You really should stick to the topic, child, instead of veering elsewhere. I am not an Apple customer but investor and this clearly puts a smile on my face. I don't "hate" any firm. I just have zero respect for predatory firms that ape innovators. And the numbers speak for themselves. Samsung? Their numbers are nebulous. It takes an army of analysts to even guess what their sales are.
I wonder how many people will continue to pay it?
Absolutely. A ton of pent up demand for a larger iphone is mostly going to hurt android as that's where the users will be coming from.
It'll be interesting when the cell companies finally kill subsidies for phones. Its obvious they're trying. The extra 'apple tax' will really become more apparent then. I wonder how many people will continue to pay it?
Well, here's the thing: if an end to subsidies hurts Apple (I don't think it will), it'll also hurt every company with a significant emphasis on high-end phones. Off-contract, the pricing for the iPhone, Samsung's Galaxy S series, LG's G series and other advanced hardware is about the same -- between $600-650 up front. If Android succeeded due to the pricing shift, it'd be because Apple simply doesn't sell mid-range phones as many would define them... and that's assuming that people in North America/Europe decide that mid-range is "good enough."
Well, here's the thing: if an end to subsidies hurts Apple (I don't think it will), it'll also hurt every company with a significant emphasis on high-end phones. Off-contract, the pricing for the iPhone, Samsung's Galaxy S series, LG's G series and other advanced hardware is about the same -- between $600-650 up front. If Android succeeded due to the pricing shift, it'd be because Apple simply doesn't sell mid-range phones as many would define them... and that's assuming that people in North America/Europe decide that mid-range is "good enough."
You really should stick to the topic, child, instead of veering elsewhere. I am not an Apple customer but investor and this clearly puts a smile on my face. I don't "hate" any firm. I just have zero respect for predatory firms that ape innovators. And the numbers speak for themselves. Samsung? Their numbers are nebulous. It takes an army of analysts to even guess what their sales are.
How will Samsung respond? With new commercials talking about committed iPhones fans are to the brand (insulting the very people they're trying to switch, really smart marketing) or how iPhones are this, that or the third? I'm waiting with bated breath
Compared to the Note 3, the Note 4 has more Samsung crap than ever before..
For some reason, Samsung has been ashamed to show their numbers for a couple of years
Absolutely. A ton of pent up demand for a larger iphone is mostly going to hurt android as that's where the users will be coming from.
It'll be interesting when the cell companies finally kill subsidies for phones. Its obvious they're trying. The extra 'apple tax' will really become more apparent then. I wonder how many people will continue to pay it?
Honestly I see an end to subsidies hurting flagship Android phones. Apple has built enough differentiation and loyalty where their flagship buyers will likely continue to buy their products (on Jump/Leap type programs).
Instead, I think it's Android flagship buyers who are likely to be willing to go with a year old phone or good enough mid-range phone to save a bunch of coin. Lowering subsidies would make the US closer to other markets where flagships make up a smaller sales percentage.
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It'll hurt the high end in general. Especially since there are a lot of 'good enough' phones at half the price. Iphones however get upto almost a grand if you get the big memory models. For android at least, nothing really sells at MSRP if you're not an idiot. Apple products are much more difficult to find discounted. It'll just make the real cost a lot more apparent.
Eh, the discounts aren't necessarily reflecting the "real" costs so much as the companies' trouble selling their products. Samsung got much more aggressive about GS5 price cuts last year after it was pretty clear that it had overestimated demand. I actually kinda like it when companies hold their ground on pricing, because it means they refuse to sacrifice their long-term health for the sake of short-term gains. It's part of why Apple just became the most profitable company on the planet while Samsung/HTC/Sony are all wondering where the money went.
Eh, the discounts aren't necessarily reflecting the "real" costs so much as the companies' trouble selling their products. Samsung got much more aggressive about GS5 price cuts last year after it was pretty clear that it had overestimated demand. I actually kinda like it when companies hold their ground on pricing, because it means they refuse to sacrifice their long-term health for the sake of short-term gains. It's part of why Apple just became the most profitable company on the planet while Samsung/HTC/Sony are all wondering where the money went.
If you're an apple investor then why don't you focus on their numbers instead of bringing the competitor's numbers into the topic? I'm an Apple investor and I couldn't give a rats ass how Samsung is doing. Apple's numbers can shoot up or down regardless of the competition.
Sounds to me like you're just a shit disturber.
Sigh, you can't be as petty as you are and then try to play the high road. As an Apple investor, I'm happy with their performance.
What I don't have is the need to be petty:
or petty and wrong:
or just oddly insecure:
If you're a real investor, you'd be able to have a honest conversation about a major competitor, their missteps, their current steps, and their chances of making a recovery. Your tone and comments make it pretty clear you're unable to do so.
You lose the argument right here. Ad hominem is a logical fallacy, and it takes away from your stance.
It says you are incapable of arguing the facts. You instead must resort to name-calling in order to try and save face. You are, in essence, conceding the point to the other side.
Apple can hold their ground because their products are highly desirable. Doing that kind of crap when you don't have a product as powerful as the iPhone is how you end up with a FirePhone. People say that other companies need to be like Apple but unless they are going to find a magic way to build a whole new OS with a million apps that is impossible.
All that separates a Samsung from a Huawei is the fact that Americans know Samsung because they have a Samsung TV and they have seen "The Next big Thing" ads during NFL games. Up until now Samsung was all smoke and mirrors, basically relying on the average person being ignorant of Android to get a foothold. Maybe they can come out with the type of product is at an iPhone level where it changes everything- they are trying with wearables and VR. Until then they are basically a marketing company.
Because it's the subject of the damn article
(Reuters) - Samsung Electronics Co Ltd (005930.KS) on Thursday reported its first annual earnings decline in three years, as strong chip earnings failed to make up for weakness in the South Korean giant's smartphone business.
The semiconductor division was a bright spot as Samsung posted fourth-quarter operating profit of 5.3 trillion won ($4.88 billion), in line with the 5.2 trillion won profit the firm guided for earlier this month.
Cry me a river. Dawheat deserved it because he kept going off tangent about SONY, Japan, etc... Things that had nothing to do with the OP. It's obvious a nerve was struck or else he wouldn't have done it so many times. I just called a spade a spade.
Some more evidence that Samsung chose Exynos 7420 for the Galaxy S6 (at least launch versions):
...Our lowered outlook for our semiconductor business for the second half of the fiscal year and our lowered EPS expectations, largely driven by the effects of a shift in share among OEMs at the premium tier, expectations that our Snapdragon 810 processor will not be in the upcoming design cycle of a large customer’s flagship device and heightened competition in China.
http://files.shareholder.com/downlo...B5C81/FY2015_1st_Quarter_Earnings_Release.pdf
Cry me a river. Dawheat deserved it because he kept going off tangent about SONY, Japan, etc... Things that had nothing to do with the OP. It's obvious a nerve was struck or else he wouldn't have done it so many times. I just called a spade a spade.
Because TouchWiz, Samsung is one-and-done thing for me.+1
I recently took the leap from an S3 to the note 4. TW seems a lot lighter than it was with on the S3.
Notice the low variance when it comes to the official numbers vs forecasts. Nothing to back up the numbers. There is no doubt in my mind that they are man-made. Who knows how bad things are at Samsung Mobile.