Question Anyone knows when the New Xeons coming out?

[Markeyse]

Hello everyone! I'm in the process for planning my next workstation build, and At first I had a configuration that includes an LGA3467 motherboard with Xeon W chips. But it seems as those are being discontinued, and I can't find the motherboard or chips anywhere anymore.

I've heard that Intel releasing some new Xeons with socket LGA4189 chips, with PCIe 4.0 & 5.0, but can't find much info as when those are coming out, and since I'm doing a lot of Music creating and now some CAD work, I need things like ECC RDIMM RAM. Anyone have any info, or at least an even that they will announce them? Help is much appreciated.

 

[Hitman928]

Interesting! Not what I'm looking for though, but these are coming with PCIe 4.0.

Intel Xeon Refresh: New Cascade Lake Refresh CPUs up to 60 Percent Cheaper Per Core

Intel takes an axe to pricing

www.tomshardware.com

I think you're misreading the parts about pcie4. That's still exclusive to AMD for now.

 

[Markeyse]

I think you're misreading the parts about pcie4. That's still exclusive to AMD for now.

It was late.

But I know they coming out with some stuff this year.

 

[Micrornd]

Still a Server Board, but looks clean as hell. You can probably run a GPU on the last slot.

Not sure why you say that?
It is what you make it, any board can be a server board or a workstation board.
It sounds like you are looking for a gamer board?

 

[Adonisds]

Why did they start calling them "scalable" processors? What does that mean?

 

[Markeyse]

Not sure why you say that?
It is what you make it, any board can be a server board or a workstation board.
It sounds like you are looking for a gamer board?

Meh. I'm just looking for a board that is best for media creation. I posted what I was looking at on an earlier post for a reference to what I'm looking at.

Why did they start calling them "scalable" processors? What does that mean?

Because they can "Scale". HAHAH. So you can connect between 2-8 CPU's together. But for my needs on the Intel side, the Xeon-W's would be the best. Only single socket and better clocks. Now Intel is releasing the new Xeon Scalables, and they are on a great price point. So I'm also waiting to see what they do.

 

[sdifox]

Why did they start calling them "scalable" processors? What does that mean?

Intel ripping off Sun SPARC which stands for Scalable Processing Architecture.

 

[moinmoin]

Why did they start calling them "scalable" processors?

It was pretty funny when they introduced it right when AMD announced Epyc. "There is a server chip that scales across four dies on a single package. But better look here instead, this is a server chip that has Scalable in its name!"

 

[jpiniero]

Why did they start calling them "scalable" processors? What does that mean?

Scalable profits.

 

[joesiv]

I think it was all about scaling to multiple processor sockets. The funny thing about the refresh is that they have less scaling, no longer can they scale to 4 or 8 sockets, but only do 2 sockets I believe.

 

[Adonisds]

I think it was all about scaling to multiple processor sockets. The funny thing about the refresh is that they have less scaling, no longer can they scale to 4 or 8 sockets, but only do 2 sockets I believe.

Could it not "scale" before it was called scalable? Weren't supercomputers made with thousands of Xeons?

 

[Markeyse]

I think it was all about scaling to multiple processor sockets. The funny thing about the refresh is that they have less scaling, no longer can they scale to 4 or 8 sockets, but only do 2 sockets I believe.

Certain skus can do 8 sockets. Not all of them. Never been more than two or four for most of them.

 

[scannall]

Could it not "scale" before it was called scalable? Weren't supercomputers made with thousands of Xeons?

Different thing. Supercomputers are made up of a bunch of servers, with really fast inter-connects between them. Each server will have a motherboard with 2, 4 or 8 CPU's on it.

 

[jpiniero]

I think it was all about scaling to multiple processor sockets. The funny thing about the refresh is that they have less scaling, no longer can they scale to 4 or 8 sockets, but only do 2 sockets I believe.

Intel changed the branding to (try to) hide the price increases from Broadwell to Skylake. If you wanted basically the highest performance, you had to buy Plat when in the past you could have bought E5 but were limited to 2S. Cascade Lake Refresh goes back to the old way.

Cooper Lake is pretty likely to be 2S only.

 

[Markeyse]

Seems like AMD had some Price cuts!

AMD Epyc Rome 7302P | Newegg.com

 

[sdifox]

Seems like AMD had some Price cuts!

AMD Epyc Rome 7302P | Newegg.com

MSRP is 825

 

[Markeyse]

MSRP is 825

sdifox is it really!? So Newegg overcharging?

 

[sdifox]

sdifox is it really!? So Newegg overcharging?

I don't know if you can call it overcharging. You don't have to buy from newegg.

 

[Markeyse]

I don't know if you can call it overcharging. You don't have to buy from newegg.

Where do you buy stuff from?

 

[sdifox]

Where do you buy stuff from?

try tech data or synnex. but you do need to setup accounts.
Ingram Micro USA also has it listed though price not shown.

These processors are usually not in the retail channel.

also, that 825 figure may be the tray version and not PIB (processor in box)

and those are definitely slower to make it into retail channel.

 

[Markeyse]

try tech data or synnex. but you do need to setup accounts.
Ingram Micro USA also has it listed though price not shown.

These processors are usually not in the retail channel.

also, that 825 figure may be the tray version and not PIB (processor in box)

and those are definitely slower to make it into retail channel.

I can care less if it is in a box as long as it is packaged correctly. But we shall see.

 

[Markeyse]

I mean, they don't usually come with coolers anyway, and most the time I use a different cooler.

 

[joshep45]

Hello everyone! I'm in the process for planning my next workstation build, and At first I had a configuration that includes an LGA3467 motherboard with Xeon W chips. But it seems as those are being discontinued, and I can't find the motherboard or chips anywhere anymore.

I've heard that Intel releasing some new Xeons with socket LGA4189 chips, with PCIe 4.0 & 5.0, but can't find much info as when those are coming out, and since I'm doing a lot of Music creating and now some CAD work, I need things like ECC RDIMM RAM. Anyone have any info, or at least an even that they will announce them? Help is much appreciated.

Hello! I heard the news that INTEL is going to launch new Xeons at the end of this year. I got this information from Facebook. I'm waiting for it too. But after that, I didn't find any information about it.

 

[Markeyse]

Hello! I heard the news that INTEL is going to launch new Xeons at the end of this year. I got this information from Facebook. I'm waiting for it too. But after that, I didn't find any information about it.

We shall see. I'm hearing something in the realm of having 90 Lanes of PCIe 4.0, even higher clock speed, and more cores. I'm not sure if this will use the new socket, LGA4189, but we shall see.

 

[sdifox]

We shall see. I'm hearing something in the realm of having 90 Lanes of PCIe 4.0, even higher clock speed, and more cores. I'm not sure if this will use the new socket, LGA4189, but we shall see.

Epyc Milan will be out by then. Exciting times.

 

[Markeyse]

Epyc Milan will be out by then. Exciting times.

sdifox Exciting Times Indeed! Heck I should rename this post to Workstation CPU watch hahahaha