Originally posted by: Harvey
What a nice, compassionate person you are. I wish you could end up pregnant with an unwanted child. Then, maybe you'd be qualified to open your ignorant mouth on the subject. :|Originally posted by: zendari
I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.
Thankfully Florida is not Cali and the people aren't interested in eroding parental rights.
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: umbrella39
17 year olds can be tried as adults. So can 14 years old. A girl in her teens should be able to decide if and when and whom she tells.
Show me a 14 year old girl tried as an adult in recent years?
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Harvey
What a nice, compassionate person you are. I wish you could end up pregnant with an unwanted child. Then, maybe you'd be qualified to open your ignorant mouth on the subject. :|Originally posted by: zendari
I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.
Thankfully Florida is not Cali and the people aren't interested in eroding parental rights.
It's not exactly difficult to not be pregnant if you don't want to be.
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: zendari
Show me a 14 year old girl tried as an adult in recent years?
When did I say a 14 year old girl? They are treated as adults only when it is convenient it seems. When they get knocked up, suddenly they are kids again that need to tell mom and dad they are pregnant.
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Harvey
What a nice, compassionate person you are. I wish you could end up pregnant with an unwanted child. Then, maybe you'd be qualified to open your ignorant mouth on the subject. :|Originally posted by: zendari
I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.
Thankfully Florida is not Cali and the people aren't interested in eroding parental rights.
It's not exactly difficult to not be pregnant if you don't want to be.
It is when people such as yourself supply abstinence only sex education.
Frankly I don't know whether to show disdain or pity to you ...
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
This post has nothing to do w/ birth control, why would it be about abortion if someone had used birth control?
Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
This post has nothing to do w/ birth control, why would it be about abortion if someone had used birth control?
Of course it doesn't but damn at 17years old you could be smarter and save yourself from a costly medical procedure.Not that am bashing abortion at all but being a bit smarter helps in the long run.
Originally posted by: zendari
Show me a 14 year old girl tried as an adult in recent years?
Originally posted by: Beowulf
What happened to condoms and birth control? If you plan to sleep around you might as well be smart about it.Its not rocket science or anything complicated.
Originally posted by: Yzzim
So now the courts get to decide at what age children no longer need to follow the wishes of their parents? Especially when she's still living at home? Doesn't that seem a little overboard to anyone?
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: zendari
Family values means respect for your parents not open defiance.
She wrecked her own chances of becoming a healthy and productive citizen when she decided to spread her legs and have a child.
I have no compassion for those who knowingly commit wrongdoing and murder.
And it would be people like you who oppose her getting decent sex ed in schools, oppose birth control, and show no interest in making adoption affordable for a normal family.
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Harvey
What a nice, compassionate person you are. I wish you could end up pregnant with an unwanted child. Then, maybe you'd be qualified to open your ignorant mouth on the subject. :|Originally posted by: zendari
I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.
Thankfully Florida is not Cali and the people aren't interested in eroding parental rights.
It's not exactly difficult to not be pregnant if you don't want to be.
It is when people such as yourself supply abstinence only sex education.
Frankly I don't know whether to show disdain or pity to you ...
Abstinence is 100% successful at preventing pregnancy.
It really takes the liberal brain trust to figure out how to use a condom.
Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
Originally posted by: zendari
Show me a 14 year old girl tried as an adult in recent years?
12 year-old boy good enough?
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0312/27/cst.03.html
Originally posted by: Beowulf
What happened to condoms and birth control? If you plan to sleep around you might as well be smart about it.Its not rocket science or anything complicated.
To a religous family, contraception might as well be rocket science. If she knew enough about birth control she wouldn't be in this situation. It's pretty common for kids in heavilly religious families to have abortions, how ironic that may be.
Originally posted by: EatSpam
That's the thing about kids in religious families, despite all their Jesus and beatings and prayers, they're just as horny as kids from those dangerous "librul" families. The religious kid goes out, has sex, totally ignorant of birth control options, pregnancy, STDs, etc. Then when she ends up pregnant, her sinful ways are blamed, instead of the parent taking responsibility for not educating their child.
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: zendari
Family values means respect for your parents not open defiance.
She wrecked her own chances of becoming a healthy and productive citizen when she decided to spread her legs and have a child.
I have no compassion for those who knowingly commit wrongdoing and murder.
And it would be people like you who oppose her getting decent sex ed in schools, oppose birth control, and show no interest in making adoption affordable for a normal family.
This is all about sex being t3h d3v1L. It's not good enough that some people who choose to have sex will have consequences to deal with - zendari and his ilk would like every person who chooses to have premarital sex to instantly be 8 months pregnant, on the street, and dying of AIDs. Or at least that's what you get if you add up all of zendari's comments on the matter.
