Anyone own Zombieland Blu Ray?

[MrGrim999]

Hey guys. I recently upgraded my home theater system and I'm trying to make sure my subwoofer is functioning correctly with my receiver. I'm using the Yamaha v377, SVS PB-1000, and Klipsch Quintet 5.0 satellite speakers. I've been reading in the forums about alot of people having issues with their yamaha receiver and subwoofer. I've been playing blu rays and seeing how the sub reacts to action scenes. I figure a quick way to find out is by comparing with someone playing the same blu ray. For example, there are a few parts in the movie Zombieland when it starts playing music. I would expect my sub to kick in but who knows maybe there's no low frequency sounds being sent. Obviously, it's a huge project disconnecting everything from the receiver , buying another, reconnecting and testing again so I figured I'd see if anyone from here would be able to help me....

 

[JackBurton]

I have Zomebieland on BD.

 

[MustISO]

If you want to know if your sub/receiver is working properly try one of these discs/scenes:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...master-list-bass-movies-frequency-charts.html

Have you confirmed that the speakers and sub crossover/phase are set properly?

 

[MrGrim999]

I have Zomebieland on BD.

Awesome! You using a 5.1 surround system? If so, could you tell me if your subwoofer kicks in at 30:00 when they find the hummer and the Van Halen song starts playing. On my end its mostly coming out of my satellites....

 

[MrGrim999]

If you want to know if your sub/receiver is working properly try one of these discs/scenes:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...master-list-bass-movies-frequency-charts.html

Have you confirmed that the speakers and sub crossover/phase are set properly?

Thanks for that list! Exactly what I was looking for with the timestamps!! Yes, crossover settings are definitely good on both the subwoofer and the receiver settings. I've been using a HTIB for many years so this is my first time with quality equipment hehe. My sub is definitely working, I'm just making sure its working 100%. There are scenes where you would think the subwoofer would kick in but who knows. I'll definitely test it with that list. Thanks alot!

 

[skriefal]

Awesome! You using a 5.1 surround system? If so, could you tell me if your subwoofer kicks in at 30:00 when they find the hummer and the Van Halen song starts playing. On my end its mostly coming out of my satellites....

There's little or no subwoofer content at that point.

 

[MrGrim999]

There's little or no subwoofer content at that point.

Ok cool thanks alot. That list is showing me they dont use those low frequencies too often. I just assumed subwoofers would be used at any chance available..

 

[MrGrim999]

If you want to know if your sub/receiver is working properly try one of these discs/scenes:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...master-list-bass-movies-frequency-charts.html

Have you confirmed that the speakers and sub crossover/phase are set properly?

Thanks again MustISO!! You just solved my problem that I've been toying with since hooking up the sub hehe. Honestly, I just assumed the sub would be taken advantage of and used whenever possible. I'm curious why these sound engineers don't take full advantage and assign low frequency for the subs for when music is played or every action scene...

 

[skriefal]

Because that would be highly unrealistic. And even if the lack of realism doesn't bother the listener ("it's just a movie!" as many say), the over-use of bass would get tiring very quickly. There are some movies that do this. They're usually bad movies. "Pulse" is one that comes to mind...

 

[MongGrel]

I had forgotten that movie and need to watch it again.

Is pretty good for grins and giggles.

 

[MongGrel]

Mine never seem to kick out, I have a y cable running from the main receiver sub outlet to an old second amp dedicated to two old Kenwood KL-777's for dual subs I guess.

I wasn't aware of subs kicked out in anything myself.

They always seem somewhat active, I'd think something else was going on there rather than just the sub woofer itself....

 

[skriefal]

You probably have the aggregate volume of the two subs turned up WAY too high. Many do this because they want to hear subwoofer action from everything - even when it isn't supposed to be there. I'd rather have accuracy to the source.

 

[MrGrim999]

Because that would be highly unrealistic. And even if the lack of realism doesn't bother the listener ("it's just a movie!" as many say), the over-use of bass would get tiring very quickly. There are some movies that do this. They're usually bad movies. "Pulse" is one that comes to mind...

True. I guess after I spent over $500 on a subwoofer, I was eager to hear it in action every time I loaded a blu ray hehe. After I read that list, I popped in Hot Fuzz and sure enough my sub was getting alot of action. I never saw that movie Pulse. I'll check it out just to see what you mean...

 

[skriefal]

Ah yes... Hot Fuzz is another movie with deliberately-overdone bass. And it's actually a good movie!

