Apologist in Chief in Japan

[LegendKiller]

Yeah.... Which is why Obama didn't apologize and why he highlighted and focused on that 70 years of a fine relationship.
If you weren't so mental you'd actually think his speech was a good one and struck exactly the tone that you think it should have struck. But....

More personal attacks. Great job.

 

[ivwshane]

More personal attacks. Great job.

Nope, just pointing out the facts. President Obama said the very thing you said but instead of you accepting what was said you went ape shit and created a thread that Obama was saying something he clearly didn't say.

If its not a mental issue with you then its trolling. Let us know which one it is so we can take the appropriate action.

 

[JSt0rm]

This is serious business. If we apologize to the Japanese they will see us as weak and they will attack us with all their jav girls and anime.

 

[LegendKiller]

Nope, just pointing out the facts. President Obama said the very thing you said but instead of you accepting what was said you went ape shit and created a thread that Obama was saying something he clearly didn't say.

If its not a mental issue with you then its trolling. Let us know which one it is so we can take the appropriate action.

No, you decided to attack me personally. But that's okay, I'll forgive you, you'll say sorry eventually, just like Obama.

The implicit apology is there. The timing wasn't surprising and it is a clear message to Japan - we don't care about our little holiday, they represent the past, our "intellectualism" is the future.

 

[LegendKiller]

This is serious business. If we apologize to the Japanese they will see us as weak and they will attack us with all their jav girls and anime.

Hey, they are the JV team anyway.

Ohh, shit.

 

[zinfamous]

There was no apology but I'm also not comfortable with our sitting president visiting Hiroshima where it might be perceived as such, and it's particularly distasteful so close to Memorial Day. We wouldn't expect the Japanese prime minister to visit Pearl Harbour making speeches.

Maybe this solidifies ties with Japan even more though which is a good thing to counteract China's influence in the region, same with the Vietnam visit.

Why not?

would it piss you off if they did?

as to your second point: exactly.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Why not?

would it piss you off if they did?

as to your second point: exactly.

Not me, but it might not sit well with veterans or those who lost loved ones fighting in the Pacific.

 

[ivwshane]

No, you decided to attack me personally. But that's okay, I'll forgive you, you'll say sorry eventually, just like Obama.

The implicit apology is there. The timing wasn't surprising and it is a clear message to Japan - we don't care about our little holiday, they represent the past, our "intellectualism" is the future.

Are you or are you not the creator of this thread? Do you think your threads and posts should be free of criticism and scrutiny?

There was no apology no matter how convincing the infowars article was to you.

 

[ivwshane]

Not me, but it might not sit well with veterans or those who lost loved ones fighting in the Pacific.

Like the veterans?

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2001/Dec/03/mn/mn01a.html

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/gen...-japan-to-visit-the-place-he-was-held-captive

http://m.military.com/daily-news/2015/12/11/nothing-forgive-us-vet-crashed-plane-back-japan.html

I'm sure there are many veterans who were unable to forgive but most psychologist will tell you that forgiving is a step toward healing.

 

[senseamp]

You can always rely on Republicans to say something stupid when normal people are talking.

 

[umbrella39]

Meh, typical liberal group.

Yep! Typical truth that he didn't even come close to apologizing. The truth continues to have an extreme far left leaning liberal bias to liars like you...

 

[Grooveriding]

Posting in a self-ownage thread.

 

[Vic]

Subtly is lost upon the fear-based mindset.

 

[Jaskalas]

WTF that was no apology. not once did he even come close to it in that speech.

He just talked about the evil men do. and as civilized nations that we should do our best to avoid it.

I want to rip and tear into the moral relativism on display in those words.

But there are multiple meanings to be found, and it's difficult to know which to focus on. "The evil men do" could be slander on US action and participation in WW2. Or it could be a neutral message geared towards the purpose of unity and healing. Moving on, as it were.

