'Most certainly', huh? That's odd, as the economics literature on the effects of immigration on wages is mixed at best, with plenty of papers finding either little to no effect on wages for low skilled workers or sometimes even a positive one. For example:
http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/new-immig.pdf
What I'm saying is that the fixation on immigration, and the notion that all illegal immigrants have to be out now now now, is flawed.
Yes, there should be better enforcement of border controls and illegal immigration in the first place. But is building an extremely expensive (and possibly ineffective) wall going to help? Is deporting a legion of people all at once wise versus a gradual program or (gasp) giving some of them a path to legal status where they have to be paid more?
Also, remember: illegal immigrants frequently take the jobs that legal residents don't want. Congratulations, you just opened up a bunch of avenues for gardeners, crop pickers and hotel housekeepers. This has no effect on the wages of many Americans.
And it's funny that you talk about improving wages when you voted for the candidate least likely to increase the minimum wage or otherwise improve working conditions
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/14/alabama-immigration-law-workersNow now now?? Really? How long has this been a problem, 40, 50 + years? That's what you call "now now now". For the first time in at least half a century we have someone who is showing any sign of wanting to deal with the problem.... and the left goes howling mad with tantrums at the audacity of someone wanting to address the problem.
Yes, and yes. You can't have a policy if you can't keep more people from coming in (or people coming back once you get them out). So yes, you need a wall as a start. Only then can you have a meaningful conversation about policy.
Ah yes, the tried and true "jobs Americans do not want" nonsense. Guess what, there's no such thing as a job that Americans do not want. There are "jobs that not enough Americans want at the price the employer wants to pay". Instead of doing what normally should occur: offering higher wages to get people to do the job, the answer has been to import illegals willing to do the jobs for low wages. Is it any surprise then that wages are stagnant? Normally, when demand is higher than supply, the price goes up to reach equilibrium. When you add new supply to meet demand, the price (wages) doesn't need to go up. Shocking how economics works no?
Increasing minimum wages is just a distortion of the job market, it doesn't fix the fundamental underlying factors that are setting the prices. An improving economy improves working conditions, not drivel about forcing McDonalds to pay someone $15 per hour to flip a burger and thus forcing the company to get rid of the jobs altogether in favor of kiosks.
"Ah yes, the tried and true "jobs Americans do not want" nonsense. Guess what, there's no job that Americans do not want. There are "jobs that not enough Americans want at the price the employer wants to pay". Instead of doing what normally should occur: offering higher wages to get people to do the job, the answer has been to import illegals willing to do the jobs for low wages. Is it any surprise then that wages are stagnant? Normally, when demand is higher than supply, the price goes up to reach equilibrium. When you add new supply to meet demand, the price (wages) doesn't need to go up. Shocking how economics works no?"
Thank you PokerGuy.!
Berkeley. lol
The key portion "using our estimates......" lol
Again, supply and demand. You can do small scale studies of particular locations or situations and come to whatever conclusions you've decided you want. Unless you can show that somehow supply and demand curves have ceased to matter, it's all just drivel. No matter how you slice it, there is no conceivable way that adding more supply of unskilled labor causes a rise in the wages for unskilled labor.
PokerGuy said it first, but it was so spot on and in line with my observations that it needed to be repeated.That's sounds very racist to me. How dare economics and the real world work like.
Berkeley. lol
The key portion "using our estimates......" lol
Again, supply and demand. You can do small scale studies of particular locations or situations and come to whatever conclusions you've decided you want. Unless you can show that somehow supply and demand curves have ceased to matter, it's all just drivel. No matter how you slice it, there is no conceivable way that adding more supply of unskilled labor causes a rise in the wages for unskilled labor.
ID would be government issued ID. Almost everyone carries government ID. You need ID to open a bank account, close a bank account, buy alcohol, sometimes just to enter a bar, buy cigarettes, drive a car (a large percentage of Americans drive to work). For the people who do not drive cars, their bus pass is usually in their wallet.Is ID a specific thing or anything that meets certain criteria? (Does it have to be an "official" ID or can it be, say, an entry pass for work?)
In Washington, you need the license with you at all times while operating a vehicle. Not having a license at all is one thing, but not being able to present a license is also a crime. What happens after failing to present a license is also at the discretion of the police officer. With no photo ID, they have no way of knowing if you are who you say you are. You say your name is John Smith, and the computer says John Smith owns this car and has a valid license, but they have no proof that you really are John Smith. The police have the legal right to impound your car and tell you to walk home. When you find your license, you can go down to the impound lot, pay the $1000 for towing and impound fees, and you get your car back.We don't need to carry a driver's license, if you get stopped by the police you have 7 days to turn up at the cop shop and show it.
Is ID a specific thing or anything that meets certain criteria? (Does it have to be an "official" ID or can it be, say, an entry pass for work?)
We don't need to carry a drivers license, if you get stopped by the police you have 7 days to turn up at the cop shop and show it.
90% chance of being a criminal.
All negative news is fake? What are you talking about, this isn't even negative news. This would be a good thing.
I specifically it "could be" fake news, I didn't say it was. I'm just aware that you can't trust half the stuff most of the lefty media says because it's likely fake. Nothing more, nothing less.
And yeah, we figured you'd be jerking off to the thought of fewer brown people in the US.
I never said they shouldn't? They should. I just pointed out that there are illegals that are not "brown" too. They should also be deported. The usual race baiting was going on and I called him on it.
Why do you hate the jerb creators?Why not target business owners who hire illegals?
Why do you hate the jerb creators?
Now now now?? Really? How long has this been a problem, 40, 50 + years? That's what you call "now now now". For the first time in at least half a century we have someone who is showing any sign of wanting to deal with the problem.... and the left goes howling mad with tantrums at the audacity of someone wanting to address the problem.
Yes, and yes. You can't have a policy if you can't keep more people from coming in (or people coming back once you get them out). So yes, you need a wall as a start. Only then can you have a meaningful conversation about policy.
Ah yes, the tried and true "jobs Americans do not want" nonsense. Guess what, there's no such thing as a job that Americans do not want. There are "jobs that not enough Americans want at the price the employer wants to pay". Instead of doing what normally should occur: offering higher wages to get people to do the job, the answer has been to import illegals willing to do the jobs for low wages. Is it any surprise then that wages are stagnant? Normally, when demand is higher than supply, the price goes up to reach equilibrium. When you add new supply to meet demand, the price (wages) doesn't need to go up. Shocking how economics works no?
Increasing minimum wages is just a distortion of the job market, it doesn't fix the fundamental underlying factors that are setting the prices. An improving economy improves working conditions, not drivel about forcing McDonalds to pay someone $15 per hour to flip a burger and thus forcing the company to get rid of the jobs altogether in favor of kiosks.
I know you like to race bait a lot, but there are plenty of illegals that are not from Mexico or the Middle East. Plenty of white illegals too. And getting criminal illegals out of here is not a bad thing. Not the way he suggested, but overall.