Anyone Remember Ultima Online!?

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mango123

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I strongly urge any of you looking for something to play to check this out! It's worth a look!

been playing this for a few days.

already have a small house, bought it for 68k gold I made farming in Shame dungeon

plenty active players! there was 700 clients logged in last night.

I see people everywhere i go !


no, i do not work for or identify with shard staff at all.

If anyone here has played UO before and misses the experience i STRONGLY recommend you check it out!


That will be all! Please msg me here or in the irc room they have if you want to meet up or need help establishing yourself in the game!




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mango123

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cant tell if sarcastic or not.

well, you dont have anything to lose besides an hour or two of time.
 

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Probably not sarcastic. I'm tempted too. Probably a lot of us are, every time one of these threads comes up.
 

Markbnj

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Which version of the game do you need?

The site says that they have everything that you need available for download. I don't know what the license deal is, and that's one of the things that has always kept me from trying a shard like this. I don't own a license to the client, so I don't know how they can legitimately offer it to me for download.
 

mango123

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yeah why dont you take your darkfall playing ass into another thread? don't you know it's not nice to threadcrap?
 

mango123

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The site says that they have everything that you need available for download. I don't know what the license deal is, and that's one of the things that has always kept me from trying a shard like this. I don't own a license to the client, so I don't know how they can legitimately offer it to me for download.

AFAIK I am not sure where the legitimacy of licensing lies. OSI and EA have ended all tech support and general support for the game.

They have openly said they are okay with running your OWN emulator, but did not want people charging for it.


Found this in regard to another shard that is written very similarly software wise.
"None, perfectly legal. issues sic

RunUO(what uosa uses) is not a licensed software of EA. The server is not designated to EA. The website is not a part of EA. The client software that players use is not a part of UOSA and they are free to do what they want with that software. However, any EULA players break is their own doing when it comes to EA servers but UOSA does not force this upon anyone.

Advertising the use of your server to utilize software that is free has no legality issues. The same goes for donations/purchases with a server and their willing participants to such a cause.

Futhermore, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act was passed after the release of Ultima Online making the packet encryption bypass legal unlike with other games such as WoW."

in all the time that i have been watching the server emulation scene for this game, never did i once see an issue with OSI/EA going after anyone.

they are waiting for the p2play version to die off kind of...
 

mango123

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Which version of the game do you need?

the version for use with their server is included in the download on their site. its all packaged nicely and what not.

i think the shard runner is a coder for a living.


oh and also, as far as legality for this.. I would imagine all you would need to do is have owned the game at one point in time right?
 

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oh and also, as far as legality for this.. I would imagine all you would need to do is have owned the game at one point in time right?

Probably, but I never did, and so I don't have any claim to a license for the client. I don't really care that much about the TOS and accessing the free shard. But they'd have to make the client software public domain for that download package to be legit.
 

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I played UO from release until maybe about 1999, with a few breaks in there. First on Lake Superior, later on Great Lakes. The only expansion I was there for was The Second Age with the ostards and ophidians and what not...

I didn't particularly care for T2A, but I just have to say...

Original UO, in those first couple of years, was the most fun I've ever had gaming in my life.

No game before or since got my heart pounding the way UO did.

Me and my buddies got up to some crazy stuff.

- We'd tame a bear and a rabbit in the Wind Zoo, tell the bear to follow the rabbit, then untame the rabbit so you'd have a tame bear moving exactly like it was wild. Most people wouldn't notice the rabbit it was following. So they'd attack the bear and we'd call "guards!" and be looting their corpse clean moments later.
- We'd tame a panther in Wind Zoo which had already been fighting one of us, and the panther would kill attacking them even after tame. So he'd run past our victim screaming "help! help!" with a panther hot on his heels, chewing at him, and the good Samaritan who helped would end up dead and looted likewise.

We managed to get a small house behind the alchemist shop in Vesper during a period where they were tweaking the amount of bumpiness the ground could have and still allow a house placement. This was during a period of time where they were no longer permitting houses to be placed inside town, but this little sliver of peninsula behind the alchemist shop was not considered to be part of Vesper. So we got a house into Vesper basically, at a time when everyone had written off ever getting a house into a town area again.

We set up a guild stone on the front steps of it, and we'd tell people whatever we had to tell them by the Vesper bank, offer them anything, make it sound as sweet as we could... if they had no guild tag, we'd preemptively mark them with the stone, and then all that needed to happen for them to be a guild member was for them to touch the stone.

We'd take them back there to that house and as soon as they touched the stone for one of my friends, me and another friend would come out of hiding (which made you entirely invisible) on top of our horses, with crossbows at the ready. You could kill your fellow guild members with no penalty at all, and loot them in the middle of town likewise. So we'd end up chasing the stronger ones all through the town of Vesper, and they'd be screaming "guards! guards!" not understanding (usually) why we were able to attack them with no consequence.

And those were the times where my heart raced the most... chasing someone on horseback through the streets of Vesper, trying to make sure they didn't escape.

Very rare indeed that any of them would actually turn and fight back. A lot of people used magic and at this time, I believe you couldn't use magic in town... but we could use our crossbows with impunity in town against guild members. So maybe a lot of these people were advanced magic users but that method of defending themselves was somewhat unavailable.

