Anyone still considering Ivy Bridge?

[aaksheytalwar]

Currently I have an i7 890 (or 860 can't remember) socket 1156. I've been getting into Adobe After Effects quite heavily, I'll be getting a Sandy Bridge with an Z77 board. Ivy-Bridge offers nothing to me. I will be getting a 'K' series processor to O/C the stink out of it...water cooled of course.

For a custom loop do ivy

 

[Batmeat]

For a custom loop do ivy

Whats the reasoning? Sandy Bridge runs cooler.

 

[rgallant]

Whats the reasoning? Sandy Bridge runs cooler.

just saying.
-unless you set the the TJ.max to 90c in the software temp. program then ib runs cooler than sb. mostly all phantom numbers from two different chips.
-only numbers that are real are the ones showing , at the time when the chip down clock's from high temps.

 

[jimmygates]

Microcenter has the 2500k for $169.99 and the 3570k for $189.99. For $20 extra, I went with the 3570k.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Whats the reasoning? Sandy Bridge runs cooler.

The lucid stuff?

PCIe 3?

 

[Dadofamunky]

Ok Asus bios 3207 for P8P67 (your motherboard) fully unlocks the multi for Ivy bridge now:

Ok guys some old school vintage P67 action!

3770k L206B314 P95 x64 stability testing on an Asus P8P67 Vanilla Bios 3207, air-cooled on a Venomous-X with 2x Enermax Magma 120mm fans:

Thanks for the timely info!

 

[psolord]

I decided to skip Ivy after all since gaming is my main interest along with a lot of HDD storage.

Just ordered an Asrock Extreme 6 P67 and a 2500k. Will save me 200 euros off the 3770k system I was planning and the money will be added on the gpu budget.

 

[Zebo]

Man I've been looking through results threads on IB and even with water ppl are having a hard time getting 4.7ish. 4.5 seems about average which is rather small compared to SB averages.

http://www.overclock.net/t/968053/o...voltages-temps-bios-templates-inc-spreadsheet

I have no idea how bit tech got to 5 Ghz when hardly anyone else can let alone benched it in the 105C range.

Anyway If I were to upgrade SB all the way.

This reminds me when Lynnfield came out and Nehalem was still better. Or when Preshott came out and people still bought Northwoods. Or When Bulldozer came out and people bought Phenoms. This chip is crap for overclockers and I'd go back one step to SB this time too.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

yeah, I was definitely very disappointed with Ivy, was hoping for at least 5.2Ghz, but even eclipsing 4.7GHz (which I've been able to hit on every Sandy CPU I've ever owned as a baseline) seems like a pipedream.

and while a ~4.5-4.6Ghz Ivy would certainly be more the "good enough" it would still be very much a sidegrade for my old 2600K

still somewhat tempted to build a SFF ITX rig based on that ASUS board, but that board seems like complete overkill now with hindsight of Ivy being a poor overclocker relative to Sandy, especially with the limited cooling options in going with ITX.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Already bought mine.

To go from SB to IB is stupid.

Not unless you plan on using on-die graphics.

 

[Zebo]

Well you're doing well above avg Bunny. Cool. And anything less than 4.5 I think IB dominates in all areas so SSF would be a good application, staying around there. It's not like you'd get a monster OC out of SB in a ITX case either. Might as well get an Ivy. Basically most avg Joe will be better off with IB but not extreme clockers with good air or good water who can take SB's ~5.

 

[guskline]

Oh please. 2500K is Obsolete and has been replaced ()

Don, calling a 2500K Obsolete is a bit much. Replaced no doubt. I see no reason to go from SB to Ivy since I own 2500K rigs. However, If I was building new now, no doubt, Ivy. Not sure that the price difference from SB to Ivy is a large enough gap to justify choosing SB and ignoring Ivy.

It appears you have done a boat load of testing on the Ivy chip and it really is a big step for Intel. I was an AMD devotee for a long time but the SB chip changed my mind. I have no doubt Intel has the $$$, brains and production capacity to make Ivy even better.

BTW I can say my AMD 386DX40 is obsolete

 

[scrubman]

BTW I can say my AMD 386DX40 is obsolete

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh my first build!! Damn that was a beast compared to the 286 machines I was using at work!

 

[Batmeat]

just saying.
-unless you set the the TJ.max to 90c in the software temp. program then ib runs cooler than sb. mostly all phantom numbers from two different chips.
-only numbers that are real are the ones showing , at the time when the chip down clock's from high temps.

Ah. Ok. That makes sense. Plus I'm not going for massive O/C's so....

 

[Axon]

4.5 is still a great clock and IB outperforms clock for clock.

Plus temps are overrated. My SB right at 4.6 hits 80 under PRIME95 and the system is beautifully stable.

