Anyone still smoke?

[surfsatwerk]

Is it? Smoking lowers workplace productivity and it raises absenteeism. Those are both things a potential employer should be considering.

I'll definitely file this away for further consideration.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Thank you for an actual answer instead of guilt driven hostility.

So it's recreational for you? Like all your friends smoke so you join in?

Sometimes it just sounds good, so I have a cigarette. It would feel like something is missing from the night if I didn't have a few. I asked my friends who do regularly smoke for a cigarette enough that I didn't want to be 'that guy' so I started buying my own. I don't do it regularly or heavily as I know it isn't a good habit, but I do have at least a few most weekends.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

If you're going to make a claim, it's your responsibility to back it up.

If you're going to question it should be based on something other than ignorance and laziness. Perhaps if you used one brain cell to attempt to google studies on smoking impact in the workplace you'd find the reams of data all on your own. C'mon, be a big boy and prove that you can use google all on your own. I'll help get you started. Use phrases like "effects of smoking in the workplace", "studies of smoking effect on worker productivity", "smoking and employee absenteeism" or something similar. If you had the wherewithal to do that in the first place you would have found the data in less time than it took to throw a petulant hissy fit on data that is well understood by anyone that's ever been in a workplace. You really need to read the thousands of studies done to accept and understand that smokers take more breaks, take longer breaks and have more long term health problems than non-smokers? Really? Okay, you've been pointed in the right direction, now read away.

 

[Mixolydian]

If you're going to question it should be based on something other than ignorance and laziness. Perhaps if you used one brain cell to attempt to google studies on smoking impact in the workplace you'd find the reams of data all on your own. C'mon, be a big boy and prove that you can use google all on your own. I'll help get you started. Use phrases like "effects of smoking in the workplace", "studies of smoking effect on worker productivity", "smoking and employee absenteeism" or something similar. If you had the wherewithal to do that in the first place you would have found the data in less time than it took to throw a petulant hissy fit on data that is well understood by anyone that's ever been in a workplace. You really need to read the thousands of studies done to accept and understand that smokers take more breaks, take longer breaks and have more long term health problems than non-smokers? Really? Okay, you've been pointed in the right direction, now read away.

LOL you're the one that's throwing a hissy fit. You make a claim and then are too lazy to cite a single source, yet take the time to type out a hysterical tirade.

Get the fuck over yourself.

 

[Markbnj]

Is it? Smoking lowers workplace productivity and it raises absenteeism. Those are both things a potential employer should be considering.

I imagine there are quite a few other personal traits and behaviors that have that same effect, if you can study and correlate them. I imagine that the bright people who work in making large corporations as efficient as possible will get around to that higher-hanging fruit at some point.

And just to note: once you commit to ordering your personal life in such a way that they feel you can be hired without causing any undue spikes in their marginal costs, they'll still feel free to re-org the next time the CEO has a bright idea and lay you off without warning.

Another idea that might occur to the corporate drones who think about this shit is: if you're hiring people you should be hiring people who have a big impact on your business. If you have such a person and you pass them by because you think the potential costs of their off-duty behavior outweigh their value, then something in your analysis is screwed. If you're hiring people whose value can be outweighed by the actuarial results of smokers' behavior, then you're running a call center or a fast food restaurant or whatever, and who gives a shit except for you? Every other person's main goal is to leave your employ at the first opportunity.

 

[dank69]

Smoked for about 14 years. Haven't had a single one in about 12 years. The fact that I still crave them on almost a daily basis reminds me why I never want to have one again. No way I should still be addicted to them like that.

 

[ThinClient]

Yep, plenty of assholes still smoke. I know this because the assholes who smoke make it their asshole business to make sure I know they smoke by blowing their smoke in my face. I hope that HR questionnaire is backed up by a company policy of not hiring asshole smokers because, you know fuck asshole smokers.

No smoker blows their smoke in your face -not unless you've done something to piss them off, like standing next to them and demanding that they move out of "your" space or making dumbass passive aggressive comments about the smell.

 

[ThinClient]

BTW, I smoke a pipe occasionally.

 

[IronWing]

No smoker blows their smoke in your face -not unless you've done something to piss them off, like standing next to them and demanding that they move out of "your" space or making dumbass passive aggressive comments about the smell.

You are 100% wrong. Asshole smokers don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves and light up in front of others.

 

[Imp]

Hell, yes.

Not by choice though. Neighbor is a chain smoker and we live in a semi-detached meaning that he's right outside our windows. Summer now, so windows are always open = we get beaucoup secondhand smoke.

 

[SlowSpyder]

You are 100% wrong. Asshole smokers don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves and light up in front of others.

I usually don't smoke around non-smokers (though I will go outside if I'm at a bar and have one on the sidewalk).

 

[brandonb]

I always love people like the OP.

"2nd hand smoke is dangerous!"

Yet.

More harmful chemicals are filling the air at a ratio 1 million to 1 everyday. All coming from automobiles, airplanes, power plants, home furnaces, etc.

