So what you are saying is if you have lots of money and it snows yearly then it is Northern? Hmmm, Interesting.
Why are you bringing money into this? I said nothing of the sort, nor did I intend to imply it. What I was pointing out is that DC metropolitan area is much more linked with the northeast than the "south".
As for snow, I do consider it to be one aspect of northern states, though not a huge criteria. Since our country is in the northern hemisphere, chance for snow and "northernness" are related.
DC and Maryland are usually considered to be part of the North. However DC is Northern to the core.
What makes them northern? You claim Virginia is a southern state...
Sorry for your failure in geography, but Virginia is part of the South. No matter how hard you try to deny it. It makes no difference how rich you are or how you vote. Your opinion doesn't matter.
Spell Mason-Dixon Line for starters.
Both DC and Maryland are south of the line. If you say Virginia is a southern state because of the line, then surely DC and Maryland are as well.
I know a lot of Virginians that would whip your ass for calling them part of the "Northern States".
My wife is from VA BTW.
First off, I did not call Virginia a northern state.
Really, both states (Maryland and Virginia) have areas that could be considered northern as well as areas that could be called southern.
Second, my response to your friends and wife:
Umm...okay? We have forum members here who reside in Virginia, who I'm sure would not take up violence because someone said Virginia is a northern state. SP33Demon for one, though I bet others in the NoVa area would concur with my assessment.
How about West Virgina or along the Appalachian Trail in Va they are poor and uneducated? What area do they fall under?
Honestly, I don't classify West Virginia as anything besides West Virginia. For Virginia, I consider NoVa more northern. I can't speak as much about points south, as I haven't spent much time down there.
I don't know what you're talking about poor and uneducated though, I don't recall claiming that people in the south are poor and uneducated. I attended a wedding just outside of Charlottesville and (based on my small time spent there) the people were normal.
Your interpretation of my arguments is off. I never made absolute statements like, "Virginia is part of the south" or "Maryland is part of the north."
Lets see what the government says. As a heads-up, the sources are pdf files.
The Office of Management and Budget will use these standards to delineate Core Based Statistical Areas (CBSAs) beginning in 2013.
A CBSA is a geographic entity associated with at least one core of 10,000 or more population, plus adjacent territory that has a high degree of social and economic integration with the core as measured by commuting ties. The standards designate and delineate two categories of CBSAs: Metropolitan Statistical Areas and Micropolitan Statistical Areas.
Source
Now let's take a look at the Washington-Arlington-Alexandria (DC-VA-MD-WV) Metropolitan Statistical Area.
Source, code 47900. Subsets are 13644 and 47894.
47900 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV Metropolitan Statistical Area
Principal Cities: Washington, DC; Arlington, VA; Alexandria, VA; Reston, VA; Bethesda, MD; Rockville, MD; Frederick, MD; Gaithersburg, MD
13644 Bethesda-Rockville-Frederick, MD Metropolitan Division
Frederick County, Montgomery County
47894 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV Metropolitan Division
District of Columbia, DC; Calvert County, MD; Charles County, MD; Prince George's County, MD; Arlington County, VA; Clarke County, VA; Fairfax County, VA; Fauquier
County, VA; Loudoun County, VA; Prince William County, VA; Spotsylvania County, VA; Stafford County, VA; Warren County, VA; Alexandria city, VA; Fairfax city, VA; Falls Church city, VA; Fredericksburg city, VA; Manassas city, VA; Manassas Park city, VA; Jefferson County, WV
That seems like a lot of Virginia locations that are defined by the OMB to be socially and economically integrated with parts of Maryland and DC, which you said is "Northern to the core."
Look, I'm not claiming that either Maryland or Virginia is a northern or southern state. Really, they're transition states between north and south. To reiterate, you'll find both have areas that can be considered northern, and others that can be considered southern.
Will you at least agree with that?
On a side note, I spent way too much time on this. Ugh.