http://www.bladehelis.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH1250

It's larger than your little $20 fall-apart toys and has dual rotors for more stability. As far as airplanes go, you'll start to identify what you like. You can do scale models that look realistic, but they usually fly like crap. You can do crazy 3D airplanes that can hover vertically, you can do trainers that are just fun to fly, you can build them from scratch or buy them pre-built. Lots of options. I don't usually recommend NitroPlanes.com because they look cool but usually don't fly well (the scale look vs. actual flyability issue again).

Anyway. Pick up some training software and get a cheapo airplane and just go fly all the time!
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Thanks one and all for the massive amt. of info. Greatly appreciated!

I've been itching to get back into flying. I toyed around with it when Cox was the dominant brand...kinda shows how old I am. Never got to use wireless, tho. It came around big after I left the "hobby", such as it was back then.

Now, to keep my head from exploding, I'm going to read a while and pull for the Braves to win #13 in a row.
 

xgsound

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Absolutely find a local flying field. Find it through a hobby shop or club. AMA membership (you get insurance too) will probably be required to fly at any decent field. Club search from above link. http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx

At a field you can see what you would prefer, what is supported locally, and you may find a used setup you like.

Build them, prefab, electric, nitro, Zenoah, or gliders; they're all a lot of fun and you meet interesting people.

Jim
 

RossMAN

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I've been into R/C planes since I was a kid. I would recommend 2 things:

1. Get a good flight sim game with an actual remote control:

The physics are so good now that you can really get a good feel for learning how to fly (takeoff, landings, and maneuvers). Spend a lot of time when you're bored or on rainy days or lunchbreaks practicing. It really helps out a bunch! Real Flight is popular and has an actual remote control joystick:

http://www.realflight.com/interlink.html

It's not cheap though ($180):

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Planes-R.../dp/B009L8KXAO

There's plenty of other, less expensive options out there, so google around. If you're neffing on AT, spend a couple minutes doing a takeoff, figure 8, and landing. Over time you'll get a good feel for things and that will help you out a LOT in real life, without having to crash parts that cost money so much


2. Get a basic airplane to learn on. I would recommend a Micro Stik:

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/micro_stik_rtf_532848_prd1.htm

The Micro Stik has a lot of benefits:

1. It's very cheap ($79, which is cheap for a full R/C airplane setup)
2. It includes everything (airplane, remote control, and batteries)
3. It's already built (basically start flying as soon as the battery is done charging)
4. You won't cry when you break it (like you would a more expensive setup)
5. It is small and quiet (it's electric and small enough to fly in a field anywhere)

I mean, you can really get whatever and start learning, but you're going to crash a lot, so you want a test mule for getting a feel for things. You can stop by on the way home at any soccer or baseball field and spend 15 minutes flying around every day, it's great!


Other stuff:

Going beyond that, E-Flite has a lot of neat stuff, especially with slightly-more-indestructible foam airplanes:

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Airplanes/

Spektrum makes the best remote controls imo. You used to have to buy crystals and not overlap your frequencies (think like walkie talkies) with other fliers, now it's all more or less digital with better range. Plus you can use it on all of your airplanes eventually, rather than just one:

http://www.spektrumrc.com/

If you would like to venture into helicopters, I would highly recommend the Blade CX2:

http://www.bladehelis.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH1250

It's larger than your little $20 fall-apart toys and has dual rotors for more stability. As far as airplanes go, you'll start to identify what you like. You can do scale models that look realistic, but they usually fly like crap. You can do crazy 3D airplanes that can hover vertically, you can do trainers that are just fun to fly, you can build them from scratch or buy them pre-built. Lots of options. I don't usually recommend NitroPlanes.com because they look cool but usually don't fly well (the scale look vs. actual flyability issue again).

Anyway. Pick up some training software and get a cheapo airplane and just go fly all the time!

You always post such great and helpful replies like this, I don't know how in the world you're not Elite status.

/me sends an e-mail to Anand.
 

bryanl

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Look for rechargeable batteries for both the transmitter and the receiver, and don't assume alkalines can be substituted with NiMHs since the voltage for the latter may be too low.

In the olden days beginners were told to get a high-wing plane 5 feet across for stability, but now R/C systems have automatic stability control that makes it much easier to fly very small planes and even helicoptors.
 

Midwayman

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Start with electric. Nitro is dying, though some who still do it won't admit it Electric is easier, cleaner, more reliable, quieter, cheaper to get into.

Nitro is only worthwhile for very large scale planes anymore. Too much hassle and mess for your normal park flyer type planes. Plus electric is much much easier for a n00b.
 

EagleKeeper

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Start small with a 3 channel unit that you can afford to replace.

After that is ruined (and it will be); decide if you want to continue; use another premade one or roll your own.

After you get proficient; then get a third unit with a bigger engine; more channels and more fun.

It can be fun to roll your own and potentially make modifications to the plans.
 
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