Anyone tried Gnome 2.6 yet?

Kadarin

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It just showed up in Portage today for Gentoo. I'm emerging it now, and will check it out
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Will as soon as it finds it's way into Debian Unstable.

Ditto.

I am actually looking forward to this release, which is something new for me.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Idoxash
Are there any screenshots of it?

--Idoxash

It looks pretty much identical to my incarnation of Gnome 2.4. There are differences in the icon set and some definite differences in Nautilus. The changes in Nautilus are debatable as to whether they are an improvement..
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Idoxash
Are there any screenshots of it?


see arstechnica article for a exauhstive review
--Idoxash

It looks pretty much identical to my incarnation of Gnome 2.4. There are differences in the icon set and some definite differences in Nautilus. The changes in Nautilus are debatable as to whether they are an improvement..

Anything is a improvement, IMO. The spatial thing seems cool and I dislike the windows exploder-style internet browser turned file browser method that old naut. used. And the OS X thing of columns just realy SUCKS. Spatial is the best idea so far, going back to the oldschool method that worked and try to improve on it in future releases instead of creating new sucky method seems like a good idea.

edit: with OS X you have a few views to choose from, most people use the classic style click on "my harddrive" sort of view, the column view allows you to slide back and forth in one big window with the directories devided by vertical lines... or something like that. It's been a while since I last used OS X...
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Idoxash
Are there any screenshots of it?


see arstechnica article for a exauhstive review
--Idoxash

It looks pretty much identical to my incarnation of Gnome 2.4. There are differences in the icon set and some definite differences in Nautilus. The changes in Nautilus are debatable as to whether they are an improvement..

Anything is a improvement, IMO. The spatial thing seems cool and I dislike the windows exploder-style internet browser turned file browser method that old naut. used. And the OS X thing of columns just realy SUCKS. Spatial is the best idea so far, going back to the oldschool method that worked and try to improve on it in future releases instead of creating new sucky method seems like a good idea.

I'd have to retrain myself. I want only one window, and I want a tree-view on the left for quick navigation. In the new Nautilus, you can middle-click to open a new folder in the same window, but it inexplicably moves the window to the upper left corner.. So I just went ahead and turned off spatial.
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Idoxash
Are there any screenshots of it?


see arstechnica article for a exauhstive review
--Idoxash

It looks pretty much identical to my incarnation of Gnome 2.4. There are differences in the icon set and some definite differences in Nautilus. The changes in Nautilus are debatable as to whether they are an improvement..

Anything is a improvement, IMO. The spatial thing seems cool and I dislike the windows exploder-style internet browser turned file browser method that old naut. used. And the OS X thing of columns just realy SUCKS. Spatial is the best idea so far, going back to the oldschool method that worked and try to improve on it in future releases instead of creating new sucky method seems like a good idea.

I'd have to retrain myself. I want only one window, and I want a tree-view on the left for quick navigation. In the new Nautilus, you can middle-click to open a new folder in the same window, but it inexplicably moves the window to the upper left corner.. So I just went ahead and turned off spatial.


I suppose it isn't perfect. I don't use nautalis, when using windows I detest the tree stuff. I use command line instead. I am always looking for something different.

The movement is based on the last place THAT particular folder was located. It keeps track of were you left it the last time you used the folder.

So if you open "home" and left it on the bottom left of the screen it will always open it on the bottom left of the screen no matter the position of the last window you were just in.

The idea is to create "muscle memory", once you get used to it you should be able to go wam-bam click click click accross the screen without looking, since you already naturally know were everything is.

Think about this: Every time you get in your car and put your keys on the ignition, do you have to look for the key hole every single time? Or does your hand instinctively insert the key in the hole without you having to bend over and look?

When you change gears do you have to find the gear shifter every time? NOPE it's in the same place every time you go to use it. The shift pedal, the brake pedal? The radio dial?

same place everytime, you reach you find. "Muscle memory" is what that is called.

hence the idea of the spacial placement. It;s to solve the problem of having to hunt and peck to find a folder every time you want to go to it. It'll take some time to get used to it.
 

Kadarin

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Thanks, drag.. I'll have to play with this some more and see if I can get into it.
 

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Wasn't Mac OS classic's finder "spatial" (i.e. isn't that where they got the idea from)? If so, I wonder why OSX moved away from it, and I wonder what apple UI people (would/do) think about all of this?
 

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Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Wasn't Mac OS classic's finder "spatial" (i.e. isn't that where they got the idea from)? If so, I wonder why OSX moved away from it, and I wonder what apple UI people (would/do) think about all of this?

Yep the old school Finder was spatial. Gnome is hoping that this is going to be a evolutionary improvement over it.(I am guessing). Makes sense since most of Linux is designed to be a evolutionary improvement rather a revolutionary one in most aspects. (how well they do it is up to interpetation, of course )

Personally I think it's a good thing, the farther Gnome moves away from the "Linux's desktop is a shareware attempt at Windows" perception, the better. When people try something unfamilar it tends to open their mind a bit more, but by creating a interface that (by default) closely follows Windows conventions your going to invite many comparisions. Linux, of course, would lose in those comparisions since Windows is going to be better at being Windows then Linux can ever hope to be...

I am also supposing that the OS X people are going: "Finally Linux has almost caught up to OS 7, jood job (losers)".
 

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Originally posted by: drag<brI am also supposing that the OS X people are going: "Finally Linux has almost caught up to OS 7, jood job (losers)".



Has Nautilus added Spring loaded folders?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: drag<brI am also supposing that the OS X people are going: "Finally Linux has almost caught up to OS 7, jood job (losers)".



Has Nautilus added Spring loaded folders?

Doesn't look like it...
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: drag
What is "spring loaded folders"?

I'm not positive (it was added to Mac OS X in 10.2 or 10.3 but was in the classic OS), but I think if you are dragging a file into a folder, if you hover over a folder it automatically opens for you.
 
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