Anyone on Windows 10 yet (how are drivers/stability)?

[wand3r3r]

How stable is windows 10 & games with AMD drivers?

It's only a matter of weeks and it'll be out, I'm debating upgrading now. Generally I'd like to dual boot but I would like to just try the upgrade (and later do a format/installation).

My main concern is about games & driver stability.

Is anyone using crossfire on Windows 10?

I'm not interested in "opinions" about XP,7,8.1,10 and why you are sitting on XP so please stick to objective data and rationale (and experience about 10).

My current interests at the moment are probably Witcher 3, Civ, and BF4 as well as some older games.

 

[flopper]

no official drivers until RTM and 29 of July earliest.
wait...

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I've been playing the crap out of Sleeping Dogs the past week on Win10. I haven't had a single problem other than performance not really being what I'd like. I've read the Radeon drivers automatically installed in Win10 are a different branch with better CPU overhead improvements, but I'm pretty sure my Q6600 @ 3Ghz is still holding me back since I rarely see my 7850's GPU usage break 90%. I'm not sure it's not worth just waiting for RTM at this point though, the only reason I went to Win10 now is because the game is 64-bit only and my old Windows install was 32-bit.

 

[Despoiler]

Win10 is great. It's been stable enough for daily use since 10130. I'm on 10162 and they just keep adding polish and quashing bugs.

I haven't had any issues with drivers. I've used the ones that come with the updates as well as loaded in modded drivers from Guru3d. Currently using the latest packaged with 10162 (15.200.1023.7). Fast, smooth, stable.

I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade now. The upgrade process is pretty slick and surprisingly fast these days. I did end up doing a format and fresh install, but that was only because I upgraded from 10122. 10122 was replaced by 10130 because of some serious bugs in the upgrade process, which unfortunately did not resolve themselves for me even after installing newer builds. You can also revert back to whatever Windows version you came from and it works flawlessly. It's very low risk these days.

 

[wand3r3r]

Thanks for the info everyone.

Win10 is great. It's been stable enough for daily use since 10130. I'm on 10162 and they just keep adding polish and quashing bugs.

I haven't had any issues with drivers. I've used the ones that come with the updates as well as loaded in modded drivers from Guru3d. Currently using the latest packaged with 10162 (15.200.1023.7). Fast, smooth, stable.

I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade now. The upgrade process is pretty slick and surprisingly fast these days. I did end up doing a format and fresh install, but that was only because I upgraded from 10122. 10122 was replaced by 10130 because of some serious bugs in the upgrade process, which unfortunately did not resolve themselves for me even after installing newer builds. You can also revert back to whatever Windows version you came from and it works flawlessly. It's very low risk these days.

Great, I'm going to give it a whirl since it can be reversed! I wasn't aware of that.

Edit: Never mind, it's only an option to reserve the upgrade. I can't upgrade yet so I guess I'm waiting for the 29th.

 

[Despoiler]

Thanks for the info everyone.



Great, I'm going to give it a whirl since it can be reversed! I wasn't aware of that.

Edit: Never mind, it's only an option to reserve the upgrade. I can't upgrade yet so I guess I'm waiting for the 29th.

Sorry I should have specified that I did the upgrade from the Windows Update method in order to be able to revert back. I'm an Insider so I'm not sure if you can get a hold of the file that adds Win10 as a Windows update without being one.

 

[destrekor]

Thanks for the info everyone.



Great, I'm going to give it a whirl since it can be reversed! I wasn't aware of that.

Edit: Never mind, it's only an option to reserve the upgrade. I can't upgrade yet so I guess I'm waiting for the 29th.

Sorry I should have specified that I did the upgrade from the Windows Update method in order to be able to revert back. I'm an Insider so I'm not sure if you can get a hold of the file that adds Win10 as a Windows update without being one.

If you join the Windows Insider program, you should be able to get the latest build through Windows Update. I might be wrong though, as I always grabbed the ISOs due to installing in VMs.

Also, in regards to reverting back to a previous Windows installation: isn't that using Recovery Media to technically reinstall? I feel that should be pointed out, it's not just a quick Undo button AFAIK. It is a fairly painless procedure and as long as you backup everything, the recovery process is fantastic.

You could even do a complete Recovery Image backup, which is basically like installing an image, everything is preserved perfectly; that route, however, obviously includes replacing any new files with whatever is on the image.

I think using the Recovery Media route basically reinstalls Windows on top of itself with whatever version is on the installation media, but does so while preserving using files, settings, and everything associated with installs programs. However, while Windows has been excellent with regards to reinstallations and upgrades, there is no guarantee that there won't be quirks.

I felt it important to note that, because that should always be in the back of your mind. It is almost guaranteed to be a pain-free process that brings you back to how you want it, but if past upgrades (including the one to Windows 10) introduced any quirks in the system, they may live on. A Recovery Image (using Windows Backup) basically guarantees everything is as it was, but you just have to be take care of any file and program changes made between the backup creation date and when you choose to utilize it.

 

[destrekor]

So after doing some more sleuthing, I did discover the Rollback feature - but I do previously remember running into that before, and noted it as only to rollback to a previous Preview build.

