Apparently CBS execs OK'd the Janet bewbie thing...

[MercenaryForHire]

Sheesh, the way you guys are hyping this up, you'd think none of you had ever seen tits before.

Oh, wait.

- M4H

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

How dare you! :|
You're depriving your child, Child Protective Services should be called!
How dare you have morals that others don't agree with!

</sarcasm>

 

[conjur]

For more information about FCC indecency enforcement actions, see http://www.fcc.gov/eb/broadcast/obscind.html

For example, the Courts have said that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution and cannot be banned entirely. It may be restricted, however, in order to avoid its broadcast when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. Between 6 am and 10 pm - when there is the greatest likelihood that children may be watching - indecent material is prohibited by FCC rules. Broadcasters are required to schedule their programming accordingly.

The Courts have said that obscene material is not protected by the First Amendment and cannot be broadcast at any time. To be considered obscene, material must meet a 3-prong test:

1. An average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient (arousing lustful feelings) interest;

2. The material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and

3. The material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

Indecency is defined as language or material that, in context, describes or depicts, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community broadcast standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory organs or activities. Indecent programming contains patently offensive sexual or excretory references that do not rise to the level of obscenity. As such, the courts have held that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment and cannot be banned entirely.

It may, however, be restricted in order to avoid its broadcast during times of the day when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. As such, broadcasts -- both on television and radio -- that fit within the indecency definition and that are aired between 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. are subject to indecency enforcement action.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: John
The news channel said CBS issued an apology for the "boobie" shot. If it was unintentional why was she wearing a pastie?

The thing is upon further review. Its not a pastie. You can see the nipple and the areola. It silver thing goes around the nipple, it doesnt cover it up. And you can clearly see the areola. Of course it was only on air for 2 seconds. So you couldnt really tell. But you can tell on the HD shots. Technically CBS broke the FCC obscenity law. It will be fined, even if it was a 2 second shot. MTV and CBS fvcked themselves over.. Dont expect CBS to get any new contract to host the super bowl, Im sure the NFL isnt to thrilled with having to deal with this mess.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

Well, that's nice that you "police" your kids the way you do.

I, however, am glad that my parents didn't put such restrictions on me. They let me have a TV in my room and they allowed me to pretty much watch whatever I wanted. I turned out OK (I think). Kids are gonna be kids.

The problem I see with putting so many restrictions on kids is that when does it end? When do you allow them to START watching certain things? When they're 17, when they're 18? Puhlease. Let 'em learn as they grow up. I for one will not let my kid live a sheltered life...it just ain't natural.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

How dare you! :|
You're depriving your child, Child Protective Services should be called!
How dare you have morals that others don't agree with!

</sarcasm>

Morals = boobs are evil?

Maybe we should adopt some Islamic rules and have women not show any skin. That would be REALLY moral, right?

Let me ask you this, why is it ok for a woman to show pretty much her whole body in a bikini, but if you are fully dressed and show one boob it is bad? And let me go a step further, why is it ok to show the 90% of the boob, but once you show the nipple it is "over the line"?

 

[Mill]

What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

Well, that's nice that you "police" your kids the way you do.

I, however, am glad that my parents didn't put such restrictions on me. They let me have a TV in my room and they allowed me to pretty much watch whatever I wanted. I turned out OK (I think). Kids are gonna be kids.

The problem I see with putting so many restrictions on kids is that when does it end? When do you allow them to START watching certain things? When they're 17, when they're 18? Puhlease. Let 'em learn as they grow up. I for one will not let my kid live a sheltered life...it just ain't natural.

AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

How dare you! :|
You're depriving your child, Child Protective Services should be called!
How dare you have morals that others don't agree with!

</sarcasm>

Morals = boobs are evil?

Maybe we should adopt some Islamic rules and have women not show any skin. That would be REALLY moral, right?

Let me ask you this, why is it ok for a woman to show pretty much her whole body in a bikini, but if you are fully dressed and show one boob it is bad?

Yeah, what's worse: The Budweiser commercial with the babes fighting in bikinis for 30 seconds, or a 1.5 second boob flash that'd you'd miss if you blinked?

 

[Mill]

Children's hour is halftime of the Superbowl? I doubt most kids were even paying attention or saw what it was. It happened very fast.

 

Hrmmm...the parents vs. the geeks with no morals who have no kids arguing about what is best for children. I wonder who's opinion is more valid...

