Laptops cannot survive 4 days on a single charge, in contrast to phones. It's the exact opposite of what you're saying. Also, calling me uninformed so quickly shows something I guess...
First half of both those statements are true, second half are both opinions.In fact this is the precise opposite of a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy is Apple deliberately slows old phones down to make people upgrade. Reality is, Apple slows down the processors of phones with worn out batteries to make them last longer.
You're advertising a device with a certain battery life. At no point should you be deliberately be lowering that battery life after a sale to make up for a different deficiency
get off your fucking high horse. batteries degrade, there is no way to maintain both battery life and speed. They made the decision they felt would be the most benefit to most customers. Better to have a slow device than a dead device no?
That's the point though. No one's
deliberately lowering the battery
capacity after you've bought it, that's just an intrinsic part of the way batteries work. CPUs don't get slower unless someone decides to make them go slower.
That's bollocks. Old batteries don't make CPUs run slower unless you underspecced the battery to start with.
Or you could just make a removable battery, but that's crazy talk. Same reason I buy cars with the sparkplugs welded in, and the batteries sealed in the lower frame rails. Saves space, and keeps the center of gravity lower.
They absolutely do, but for ~$10 you can get fresh out the box performance, and a complete idiot can install it.Removable batteries still deterioatate.
They absolutely do, but for ~$10 you can get fresh out the box performance, and a complete idiot can install it.
For how much? How much does it cost to install? What percentage is that of a new phone? If you don't get my point, you truly are a dim bulb.Great, but I’m not really sure what your point is given it’s very easy to get a replacement battery from Apple too.
From Apple and cost what? 80?Great, but I’m not really sure what your point is given it’s very easy to get a replacement battery from Apple too.
For how much? How much does it cost to install? What percentage is that of a new phone? If you don't get my point, you truly are a dim bulb.
That's the point though. No one's
deliberately lowering the battery
capacity after you've bought it, that's just an intrinsic part of the way batteries work. CPUs don't get slower unless someone decides to make them go slower.
That's bollocks. Old batteries don't make CPUs run slower unless you underspecced the battery to start with.
Yes, but normally the CPU runs at a normal speed or the OS notifies you that it's gone into power saving mode.CPUs will only get slower when the battery has deteriorated to the point where it can no longer reliably power said CPUs. By gum, I think you are finally getting it!
Well you can expect them to spec either the CPU speed or battery capacity to be able to run the CPU at advertised speeds!You can't under spec a battery in terms of being able to prevent it from deteriorating. All batteries deteriorate. You cannot spec a non-deteriorating battery no matter how much you wish, hope and pray that you can (or you expect Apple to be able to for some reason).
Eh? The batteries in the iPhone degrade the same as other batteries, just that other phones dont get slower as well as getting less battery life.but battery life degradation is right?
and Apple decided it was better to degrade performance to prevent battery life degradation
i call that an intelligent design decision
but they do make battery life shorter
do you not understand that?
apple found a way to counter that battery life degradation. yes there are tradeoffs, but all engineering is about tradeoffs
apple made the tradeoff they felt served the most consumers the best
you may disagree with their tradeoff analysis, but they put a ton more research and thought into it than you did
just that other phones dont get slower as well as getting less battery life.
Citation needed.you're just trolling right? haha, so funny. not. iPhones don't lose battery life (at least as much as they would otherwise) precisely because of this tradeoff
Yeah, I guess a persistent notification telling you gone into limp mode would be a bit fairer.As far as the engineering goes it's a good compromise. The only real error I see, is that Apple could have been more forthcoming about it. "If it seems your phone is running slower, it may be. Time to have your battery checked." Or something along those lines.
Eh, some people just hate everything Apple does. And it shows up in every thread Apple is mentioned. I'm sure if they cured cancer, and gave it away with a free unicorn they'd come up with a reason to hate on it.Yeah, I guess a persistent notification telling you gone into limp mode would be a bit fairer.
After discussing the insanity of a removable battery, we could also talk about other crazy shit, like letting the user decide what to do. Give a selectable option to degrade performance, and let the user choose, but that would literally be anarchy.Yeah, I guess a persistent notification telling you gone into limp mode would be a bit fairer.
Citation needed.
You were disagreeing with "just that other phones dont get slower as well as getting less battery life.". So do apple batteries get slower and lose battery life as well as opposed to just losing battery life?for what? that slowing the CPU prolongs battery life?
I'd not be entirely happy with just a notification if I couldn't disable limp mode tbh. It would still be better than doing it and not saying anything to anyone.Eh, some people just hate everything Apple does. And it shows up in every thread Apple is mentioned. I'm sure if they cured cancer, and gave it away with a free unicorn they'd come up with a reason to hate on it.
AFAIK this was to stop them shutting down suddenly rather than to stop the battery life getting progressivly worse over time.
That absolutely makes the phone more useable — it apparently helps stop random shutdowns, which are a major pain. And I would think it helps with battery life in general as well.