So the 4790K runs at a base clock of 4Ghz?
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Good point, I didn't think of it eating TSMCs capacity. You're prob right about them liking A6 but I think A7/8 are a bit too close for comfort performance wise.
Asus sells a 4ghz cyclone?
http://www.asus.com/Phones/ZenFone_Products/
Maybe Samsung Sells it to go along with Intel cellular chips?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-xmm-7260-lte-advanced-modem,27694.html
Oh I know maybe Motorolla has a 4ghz cyclone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_RAZR_i
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Intel probably loves the A7/A8/A9... from a business perspective (so far). Apple isn't directly competing with them with their core/atom line and its keeps competitors in the smartphone/tablet space behind in fabrication technology as Apple chews up TSMC's newest node capacity.
If Apple starts replacing core in their laptops however they may get concerned but that is at least several years away.
So the 4790K runs at a base clock of 4Ghz?
:hmm:
He's trying to prove his ignorance.Err, yes? http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz Not sure what you're trying to prove here...
Err, yes? http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz Not sure what you're trying to prove here...
I'd like to see a a review of a 4GHz overclocked Cyclone . I'd certainly be interested in its power consumption.
Good point, I didn't think of it eating TSMCs capacity. You're prob right about them liking A6 but I think A7/8 are a bit too close for comfort performance wise.
As long as apple doesn't sell their chips on the market they are not a large threat. Selling iphones/ipads doesn't deprive intel of any revenue. The problem is if apple can design a good enough chip it proves others can as well.
I think it's unlikely unless they have two CPU design teams working in parallel : one designed A8 while the other was working on an improved micro-arch; the latter could already have ES in 20nm and start working on 14/16nm. That still would be crazy...
Interesting! Was it specified whether these were 3 (SoC) design teams or 3 CPU design teams? If that is 3 CPU design teams, I guess Apple may surprise usI have heard (per David Kanter) that Apple has 3 teams.
Interesting! Was it specified whether these were 3 (SoC) design teams or 3 CPU design teams? If that is 3 CPU design teams, I guess Apple may surprise us
So the 4790K runs at a base clock of 4Ghz?
:hmm:
Good point, I didn't think of it eating TSMCs capacity. You're prob right about them liking A6 but I think A7/8 are a bit too close for comfort performance wise.
Interesting! Was it specified whether these were 3 (SoC) design teams or 3 CPU design teams? If that is 3 CPU design teams, I guess Apple may surprise us
Bro, let it go. First you talk about file size limitation being tied to 32-bit vs 64-bit processors. Then you compared a SUBSIDIZED iPhone to an UNSUBSIDIZED Galaxy S5 to show how the iPhone is cheaper. Now, you're questioning if the 4790k runs at 4ghz?
Look, I think the iPhone is a fine product. But, you're reaching too much. Don't have to be an apple apologist. There are many great phones out there. Competition is great. C'mon, man. Let it go.
why else is A8 outperforming all Qualcomm and Samsung SoCs by such a large margin?
Excellent micro-architecture.
Perhaps. If you read the anandtech article on A7, he states that there are applications that, when compiled in 64 bit, run substantially faster BECAUSE they are run with 64 bit registers.
I'm not sure the mechanics, maybe I'm wrong. On some level, it's just funny to me how spun up certain people get when I mention 64bit, but I trust the anandtech article.
Here is a hint for you: dig into SPEC results and see how some of the parts of SPEC are being compiled in 32-bit mode because they are slower in 64-bit mode. And this applies to 64-bit ARM chips too.Perhaps. If you read the anandtech article on A7, he states that there are applications that, when compiled in 64 bit, run substantially faster BECAUSE they are run with 64 bit registers.
I'm not sure the mechanics, maybe I'm wrong. On some level, it's just funny to me how spun up certain people get when I mention 64bit, but I trust the anandtech article.
There is more to a discussion than hardware, and I obviously know substantially more than you. I made a concise argument, you resort to name calling and lying about being knowledgeable and reading this thread.
Next time you want to go on a crusade for android in the CPU forum, at least take the time to actually figure out what thread you are posting in.
Well, I'd say that it's more that Samsung and Qualcomm just have not been keeping on top of things. Qualcomm has anemic quad cores, and Samsung hasn't even got anything custom out yet. Yes, Apple's done some awesome work, but the fact that their competition simply hasn't is what makes the gap so large.Excellent micro-architecture.
Perhaps. If you read the anandtech article on A7, he states that there are applications that, when compiled in 64 bit, run substantially faster BECAUSE they are run with 64 bit registers.
I'm not sure the mechanics, maybe I'm wrong. On some level, it's just funny to me how spun up certain people get when I mention 64bit, but I trust the anandtech article.
Well, I'd say that it's more that Samsung and Qualcomm just have not been keeping on top of things. Qualcomm has anemic quad cores, and Samsung hasn't even got anything custom out yet. Yes, Apple's done some awesome work, but the fact that their competition simply hasn't is what makes the gap so large.
What are you even talking about? Are you another one of these people that follows me from thread to thread?
Get a life, dude. Some people don't have time to look up clock speeds. Some of us have lives.
This is a discussion about A8 in case you had trouble reading the title. And you still don't realize that 64 bit does help process things faster, why else is A8 outperforming all Qualcomm and Samsung SoCs by such a large margin?