However, if you do it right from the start, you could make it work to restore previous versions entirely. But if you have updated to new builds and never followed the process to backup the windows.old file/directory, this won't work at all, and you'll have to use the Recovery method.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...original/76b6750c-5bb2-40bc-a7e3-f03cec62338b

 

[Despoiler]

So after doing some more sleuthing, I did discover the Rollback feature - but I do previously remember running into that before, and noted it as only to rollback to a previous Preview build.

However, if you do it right from the start, you could make it work to restore previous versions entirely. But if you have updated to new builds and never followed the process to backup the windows.old file/directory, this won't work at all, and you'll have to use the Recovery method.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...original/76b6750c-5bb2-40bc-a7e3-f03cec62338b

Yes I don't know if the rollback to the previous OS would work if you updated to Win10 and then updated to new Win10 build. However, you should be able to determine if Win10 is a keeper after some daily use. My original attempt was 9962 I rolled back to Win7 within a day. Again, it was quick and flawless.

 

[Stuka87]

I have Win10 running (on build 10162 now), I really like it. But no official drivers yet.

 

[Despoiler]

I have Win10 running (on build 10162 now), I really like it. But no official drivers yet.

What do you mean "no official drivers". The newest drivers were released with the newest build. I've gotten several stand alone driver updates on previous builds.

 

[spinejam]

Running 10162 as well. Like it so far - no complaints from me.

 

[FalseChristian]

I'm running Windows 10 Pro Build 10525 with nVidia's 355.60 drivers and all works well`except for SLI glitches.

 

[alexruiz]

I am already on windows 10.
Assorted video cards (R9 270Xs, A10-7850ks, R9 290) running catalyst 15.7.1

Gaming is stable, and maybe this is subjective, but the framerates feel more fluid, with the lows being higher.

 

[destrekor]

Gaming is stable, and maybe this is subjective, but the framerates feel more fluid, with the lows being higher.

There are so many things that can actually impact that feeling, because in there there could have been frame timing issues that caused a laggy feel at times. I've experienced this, have corrected it, have had it pop up on its own again and had to change settings that were previously made to fix it in the first place.

It's one aspect of advanced computing that is still a pain in the rear: there is no "one shot one kill" sweeping approach to this, many things are both right and wrong depending on the specific system.

I've had to change BIOS settings and the system timers. Sucks having to resort to those kinds of edits, what ends up being the Windows default should very much be the best fit for the system.

Perhaps the defaults were changed with your upgrade, or perhaps the kernel's changes make it better able to work with the combination of drivers and system settings. So many variables, it's hard to even begin making any firm guesses.

 

[Red Hawk]

I've been playing the Mass Effect games on Windows 10. No stability issues. There are pesky z-fighting issues, but those already existed on Windows 7 and 8 for me. Also, Mass Effect 2 didn't seem to like alt-tabbing out of the game, though Windows 10's virtual desktop feature actually helped in this regard. Upon alt-tabbing I would get a "Display driver has recovered" notification, but it didn't crash the game, and I could go straight back into it.

I've also tried the Star Swarm demo; oddly, it has stability and crashing issues in Mantle but not in DirectX 11 mode. I've tried this on both my PC with my 290X and my brother's PC with a 260X, both tend to crash midway through the Mantle benchmark. I didn't try the Star Swarm demo until both PCs were updated to Windows 10, so I have no idea if the Star Swarm demo would have had stability issues in Windows 7 or 8.

I have one Mantle game, Dragon Age Inquisition, that I played a lot in Windows 8. I should probably test to see if it has stability issues now in Windows 10, but I haven't gotten around to it.

 

[alexruiz]

There are so many things that can actually impact that feeling, because in there there could have been frame timing issues that caused a laggy feel at times. I've experienced this, have corrected it, have had it pop up on its own again and had to change settings that were previously made to fix it in the first place.

It's one aspect of advanced computing that is still a pain in the rear: there is no "one shot one kill" sweeping approach to this, many things are both right and wrong depending on the specific system.

I've had to change BIOS settings and the system timers. Sucks having to resort to those kinds of edits, what ends up being the Windows default should very much be the best fit for the system.

Perhaps the defaults were changed with your upgrade, or perhaps the kernel's changes make it better able to work with the combination of drivers and system settings. So many variables, it's hard to even begin making any firm guesses.

Everything stayed the same, no BIOS changes. Programs installed with the same settings.
The most revealing one of this perceived "smoothness" was 3DMark firestrike combined test. This one brings even the strongest PCs to low fps, and while the absolute numbers stayed close between Win 8.1 and Win10, the sequence on win 10 looked more fluid...

Might be placebo effect, but I feel that the games are smoother, and while the average numbers are similar, the minimums seem higher.

ps. Clean install of win10

 

[phantom404]

Running xfire 290s with free sync on windows 10 and no problems whatsoever. Xfire seems to work really well. I'll agree with everyone else in that games seem to run more fluid then they did over on windows 8.

 

[guskline]

Have 2 R9 290s in CF in rig 2 below with NO problems.

 

[Noctifer616]

7970 here, no problems so far.

 

[n0x1ous]

alls good on 15.7.1 on Fury X

 

[h9826790]

Dual 7950 CF, works very well so far, no crash during game or benchmark.

 

[lord_emperor]

FX-8310@4.2 & R9 290

Upgraded through Windows Update, reinstalled drivers, no issues.

Small performance improvement in synthetic benchmarks, no noticeable difference in-game.

 

[Zstream]

So far, so good. Running a 270x here.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Very stable, no problems at all, 7970 (second rig)