Making this happen of course requires discouraging the use of birth control, condoms, and any other measures that reduce various risks for people who have sex; when your basis is some sort of twisted moral imperative, you need to work to increase risks, not reduce them.
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Harvey
What a nice, compassionate person you are. I wish you could end up pregnant with an unwanted child. Then, maybe you'd be qualified to open your ignorant mouth on the subject. :|Originally posted by: zendari
I hope her parents do find out and toss her out of the house.
Thankfully Florida is not Cali and the people aren't interested in eroding parental rights.
It's not exactly difficult to not be pregnant if you don't want to be.
It is when people such as yourself supply abstinence only sex education.
Frankly I don't know whether to show disdain or pity to you ...
Abstinence is 100% successful at preventing pregnancy.
It really takes the liberal brain trust to figure out how to use a condom.
You hypocrite, out of one side of your mouth you say abstinence only education, then out of the other you say birth control. You don't see the hypocrisy?
And your response, to bash liberals again, how typical of you.
You know something, I always considered myself moderate until your type came along and told me I was liberal for not agreeing with you.
People like you make me proud to take up the title 'Liberal'.
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: zendari
Show me a 14 year old girl tried as an adult in recent years?
When did I say a 14 year old girl? They are treated as adults only when it is convenient it seems. When they get knocked up, suddenly they are kids again that need to tell mom and dad they are pregnant.
Sorry, a 14 year old regardless of gender. I've never heard of one being tried as an adult in recent years.
Teen To Be Tried As Adult In Beating Case
Fitch High incident caught on videotape
Published on 11/3/2005
Editor's note: The Day has a policy of not publishing the names of young people involved in juvenile criminal cases, which by law are not open to the public. The following news story concerns a 14- year-old whose assault case was moved from juvenile court to New London Superior Court after a judge determined the seriousness of the alleged crime warrants that he be tried as an adult. In light of the judge's ruling and the public identification of the teenager and his alleged crime,The Day is covering the story and is identifying the accused.
A 14-year-old teenager will be tried as an adult for allegedly assaulting a fellow Robert E. Fitch Senior High School student while a friend of the assailant videotaped the attack.
Allen Nielsen of 191 Quaker Farm Road, Mystic, has been charged with second-degree assault in the September attack on Groton school grounds.
Nielsen's case was transferred Wednesday from juvenile court to New London Superior Court to determine if the case should be heard in the adult courthouse. Before the judge made a decision, the courtroom was cleared of all adults who were not involved in Nielsen's case. But no sooner than the court was cleared the public was allowed back in as both the state and the court decided to accept the case and try him as an adult.
The victim was punched and kicked, causing numerous injuries including fractured bones in his face. Nielsen entered a not guilty plea and his case was continued to Nov. 23.
Nielsen, who faces five years in prison on the assault charge, may face more charges as Assistant State's Attorney Paul Narducci said the prosecution is considering whether it will tack on a charge of conspiracy to commit second-degree assault, a penalty that carries an additional five years in prison.
Judge Susan Handy placed him under house arrest, where he will wear an electronic monitoring device. He is only allowed to leave the house to go to tutoring, counseling and family and religious events. Handy said that if Nielsen did not obey the court's rules, he would be sent to jail.
The juvenile court had released Nielsen on a promise to appear in court. Handy said that if he were an adult, Nielsen would easily face a bond in the range of $250,000 to $500,000.
Handy said the state has a strong case and evidence, including the videotape that was made by another juvenile who allegedly planned the attack with Nielsen. Handy said it was not a matter of whether Nielsen will serve time but how long he will spend in jail.
?The video is absolutely outrageous,? said Handy. ?This was a planned conspiracy to attack the innocent victim and it's all on tape. This defendant is actually the one that perpetuated the assault.?
The case of the juvenile who videotaped the attack will be transferred from the juvenile court to the Superior Court for the court to determine whether that juvenile also should be tried as an adult.
Originally posted by: ntdz
I think minors should be forced to notify their parents, but I don't think their parents should be able to stop them from getting an abortion.
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: EatSpam
That's the thing about kids in religious families, despite all their Jesus and beatings and prayers, they're just as horny as kids from those dangerous "librul" families. The religious kid goes out, has sex, totally ignorant of birth control options, pregnancy, STDs, etc. Then when she ends up pregnant, her sinful ways are blamed, instead of the parent taking responsibility for not educating their child.
Because it's so damn difficult to figure out how to use birth control on your own.
If you're going to stick your pecker into holes or spread your legs for a 14 year old pimple farmer you'll get what's "coming" to you.
If you're living on someone else's bill you play by their rules or GTFO.
There is a huge difference between blind obedience and outright defiance and disrespect.
If you don't give a sh!t about the 'rents why are you living with them?
Like I said in the other thread any minor girl that gets an abortion should immediately become a legal adult and parents freed from responsibilities.