 

[Ketteringo]

Go look at drudge, it wasnt a pasty or whatever. Scroll down a bit for proof.

www.drudgereport.com

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Mill
Children's hour is halftime of the Superbowl? I doubt most kids were even paying attention or saw what it was. It happened very fast.

Again, see my post above referencing the FCC rules. And, maybe I wouldn't be so upset if my 9 year-old wasn't there watching.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

Well, that's nice that you "police" your kids the way you do.

I, however, am glad that my parents didn't put such restrictions on me. They let me have a TV in my room and they allowed me to pretty much watch whatever I wanted. I turned out OK (I think). Kids are gonna be kids.

The problem I see with putting so many restrictions on kids is that when does it end? When do you allow them to START watching certain things? When they're 17, when they're 18? Puhlease. Let 'em learn as they grow up. I for one will not let my kid live a sheltered life...it just ain't natural.

AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

Well, if you're a parent who is "policing" what you're kid watches, if you saw the first portion of the show with Justin "grabbing" and "groping" you would have sent your kids out of the room or changed the channel before it got to the "CLIMAX." If you didn't, you have no one to blame but yourself

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

Well, that's nice that you "police" your kids the way you do.

I, however, am glad that my parents didn't put such restrictions on me. They let me have a TV in my room and they allowed me to pretty much watch whatever I wanted. I turned out OK (I think). Kids are gonna be kids.

The problem I see with putting so many restrictions on kids is that when does it end? When do you allow them to START watching certain things? When they're 17, when they're 18? Puhlease. Let 'em learn as they grow up. I for one will not let my kid live a sheltered life...it just ain't natural.

AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

PLEASE stop the BS! If JJ were walking around the stage the whole time with a boob hanging out, you'd be just as pissed. Don't try and pull this "rape" crap.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Hrmmm...the parents vs. the geeks with no morals who have no kids arguing about what is best for children. I wonder who's opinion is more valid...

Exactly.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

Well, that's nice that you "police" your kids the way you do.

I, however, am glad that my parents didn't put such restrictions on me. They let me have a TV in my room and they allowed me to pretty much watch whatever I wanted. I turned out OK (I think). Kids are gonna be kids.

The problem I see with putting so many restrictions on kids is that when does it end? When do you allow them to START watching certain things? When they're 17, when they're 18? Puhlease. Let 'em learn as they grow up. I for one will not let my kid live a sheltered life...it just ain't natural.

AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

Well, if you're a parent who is "policing" what you're kid watches, if you saw the first portion of the show with Justin "grabbing" and "groping" you would have sent your kids out of the room or changed the channel before it got to the "CLIMAX." If you didn't, you have no one to blame but yourself

As I posted earlier, I wasn't in the living room at the time Justin first came on air. I only saw the last 10 seconds.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Hrmmm...the parents vs. the geeks with no morals who have no kids arguing about what is best for children. I wonder who's opinion is more valid...

Neither.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: conjur
AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

PLEASE stop the BS! If JJ were walking around the stage the whole time with a boob hanging out, you'd be just as pissed. Don't try and pull this "rape" crap.

Two different things.

And I'm not alone in seeing this as a type of violent sexual act.

 

[thirtythree]

edit: oops.. perhaps I'll come up with a reply in a moment

 

[OutHouse]

so what, America saw her boob. my bitch is Nelly stoking himself every 2 fricken seconds, it even looked like he had a stiffy.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: conjur
AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

PLEASE stop the BS! If JJ were walking around the stage the whole time with a boob hanging out, you'd be just as pissed. Don't try and pull this "rape" crap.

Two different things.

And I'm not alone in seeing this as a type of violent sexual act.

Are you high? That was a violent sexual act?

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Citrix
so what, America saw her boob. my bitch is Nelly stoking himself every 2 fricken seconds, it even looked like he had a stiffy.

You were looking too?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: conjur
AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

PLEASE stop the BS! If JJ were walking around the stage the whole time with a boob hanging out, you'd be just as pissed. Don't try and pull this "rape" crap.

Two different things.

And I'm not alone in seeing this as a type of violent sexual act.

Are you high? That was a violent sexual act?

That was my first thought when I saw that. And I'm far from a prude. That act was simply something that should not have been performed on Live Broadcast TV at that hour...or any hour, imo.

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.