StinkyPinky
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Im wondering whether it is yet another custom arm core or the beastly a72.
Kinda funny to think about that the most powerful ARM SoC will find its way to users who are exactly the kind that won't give a single hoot to it.
Nothing yet released about Skylake, that I can find. I don't think the Gen 9 HD 515 GPU in Core M 6Y's will beat whatever PowerVR has cooking in the A9X. Regardless, the Broadwell based Core M has always been pretty terrible at gaming due to the 4.5w TDP limit. I don't think that will change with Skylake?
It looks extremely bad for Core M Skylake GPU compared to the A9X. Core M Broadwell is already significantly slower than A8X. Intel claims 40% gain for Skylake on GPU, but A9X is 2x the performance of A8X. Simple calculation nets 2.3x the performance or Iris 540(15W eDRAM, 48EU) if that carries onto games.
Only thing that holds Intel back from making competitive chips are that they can fall back to the same spot - Windows market. If that is opened they'd be in trouble long ago.
I have to say, this is significant in a lot of ways if its true.
-It would mean ISA does have a meaningful difference. x86 holding it back
-Intel's process is nowhere near good as they claim.
Be weary to draw early conclusions based solely on a "optimized" performance claim, Apple knows how to tell the truth in a way that it looks far more promising.and the software team has worked together with our chip team to enable it to be maximum performance for the kinds of tasks we do every day
Let's talk again when "real-world" performance numbers come in, shall we? Apple makes some really nice & powerful chips, but let's judge them for how they perform in devices, not on stage.Back to all the discussion where everyone points out that Apples eventual aim is to combine iOS and OSX, dump Intel and just use their chips everywhere which imo has seemed pretty obvious for years now. A lot of Intel fans seem to disagree however.
That iPad Pro seems drool-worthy. I'd take that over a Surface Pro any day...
you base this statement on what metrics?
If it's Desktop-class, maybe Apple eventually will migrate Mac Book Air to the A* CPU too. That should save them a lot of money, using their own CPU. Also CPU does perform very well, and has good perf/watt.
His usage and necessities?
I'd say the opposite is true. Apple creating an iPad Pro, that competes more closely with the MBA than ever, ensures that the lines are remaining separate.
If an iOS MBA, or some other fusion device, was around the corner then the iPad Pro would not exist.
A Macbook running iOS would require touch capabilities, hence the only real difference left would be the keyboard. Make the screen detachable through some clever engineering and both products are suddenly equivalent. Therefore something prevents MBA and iPad Pro from co-existing while sporting both the same SOC and OS.Absolutely nothing prevents MBA and iPad Pro from co-existing to service both markets while sporting the same SOC and OS.
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CPU according to the presentation: A9X vs A8X up to 1.8x
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Looks like A9X is quad core at ~2GHz versus A8X with triple
core at 1.5GHz plus IPC improvements.
(In GB3 metric that would be: Single threaded ~ 2400, Multi
threaded ~ 8000)
New Core m3-6Y30 Geekbench score:
ST: 2485
MT: 4749
https://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/3404121
This is a low-end Core M, the fastest Skylake-Y version operates at 40-45% higher Turbo clocks. Can't wait to see how the best Core m7-6Y75 retail implementations perform.
If generational performance leaps continue to be 80% a year then eventually it is going to leapfrog intel.
It looks extremely bad for Core M Skylake GPU compared to the A9X. Core M Broadwell is already significantly slower than A8X. Intel claims 40% gain for Skylake on GPU, but A9X is 2x the performance of A8X. Simple calculation nets 2.3x the performance or Iris 540(15W eDRAM, 48EU) if that carries onto games.