I happen to like the smell of 2nd hand smoke. But I am not a smoker. I smoked twice in my life, at age 17 and age 27. For about a year or two each time. It's been 10 years since I have had a cigarette.

I have no desire to have one.

That said there is quite a few people at my job site who go out to the street to smoke. With about 300 working at any given point, I may see 6-10 of them on the street smoking. Depending on the time of day. If I had to guess, maybe 10% of the workforce smokes.

 

[ThinClient]

You are 100% wrong. Asshole smokers don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves and light up in front of others.

Nope, I'm right and you're wrong.

 

[rsbennett00]

I usually don't smoke around non-smokers (though I will go outside if I'm at a bar and have one on the sidewalk).

Where people have to walk past you to visit the bar?

Establishments around here will actively push smokers further away into alleys and whatnot so that doesn't happen, even if it pisses them off. A loss of one smoker customer is a good trade-off for the thousands that don't.

 

[ThinClient]

i usually don't smoke around non-smokers (though i will go outside if i'm at a bar and have one on the sidewalk).

NO YOU DON'T. YOU DRIVE RIGHT OVER TO IRONWING'S HOUSE AND BURST IN THE FRONT DOOR AND APPROACH HIM IN HIS RECLINER AND SNARL AT HIM AS YOU LIGHT UP IN HIS FACE.

And then you exhale up his nostrils.

Every smoker does this. Every day. All of them. With every smoke.

 

[ThinClient]

Where people have to walk past you to visit the bar?

Establishments around here will actively push smokers further away into alleys and whatnot so that doesn't happen, even if it pisses them off. A loss of one smoker customer is a good trade-off for the thousands that don't.

Most people don't give a flying fuck about smelling cig smoke for a moment as they walk into the bar. Even if they do, the vast majority don't care enough to make a big deal about it.

It's only the loud, obnoxious, self-centered wise and beautiful woman rags who bitch and moan about it who unfortunately get all the attention. It's a good thing these self-absorbed self-righteous assholes are few and far between, but it's unfortunate that anyone pays them any attention.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Where people have to walk past you to visit the bar?

Establishments around here will actively push smokers further away into alleys and whatnot so that doesn't happen, even if it pisses them off. A loss of one smoker customer is a good trade-off for the thousands that don't.

Sometimes I'll smoke on the sidewalk outside a bar where people walk. I never blow it in someones face, but they may smell my cigarette as they walk by I guess.

 

[z1ggy]

No but your mom smoked my dong last night like a g'damn pro. Only cost $5, too!!!

 

[Markbnj]

Sometimes I'll smoke on the sidewalk outside a bar where people walk. I never blow it in someones face, but they may smell my cigarette as they walk by I guess.

Along with car exhaust, garbage, people, and everything else a populated place smells like.

 

[rsbennett00]

Most people don't give a flying fuck about smelling cig smoke for a moment as they walk into the bar. Even if they do, the vast majority don't care enough to make a big deal about it.

It's only the loud, obnoxious, self-centered wise and beautiful woman rags who bitch and moan about it who unfortunately get all the attention. It's a good thing these self-absorbed self-righteous assholes are few and far between, but it's unfortunate that anyone pays them any attention.

Wow, when I created this thread I had no idea the amount of hostility it would generate. I did expect some of those 5 year-olds though.

Years ago when smoking outside a bar/restaurant/etc was common, my group of friends never raised a fuss, we quietly turned around and went elsewhere. Some of those establishments closed up shop and now none of them that I'm aware of allow smoking near the entrance... Perhaps someone complained but regardless of your denial, it matters.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Along with car exhaust, garbage, people, and everything else a populated place smells like.

Public space has to be shared and some compromise has to be made. I don't have a right to not smell a perfume I don't care for. I may not like it and it could be full of chemicals. Just the same, if I want to have a cigarette and am being respectful... well, deal with it.

 

[rsbennett00]

Public space has to be shared and some compromise has to be made. I don't have a right to not smell a perfume I don't care for. I may not like it and it could be full of chemicals. Just the same, if I want to have a cigarette and am being respectful... well, deal with it.

Except one is proven to cause cancer while the other is not...

 

[BurnItDwn]

I still smoke cigars, pipe, and rarely a cigarette.

I smoke because i like to smoke. Its an indulgence that makes the day better.

 

[Imp]

Yes, we can't hire smokers because of the health risks associated. I'm not in HR but something about the employment safety act I think.

What do you do exactly?

I'm especially curious because of one of, I think, your replies in the Christy Mack beating thread.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Except one is proven to cause cancer while the other is not...

There are plenty of carcinogens and harmful chemicals in the environment not caused by tobacco. Just search "perfume carcinogens". I don't get the smoking hate. It has plenty of negatives going for it, but at this point everyone is well aware of them, so it is a personal choice. For those who don't want second hand smoke, you should have that right (within reason). As an example, I don't want to breathe car exhaust, but I am with every breath and you are too. I don't get why smoking is singled out I guess. Eating a Whopper isn't exactly good for you or the environment either.