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UsandThem

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Lol at this clueless throwing crap, hoping it stinks thread.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?290486-Intel-600p-512GB-SSD-Review-The-Ultimate. The true thread with actual, proper done benches and comparisons.

I thought to myself "Wow, that's a random jerk thing to say", but the username sounded familiar for some reason.

And then I remembered why it sounded familiar. This is just what you enjoy doing:

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/gtx-1070-low-performance.2478673/page-3#post-38334834

Why even come in here? To link to a post you made on another forum linking to a Chinese website, while at the same time acting smug and like it's below you?

Where's your hands-on benchmark data at?
 
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nerp

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What are you saying? The 600p is a consumer drive. All I see in that thread is people comparing the 950 to the Intel 750. The 600p is half the price of the 950. And the only person who has done an actual, real review with actual credibility is Alvin at PCPer. And everything discussed in this thread is a reflection of the facts. This drive is faster than every SATA drive on the market for everyone who buys it unless they're running benchmarks only or moving 20GB files back and forth back and forth all day. Who the hell does that? Workstation users who aren't buying the 600p, duh.

In any event, for half the price of the 950, I have identical desktop performance.

Intel will also issue a firmware update later this year to solve the cache-full scenario.

Going just by benchmarks is idiotic.
 

nerp

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I thought to myself "Wow, that's a random jerk thing to say", but the username sounded familiar for some reason.

And then I remembered why it sounded familiar. This is just what you enjoy doing:

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/gtx-1070-low-performance.2478673/page-3#post-38334834

Why even come in here? To link to a post you made on another forum linking to a Chinese website, while at the same time acting smug and like it's below you?

Where's your hands-on benchmark data at?

He doesn't have it and he won't because hands-on usage benchmarks show he's wrong. People like him tend to vanish in a puff of smoke when their smug is checked.
 
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SinOfLiberty

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point proven, sheeps.


Insulting other members is not allowed
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UsandThem

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point proven, sheeps.

If you have something constructive to add, then do it. But "point proven, sheep" doesn't speak highly of your intelligence. This is on top of the hissy fit you threw in your 'my video card doesn't work right' thread.

Are you 12, on medication, or do you simply like acting that way?

I should have added you to my ignore list after seeing how you acted in the previously mentioned video card thread, but you are on it now.

I have a strong feeling it isn't the first time, and it won't be the last time you land on one.

Good riddance
 

UsandThem

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What are you saying? The 600p is a consumer drive. All I see in that thread is people comparing the 950 to the Intel 750. The 600p is half the price of the 950. And the only person who has done an actual, real review with actual credibility is Alvin at PCPer. And everything discussed in this thread is a reflection of the facts. This drive is faster than every SATA drive on the market for everyone who buys it unless they're running benchmarks only or moving 20GB files back and forth back and forth all day. Who the hell does that? Workstation users who aren't buying the 600p, duh.

In any event, for half the price of the 950, I have identical desktop performance.

Intel will also issue a firmware update later this year to solve the cache-full scenario.

Going just by benchmarks is idiotic.

I am still eyeing it. Newegg just took their price back down to Intel's MSRP of $189, just waiting to read a few more reviews on it. Oddly enough, Billy Tallis put it on Anandtech's "Best SSDs" Q3 list, but no actual review from them yet. It looks very good so far as long as you don't have long sustained writes, but like you said earlier, most desktop users aren't going to use the drive in that way.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9799/best-ssds
 

nerp

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Not only that, the writes have to be above 120mb/sec for the 256gb model and that sustained nonstop speed climbs to 200mb/s for the 512. The 1tb will be even higher. So not only do the sustained writes have to be huge files, the source from which you write has to be very fast. I've never seen anything able to keep 200mb/sec coming through usb or SATA, and that's still twice as fast as my internet max speed.
 
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renz20003

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Beware of the 600p, it has an endurance rating of 72 TB. Meaning the drive switches to read only after reaching that threshold.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Beware of the 600p, it has an endurance rating of 72 TB. Meaning the drive switches to read only after reaching that threshold.

That's right... I had forgotten about that. In the SSD Endurance Test (TR), they noted that their Intel test SSD, effectively locked, then bricked itself shortly thereafter, once it hit it's TBW limit.

Edit: 72TB isn't THAT much. Maybe five years lifespan, for consumer (power-user, but not server/database) workloads?

Intel G2 and Series 320 drives could handle like 300TB+.
 

renz20003

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That's right... I had forgotten about that. In the SSD Endurance Test (TR), they noted that their Intel test SSD, effectively locked, then bricked itself shortly thereafter, once it hit it's TBW limit.

Edit: 72TB isn't THAT much. Maybe five years lifespan, for consumer (power-user, but not server/database) workloads?

Intel G2 and Series 320 drives could handle like 300TB+.

I'm still using my 80 gig gen 2 Intel ssd. Still works like a champ.

I did purchase a 600p before reading about the endurance rating. Had I known, I still would have bought it because it was only $89 at microcenter.
 

nerp

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I don't think I'm going to hit 72 TB that quickly. And this is a consumer drive.

I wouldn't be surprised if Intel makes some adjustments to the firmware down the road to make this more flexible or something. Who knows. I figure by the time I reach 72 TB writes on this thing, I'll have already replaced it by then. And based on my usage I'm thinking it will be more than 5 years for me. I don't deal with very large files very often. I don't do video editing. I don't pirate games or movies. The only real data work I do is encoding recorded shows from OTA but they're recorded onto a spinning HD in a dedicated TV computer and the encode is written directly to my home server which is all spinning HDDs. My actual desktop doing the encoding doesn't do any writing.
 

Anubis

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yea i imagine that wont be a huge issue for most people even most enthusiasts will prob replace it before they hit it, in my many SSDs i only thing i have 2 that have gone past 72 TB. one used as a DL drive before sending this off to other places and the other is where video recording goes/gets edited before being rendered and sent someplace
 

shabby

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Edit: 72TB isn't THAT much. Maybe five years lifespan, for consumer (power-user, but not server/database) workloads?
I have an intel 330 that i bought when it came out 4 years ago, have 47tb written to it so far, i download a lot of stuff so i'd imagine for the average consumer they can probably get 15+ years out of it, assuming none of the other components fail.
 

UsandThem

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A little underwhelming for me personally. It is just too close to the 850 EVO in some of the tests. Don't get me wrong, it is faster but I guess I had higher hopes. I'll probably hold off until they release a firmware update to see if performance improves.

The thing that caught my attention in the article was this:

Intel is the first to market with an entry-level NVMe SSD, but in the coming days and weeks, we will see several products join the 600p. We know of at least one unannounced product that delivers higher endurance and better performance at the same general price. The company doesn't have Intel's long history of high quality and lowest return rate in the industry, but it doesn't implode when you cross the endurance line, either.
 
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