At one time I kept a huge list of people we'd killed with the Vesper guild stone trick. It was over 300 names, and I didn't start keeping track until a long time into it.

One time we ran into a guy who was still green colored (marked as in our guild, but without the guild tag) in the town of Occlo. Three of us walked up to him and he was with some of his friends. He said "these are the guys who killed me!" and we told him "yes, and we'll kill you again right here in Occlo, and the guards won't do anything about it" and he and his friends refused to believe this. Completely unaware that he was still marked as being in our guild.

We did exactly what we said we'd do, and his friends were dumbstruck, convinced we could do the same to them. We allowed them to think that

And early on, I did so much horse scamming in the city of Britain... I'd ride around on a horse yelling "Horse for sale, 500 gold!" and as soon as I got the money, I'd ride off at top speed. I had a house south of town in the wilderness, and I remember the absolute white knuckle thrill of riding there, terrified that someone from town would finally discover where my hideout was. I would take these elaborate zig zag paths through the woods on my horse to avoid being found out.

Because I had a massive number of people who hated me and would follow me around trying to warn others about the horse scam, or convince me to come outside of town and face them in combat. Later, me and my friends had a similar posse in Vesper who'd try to warn our victims not to follow us. They ruined a lot of good kills for us, but we'd usually still somehow manage to keep the victims coming.

The day we quit the game we finally faced off with all of our haters in real combat, we rode the road between Vesper and Minoc and killed a lot of people, because we'd actually managed to get strong... we'd always been sort of weak characters, but we took the time to get really powerful (kind of) before the final battle. Wanted to go out with glory. Running through poison fields and fire fields helped in this endeavor.

So that last day we ended up with a massive angry mob outside of our Vesper house, and I think we were trying to like let one in, close the door, kill him, open it again... until finally we were overwhelmed and killed.

Best MMO ever.

I know it sounds like we were massive d-bags, and we were. But we were like 17 at the time. In every MMO I played after that one I was a huge carebear Mr. Nicey-pants.

This UO Forever thing doesn't look like it's for me. Too much from later patches and expansions is included, too many houses and vendors everywhere... if they had it be how the game was in the first couple of years, I'd feel differently.
 
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AFAIK I am not sure where the legitimacy of licensing lies. OSI and EA have ended all tech support and general support for the game.

They have openly said they are okay with running your OWN emulator, but did not want people charging for it.


Found this in regard to another shard that is written very similarly software wise.
"None, perfectly legal. issues sic

RunUO(what uosa uses) is not a licensed software of EA. The server is not designated to EA. The website is not a part of EA. The client software that players use is not a part of UOSA and they are free to do what they want with that software. However, any EULA players break is their own doing when it comes to EA servers but UOSA does not force this upon anyone.

Advertising the use of your server to utilize software that is free has no legality issues. The same goes for donations/purchases with a server and their willing participants to such a cause.

Futhermore, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act was passed after the release of Ultima Online making the packet encryption bypass legal unlike with other games such as WoW."

in all the time that i have been watching the server emulation scene for this game, never did i once see an issue with OSI/EA going after anyone.

they are waiting for the p2play version to die off kind of...

*sigh*

I'll clue you in.

The "emulator" might be legal. Using the CLIENT in any manner inconsistent with the End User Licensing Agreement (which I can tell you will more than likely have wording explicitly forbidding modification or using with non-EA properties) is not legal. Modifying and distributing the client, as they do, is most definitely not legal under any pretext whatsoever - unless they have express permission to do so from EA directly, which I sincerely doubt they do.

Simply put, they're putting the onus on the end user to break the law. The only reason they haven't been shut down at this point is because UO doesn't make money for EA anymore, so EA doesn't give a shit and can't be bothered to spend money enforcing the protection of an unprofitable IP at this point.
 

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might want to read this:
https://help.ea.com/article/uo-terms-of-service


(d) Official Service. Ultima Online has been designed by Electronic Arts for play only on the Service. The Software is licensed to you for play on the Service only. Electronic Arts does not grant you a license to use the Software for any other purpose. You agree to play Ultima Online only on the Service and not through any other means. You further agree not to create or provide any other means through which Ultima Online may be played by others - for example, through server emulators. You may not reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the Software, including any proprietary communications protocol used by the Software. You acknowledge that you do not have the right to create, publish, distribute, create derivative works from or use any software programs, utilities, applications, emulators or tools derived from or created for Ultima Online unless specifically authorized in writing by Electronic Arts.


server emulators are not allowed.
 
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drebo

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Any shard where you can get 70k gold in "a few days" has no bearing on the "Golden Age" of UO (the period between the release of T2A and UO:R) and thus isn't worth the time.

This was the problem I had with UOSA. It was too easy.
 

clok1966

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Still a griefers paradise? Oh wait.. a hardcore PVP game? loved the 30 levels over ya kill you non stop as you leave safe zone mentality of 75% of the players.. Man the good times.. oh wait.. and when i did level up.. after a few ganks.. lost interest in that too, no challenge at all.. turned into my gangs bigger then your gang.. grab a friend, retaliate.. they grab 2, i grab 3, they grab 5.. etc.. I guess its better then the hand holding of WoW.

yes im a sarcastic prick when it comes to this game its just an opinion.. i know it was well liked by many..listen to their praise.. if you don't like my assessment.
 
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