For myself... I grew up in a world where Japan meant Nintendo. Meant the creativity and enjoyment found in my childhood. To me that connection we share in a common culture not just humanizes post war Japan, but inclines me to call them friend. I hold no grudges for WW2, for that was my grandfather's war and not something that ever harmed me.

But I don't think I could stand whitewashing who it was the invaded all those Asian / Pacific nations, with the rape, murder and torture that followed. Nor would I forget that it was us who had to wage war to stop it. There was nothing evil in us waging that war, in our bid to stop those actions.

I will not approve of any person that would call that into question.

 

[sportage]

Well, very soon Donald will be president and he can drop nukes on whomever he chooses feeling no regrets.
So just hang in there.
Everything will be ok.

 

[brycejones]

To the OP:

He didn't apologize or come close to apologizing end of story.

I expect dumb ass threads like this from a couple of other posters around here, you're better than this.

 

[Orignal Earl]

The big news in Japan seems to focus around asking the US to try and stop the military related rape epidemic of it's children and women

 

[Darwin333]

Meh, typical liberal group.

I am the absolute furthest thing from a liberal, albeit I don't accept any political label, and I didn't think it was an apology either. More of a "war sucks and dropping nukes sucks, we humans should aspire to not do that shit again" speech.

I guess he could have rolled up and been like "See what you bitches get for fucking with us!" while simultaneously whipping out his dick.

 

[Darwin333]

There was no apology but I'm also not comfortable with our sitting president visiting Hiroshima where it might be perceived as such, and it's particularly distasteful so close to Memorial Day. We wouldn't expect the Japanese prime minister to visit Pearl Harbour making speeches.

Maybe this solidifies ties with Japan even more though which is a good thing to counteract China's influence in the region, same with the Vietnam visit.

Of all the things the president can do that will ping my give-o-fuck meter this doesn't even make the needle twitch. Japan is now a close ally, if their prime minister showed up at Pearl Harbor and gave a similar speech I wouldn't be offended either. Using Hiroshima as an example of why nuclear proliferation and our current HUGE stockpiles of nukes as being potentially catastrophic to the world isn't a bad idea. Saying that total war that pushes one side into dropping nukes sucks isn't a bad idea. Hoping that we as a species can get beyond doing shit like that isn't a bad idea.

I can't say that I would have done the exact same were I in his shoes but this damn sure wasn't an apology and I can't fault the ideas he expressed while speaking to one of our closest allies.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Posting in a self-ownage thread.

This^^^

The thread was just another rant against Obama with zero ammunition to back it up. Turning a somber speech about the brutality of war into an apology, gj op.

edit: if Grooveriding was nominating this thread, I second that nomination.

 

[JSt0rm]

This thread isnt anything special. Its the normal republican outrage machine trying to kick start another thing to piss people off with. The problem is the school of fish that gets pissed off as these dumb things gets smaller and smaller.

 

[michal1980]

This thread isnt anything special. Its the normal republican outrage machine trying to kick start another thing to piss people off with. The problem is the school of fish that gets pissed off as these dumb things gets smaller and smaller.

yes we should return to worrying about micro aggressions and men pissing in women's bathrooms.

you know, important liberal shit.

 

[Anubis]

i really don't understand why it matters if we (the US) apologize or not

why is this even an issue to anyone?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

yes we should return to worrying about micro aggressions and men pissing in women's bathrooms.

you know, important liberal shit.

and another person who is somehow blaming liberals for "the bathroom issue" brilliant marketing on that campaign, not only did they somehow make it an issue, they flipped the ownership of it and tainted it at the same time.
bloody brilliant.

 

[JSt0rm]

yes we should return to worrying about micro aggressions and men pissing in women's bathrooms.

you know, important liberal shit.

Thats not important libral shit. Thats called pulling single issue voters to the polls. Both parties love a good social issue during election season. Did you ever wonder why we never talked about this before now? Last election was about gay marriage. They had this in the pocket for this election. Next election it will be some other thing you never even thought of but will be horrified and outraged.