You can always try the Darla-tapping-the-tank scene in Finding Nemo if you want to shake up the room...

 

[MrGrim999]

Ah yes... Hot Fuzz is another movie with deliberately-overdone bass. And it's actually a good movie!

You can always try the Darla-tapping-the-tank scene in Finding Nemo if you want to shake up the room...

Haha yes you're right about that. They definitely used an unnecessary amount of bass. I loved that movie too though hehe. I'll check out Nemo too. Gonna buy some more blu rays over the weekend from that list. Alot of them will be bargains at this point too

 

[MrGrim999]

Ah yes... Hot Fuzz is another movie with deliberately-overdone bass. And it's actually a good movie!

You can always try the Darla-tapping-the-tank scene in Finding Nemo if you want to shake up the room...

One last thing to put my mind at ease. What receiver and speakers are u using? If you used your receivers calibration tool, did u further adjust the levels? If you wouldn't mind telling me your current settings for each speaker, I was just curious to compare against. Most of my satellites are around -0.5 or 0. My sub is at -3.0. I read in the forums about needing to "trim" the levels after using the calibration tool. So if I want more volume out of my front surrounds, would I manually raise the level from -0.5 to +2.5 just as an example? Do I have to worry about anything being damaged as far as raising to high? Sorry I'm a noob

 

[skriefal]

Yamaha RX-A2040 with Vandersteen 3A speakers and Rythmik FV15HP subwoofer. Yes, it's calibrated. No, I did not adjust levels/trim after the calibration -- nor should there be any need to do so. Who told you that was needed?

My +/- channel levels wouldn't be useful to you -- they're simply what is needed to balance the audible levels from each of the speakers at the seating position(s). The mains (front left/right) might be +0.5 and the subwoofer at -3.0, for example, but this means only that the sub is naturally 3.5 dB louder than the mains (before calibration) if both were fed the same input signal. And so the sub needs to have its input levels dropped by 3.5 dB to be "in line" with the mains.

Raising the level on your mains from -0.5 to +2.5 would increase the levels from those speakers by 3.0 dB relative to the other speakers. This means that they would be drawing twice the power from your amplifier -- 2 watts instead of 1 watt, etc. But I wouldn't do this. The front L/R speakers and the rear surrounds are often used lightly throughout most movies, with the majority of the sound coming from the center speaker. The obvious exception to this is musical cues, or special effects and action sequences where all speakers are in use. This is how it's supposed to be. Raising the levels on those speakers to make the non-music, non-action scenes sound more immersive will only throw off the sound of the music, action, and other similar scenes where now the mains will be much too loud relative to your other speakers.

 

[MrGrim999]

Yamaha RX-A2040 with Vandersteen 3A speakers and Rythmik FV15HP subwoofer. Yes, it's calibrated. No, I did not adjust levels/trim after the calibration -- nor should there be any need to do so. Who told you that was needed?

My +/- channel levels wouldn't be useful to you -- they're simply what is needed to balance the audible levels from each of the speakers at the seating position(s). The mains (front left/right) might be +0.5 and the subwoofer at -3.0, for example, but this means only that the sub is naturally 3.5 dB louder than the mains (before calibration) if both were fed the same input signal. And so the sub needs to have its input levels dropped by 3.5 dB to be "in line" with the mains.

Raising the level on your mains from -0.5 to +2.5 would increase the levels from those speakers by 3.0 dB relative to the other speakers. This means that they would be drawing twice the power from your amplifier -- 2 watts instead of 1 watt, etc. But I wouldn't do this. The front L/R speakers and the rear surrounds are often used lightly throughout most movies, with the majority of the sound coming from the center speaker. The obvious exception to this is musical cues, or special effects and action sequences where all speakers are in use. This is how it's supposed to be. Raising the levels on those speakers to make the non-music, non-action scenes sound more immersive will only throw off the sound of the music, action, and other similar scenes where now the mains will be much too loud relative to your other speakers.

Gotcha! I'll just run the calibration tool one more time to set the levels again. Thanks for all your help!!

 

[purbeast0]

if you want some ridiculous bass (in a good way), check out pacific rim.

 

[MrGrim999]

if you want some ridiculous bass (in a good way), check out pacific rim.

Hehe I'm grabbing pacific rim, war of the worlds, project x, and clover field .....still have to get Ironman

 

[Twitch03]

War of the Worlds and Oblivion are some great movies with heavy bass in them.

 

[alyarb]

I just assumed subwoofers would be used at any chance available..

you people