Anyone still claiming Fox News is "Fair and Balanced"?

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Druidx

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Not u, them. Everyone knows Fox and MSNBC lean right-left. Fox just makes a habit of outright lying or spreading malicious propoganda.

example....

Chris Mathews towards the end of election night said he was glad Sandy hit. Chris apologized the very next day.

Glen Beck said "Obama hates white people", nothing.

Like I said, both sides do it.
I can cherry pick examples too. Remember when MSNBC ran the story about white people with guns at an Obama rally. They had to crop the picture because it was actually a black guy. The whole news bit was about how white people can't stand having a black president.
You can probably toss out more examples then me but it's because I don't watch either channel. I just think people get way to up tight about MSNBC vs FOX and vice versa.

I was a big Maddow fan when she first broke on the scene as a panelist on different news shows and channels. Now I can't stand to watch her be the baby Olberman. It's really to bad because I think she has a lot more to offer.
 

UberNeuman

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My only hope is that Fox News viewers really start looking at their news source and ask: Why did we get information that didn't account for reality....

\get outside the bubble, Fox News hounds.....
 
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Fox News does lean to the right even though they are fake Conservatives, look at Sean Hannity and O'reilly they state they are on the right. So whats the problem then?

As well they do have liberals just look at Bob Beckel, Juan Williams, Kirsten Powers, Chris Wallace, Sheppard Smith, Geraldo Rivera
 

OutHouse

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Fox News does lean to the right even though they are fake Conservatives, look at Sean Hannity and O'reilly they state they are on the right. So whats the problem then?

As well they do have liberals just look at Bob Beckel, Juan Williams, Kirsten Powers, Chris Wallace, Sheppard Smith, Geraldo Rivera

sheppard smith is not a liberal. he is middle of the road and is quick to call bullshit to either side when he sees it and is not afraid of doing so. my kind of guy.
 

Druidx

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The times I've seen Shepard Smith, I thought he was the best since Brent Hume. I just can't get into his show, I think it's something about the way he looks. I don't know if it's the fake orange tan look or something about his eyes.
 

Londo_Jowo

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I lost all respect for Shepard Smith during Katrina. He went bragging about how he/the city of New Orleans survived to the "over the top" coverage of what really happened to the city.
 

Ausm

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I lost all respect for Shepard Smith during Katrina. He went bragging about how he/the city of New Orleans survived to the "over the top" coverage of what really happened to the city.

Wow I thought he was the only sane pundit on that psuedo news channel.
 

HomerJS

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sheppard smith is not a liberal. he is middle of the road and is quick to call bullshit to either side when he sees it and is not afraid of doing so. my kind of guy.

Anyone who calls Fox on their bullshit is labeled a liberal
 

Moonbeam

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In my opinion the dangers of a propagandized population that divorces itself from reality and is untouched by objective fact are so great and dangerous, given the new scientific evidence regarding conservative brains, that the rights of unencumbered free speech as we allow them to be practiced now need to be questioned.

Germany no longer allows the Nazi party to gather together or to speak because the last time they did it killed somewhere upward of 50 million people and cost trillions in cold war militarization. The problem with that. of course, is that the most mentally ill and rebellious youth in the nation, in the search for confirmation they are as worthless as they feel, will gravitate in that direction.

This is why the best cure for propaganda is education and training of the mind, self love and self respect that form honest and open self examination. The aim of society should be to train people how to be objective. The problem, of course, for a consumer culture like ours, based on the satisfaction of delusionally induced need, is that you would not be able to sell such people anything they didn't really want.

So we need and nurture our brain dead so some those with the cunning and position ad will to manipulate minds of such people can get rich. We build the economy out from our zoo cages.

But every so often the animals that are the food want to become the feeders and they begin to get uppity. And the propaganda machine goes into action to keep them in their place. There will be no transfer of wealth from one group to another, the society will be stratified and those divisions maintained. The old cream will try to keep new cream from changing the rules.

And one rule so many wish to play by is that speech is money, that those with the money should lead the propaganda drive, that the wealthy should be the ones who set the rules by which your brain functions, they are the ones who know best how to inculcate your brains with the rules of your mental prison, that any voice that speaks from the dark and the other is the devil who wants to destroy you.

I say no, the situation is hopeless, your minds are already gone, there is no saving you from the mental prison in which you live, but we could change the rules so that always and everywhere there should at least be two opinions given to every propaganda situation, that every opinion source HAVE TO allow other voices to directly challenge what is said, that it should everywhere be at least Hannity and Colmes and not only just them but others all paid for at tax payers expense. And the one topic that needs to be covered over and over is how the human mind is manipulated. Now go back to sleep.
 

blankslate

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I'm curious, what do they label people who call MSNBC on their bullshit?

Treasure hunters because what they're looking for is rather rare by comparison. But then Fox News shovels truckloads of it on a daily basis so that's not saying much for MSNBC
 

Druidx

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Treasure hunters because what they're looking for is rather rare by comparison. But then Fox News shovels truckloads of it on a daily basis so that's not saying much for MSNBC
I have to wonder how much of Fox's market share is made up of people watching for the sole purpose of having something to bitch about.
 

blankslate

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I have to wonder how much of Fox's market share is made up of people watching for the sole purpose of having something to bitch about.

Who knows? it'd be funny if >50% of it was media matters volunteers actually.
 

hal2kilo

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The times I've seen Shepard Smith, I thought he was the best since Brent Hume. I just can't get into his show, I think it's something about the way he looks. I don't know if it's the fake orange tan look or something about his eyes.

Bret Hume...seriously.
 

Todd33

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I'm curious, what do they label people who call MSNBC on their bullshit?

What BS? They have a few Liberal commentators, but as far as I know they don't lie non-stop and it is separate from the news itself. Fox is not a mirror of MSNBC.
 

sigurros81

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What BS? They have a few Liberal commentators, but as far as I know they don't lie non-stop and it is separate from the news itself. Fox is not a mirror of MSNBC.

Agreed. MSNBC annoys me because of their liberal, politically-correct pussifying-of-the-universe. But they definitely don't pull crazy shit out of their asses like FOX News.
 

hal2kilo

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Agreed. MSNBC annoys me because of their liberal, politically-correct pussifying-of-the-universe. But they definitely don't pull crazy shit out of their asses like FOX News.

Hell, I'm a liberal and I can't take it some time.
 

FerrelGeek

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LMAO!! I loved the look on their faces when they realized Rmoney got CRUSHED!! Oh and when the one Rightwing nutjob went down to bust the peoples balls who just told the Fox nation that Rmoney lost Ohio....Priceless!

The only thing better would have been the look on Chris Mathews face if Romney had won.

Pot meet kettle.
 

quest55720

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sheppard smith is not a liberal. he is middle of the road and is quick to call bullshit to either side when he sees it and is not afraid of doing so. my kind of guy.

That is why I think he is the best news anchor on TV right now. He is the only one who does not have a bias and takes both sides to task when they are wrong. News networks need more Sheppard Smith's on the air period.
 
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