 

[Fjive]

I'd go with IB...since i'm upgrading from a E8400..its a huge jump for me..

Did anyone notice the K versions are missing these?

Intel vPro Technology
Intel Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d)
Intel Trusted Execution Technology

How important are those stuff if I intend to run vmware with it?

 

[chronochime]

I'd go with IB...since i'm upgrading from a E8400..its a huge jump for me..

Did anyone notice the K versions are missing these?

Intel vPro Technology
Intel Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d)
Intel Trusted Execution Technology

How important are those stuff if I intend to run vmware with it?

Same CPU as you had. E8400 oc'd to 3.7Ghz.

Since I'm not too knowledgeable of how SB and IB compare when oc'd to the same speed, if I want to take either CPU(2500k and 3750k) to ~4.4-4.5Ghz, which is faster? As I don't plan go past 4.5, am I better off going with the IB or the SB? Heat is primary concern, followed closely by performance. I have a Corsair H80, and I prefer my CPU to not die from heat so.

Thanks to all for answering.

Got MC near me, so price for going with IB is not a factor.

 

[Subyman]

I really want a new motherboard, so dropping an IB into it seems like a natural thing to do. However, I can't justify it. My SB at a daily 4.4Ghz is plenty fast and stays in the high 40C's under load. I want to jump to 3770K for the HT, but will probably wait for Haswell. I hate my motherboard though... If Haswell used 1155 then I would get a new motherboard and call it a day. Too bad.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

I am going from a SB to ivy, I know it is a small difference but ivy doesn't perform worse anywhere, not even equal theoretically, ivy is better just not by much.

And avg for SB is 4.4-4.5 with 1.3-1.35v as well.

This tells you
Ivy

 

[Skott]

IB is better when it comes to temps and power usage. Thats what it is known for. Some people seem to feel high to extreme overclocking is more important though. It will be interesting to see how Intel responds to this in their next gen CPU. Afterall, overclocking enthusiasts are the minority users but seem to scream the loudest. What will Intel do?

 

[anikhtos]

anyone still sonsiderign ivy bridge
hmmmmmmm
i bet intel
after all it launched it

 

[MPiland]

I bought Ivy on launch from Newegg...yeah I paid more but I was afraid I wouldn't get it in time and my desktop had been sitting patiently for a month. I was antsy lol

 

[Axon]

IB is better when it comes to temps and power usage. Thats what it is known for. Some people seem to feel high to extreme overclocking is more important though. It will be interesting to see how Intel responds to this in their next gen CPU. Afterall, overclocking enthusiasts are the minority users but seem to scream the loudest. What will Intel do?

It's just hand wringing and should be ignored. IB is a tick and not a tock, after all. People got spoiled by SB.

 

[TidusZ]

Man I've been looking through results threads on IB and even with water ppl are having a hard time getting 4.7ish. 4.5 seems about average which is rather small compared to SB averages.

http://www.overclock.net/t/968053/o...voltages-temps-bios-templates-inc-spreadsheet

I have no idea how bit tech got to 5 Ghz when hardly anyone else can let alone benched it in the 105C range.

Anyway If I were to upgrade SB all the way.

This reminds me when Lynnfield came out and Nehalem was still better. Or when Preshott came out and people still bought Northwoods. Or When Bulldozer came out and people bought Phenoms. This chip is crap for overclockers and I'd go back one step to SB this time too.

I was able to do 4.8 on air for 3 hours of linx @ 95c (87c in prime) max, which was a lot higher temperature than 4.7, but still manageable. I run at 4.7 which has very reasonable temps and voltage on air... Since nobody seems to post results I don't know if its an above average chip or maybe people just are exaggerating the poor o/c's. I was able to get 4.6 on 1.2 v and cool temperatures so I would be surprised if people are having trouble going above 4.5.

It is disappointing though since I could of just got a 2600/2700k months ago when I started waiting for IB and been essentially in the same spot. I did manage to wait long enough for gtx 680 to come out which worked out well though.

 

[rgallant]

I was able to do 4.8 on air for 3 hours of linx @ 95c (87c in prime) max, which was a lot higher temperature than 4.7, but still manageable. I run at 4.7 which has very reasonable temps and voltage on air... Since nobody seems to post results I don't know if its an above average chip or maybe people just are exaggerating the poor o/c's. I was able to get 4.6 on 1.2 v and cool temperatures so I would be surprised if people are having trouble going above 4.5.

It is disappointing though since I could of just got a 2600/2700k months ago when I started waiting for IB and been essentially in the same spot. I did manage to wait long enough for gtx 680 to come out which worked out well though.

-4.8 is great with prime. do you monitor the air temps of the air going into the cpu cooler?