You don't need a 64bit machine to solve the FAT32 4GB file limit on XP. All you need is NTFS format, and the 4GB file limit goes away
I don't know the specifics of why this is the case, but I know the same issues existed with XP and FAT32 and disappeared on 64bit machines.
You don't need a 64bit machine to solve the FAT32 4GB file limit on XP. All you need is NTFS format, and the 4GB file limit goes away
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=can't+copy+>4gb+android
I am aware that NTFS fixes this, but it's a limit related to 32bit OS and NTFS is just a bandaid.
....And you are mentioning XP + FAT32 problem for a google search of Android because of?
You said it was "a limit of XP". Obviously, it's a limit that trancends both OS and File system.
precisely, and that's why I said "on XP you just need NTFS, not necessary 64bit OS", and you return me a search on Android.
That's two different products. The iPhone is for people who want a great screen, camera, battery life, CPU, and operating system all at the same time without having to choose.
You be trollin, homeboy! Exactly zero people have said "don't have viruses" in this thread.
Obviously android overhead is 4x what iOS had because despite half the cores at half the frequency with a third the ram of a note 3 it's still faster. Or is it all those viruses and malware that slows your phones down so much?
You've never used it before but have a lot to say about what it is and isn't. Anandtech just found a new reviewer!
You are a troll, as pointed out by Raekhelion, and if you want to advertise the fruits of your trolling that's your prerogative. You will not, however, get me to give a crap or spend more than a few seconds responding to you. I have better things to do.
RE ORIGINAL TOPIC:
The 4GB limit IS REAL and it only exists when you transfer to micro SD. That's the only time when android is truly "moving" a file that size anyway. This is a limit of 32bit android and I don't know why you guys can't accept this it's so easy to test. Just try to move a file from your S4 or S5 to microSD and BOOM error.
I don't know the specifics of why this is the case, but I know the same issues existed with XP and FAT32 and disappeared on 64bit machines. Coincidentally, there was an exactly 4GB limit to RAM in 32 bit machines. Why is 4GB such an important number, and does it have anything to do with 32 or 64 bit? I think it does and I think it's misleading to say otherwise.
It would seem to me that A8 is a very conservative effort by apple. I really would like to see GPU benchmarks, I'm sure there will be a review soon. When do NDAs end?
In case you actually can comprehend the topic at hand: I am saying that 32 bit and the 4GB limit transcend OS because it's related to the PROCESSOR being 32 bit and the OS being 32bit INSTEAD OF 64. Not much simpler an argument has ever existed.
The only limitation of a 32-bit CPU is that you cannot use more than 4GB of RAM.
Not sure you can grasp the topic.
Maybe if you can't understand why people post what they do, you are in the wrong place? :/
In case you actually can comprehend the topic at hand: I am saying that 32 bit and the 4GB limit transcend OS because it's related to the PROCESSOR being 32 bit and the OS being 32bit INSTEAD OF 64. Not much simpler an argument has ever existed.
What? you are the one claiming the "4GB" file size limit issue on Android is also existed on XP + FAT32 (which is correct), and the problem "disappeared" when switched to 64 bit (which I don't believe is true. You can have a 64 bit Windows and convert your file system to FAT32, and 4GB limit still holds). I am just merely telling you, as long as the MicroSD and XP are formatted to NTFS, you can get rid of the 4GB limit. So, as conclusion, the file size limit issue ISN"T transcends between OS in terms of storage, but the file system is, as someone correctly pointed earlier.
If you are here to talk about A8 that's the topic.
Debunking imaginary benefits of A8's 64Bit prowess that you madeup, is still talking about A8 I think.
TreVader, this is pretty common knowledge.OK finally a post that illuminates this issue. It seemed to me to be more than coincidence that both XP and Android had those same issues. Apparently they are both using FAT32.
I just didn't know they formatted the microSD as FAT. Why would they do that?
TreVader, this is pretty common knowledge.
FAT32 is popular because it's common. Any machine can use it, from Android to Windows to Mac OS X to Linux.
However, you'll run into the same issues even on Windows 7 64-bit and Mac OS X 64-bit. That's one reason why Apple has licensed exFAT. However, exFAT is not ideal, because a lot of machines don't support exFAT, and most consumer devices don't support it either. Try plugging in an exFAT USB drive into a Blu-ray Player, or an exFAT card into an Android phone, and it usually won't work. WinXP does, but you may have to install a driver.
Actually, some Asus Android devices do support NTFS or exFAT IIRC, but that's because they have a driver that other manufacturers haven't paid for.
Just about anyone in the memory and storage forum or the mobile devices forum could have told you this.Common possibly on this forum, and I don't think even that is the case. It took a good 3 pages with rtsurfer trolling along the whole way for somebody to explain it.
You thought wrong. FAT32 is still a common format for all sorts of devices out there, including Android, Windows, and yes, even Mac OS X. I would say FAT32 use on OS X outnumbers exFAT use on OS X by a factor of 100:1.Interesting about exFAT. I thought FAT32 was a relic that would never be used again. Good to know android uses all that fresh new tech from 1995.
Just about anyone in the memory and storage forum or the mobile devices forum could have told you this.
You thought wrong. FAT32 is still a common format for all sorts of devices out there, including Android, Windows, and yes, even Mac OS X. I would say FAT32 use on OS X outnumbers exFAT use on OS X by a factor of 100:1.
For iOS it's moot, because it generally can't use flash cards anyway.
Anecdote: my phone, running stock ICS (OTA JB update is buggy, and so is CM10), does not support exFAT. It will auto-mount FAT32. It will read and write to NTFS, but I need to mount the SD card with a 3rd-party app, first.TreVader, this is pretty common knowledge.
FAT32 is popular because it's common. Any machine can use it, from Android to Windows to Mac OS X to Linux.
However, you'll run into the same issues even on Windows 7 64-bit and Mac OS X 64-bit. FAT32 on these 64-bit OSes are still limited to 4 GB files. That's one reason why Apple has licensed exFAT. However, exFAT is not ideal, because a lot of machines don't support exFAT, and most consumer devices don't support it either. Try plugging in an exFAT USB drive into a Blu-ray Player, or an exFAT card into an Android phone, and it usually won't work. WinXP actually does support exFAT, but you may have to install a driver.
Actually, some Asus Android devices do support NTFS or exFAT IIRC, but that's because they have a driver that other manufacturers haven't paid for.
That's wrong: a single process can't use more than 4 GB (due to addresses being only 32-bit), but a system can have and use more than 4 GB. Look for Intel PAE. 32-bit ARM CPU can use similar techniques.The only limitation of a 32-bit CPU is that you cannot use more than 4GB of RAM.
RE ORIGINAL TOPIC:
The 4GB limit IS REAL and it only exists when you transfer to micro SD. That's the only time when android is truly "moving" a file that size anyway. This is a limit of 32bit android and I don't know why you guys can't accept this it's so easy to test. Just try to move a file from your S4 or S5 to microSD and BOOM error.
Seriously TreVader, have you not used computers in the 2000's or something?
Windows XP by default ran with NTFS and didn't have >4GB file issues at all. I'm pretty sure OSX was the same and I know Linux was the same as well. 32bit'ness has nothing to do with it.
As for _why_ FAT32 is so often used, that has everything to do with licensing (and how simple it was to implement). If Microsoft had made exFAT's license more accomodating we might all be using and not having this discussion.
I don't have an Android phone, but are the memory cards formatted as FAT32? If so, that's why. Not a hardware limitation.