Apple Announcement Oct 23rd - iPad mini? Live links inside!

[Aristotelian]

Having just purchased a Sony Z series, I was hoping to read this thread and see news of Apple really 'pushing bleeding edge hardware' in a small form factor. I bought my mom an iPad 2 last Christmas and she thinks it is okay - I don't have much use for tablets myself (the form factor simply makes no sense to my usage). I guess my point is I'm still waiting to see Apple make a paradigm shift - something like a macbook air but with top of the line specs (while maintaining battery life and form factor, if this is possible).

With smaller tablets - what use is there over a modern large screened phone?

 

[Red Storm]

Having just purchased a Sony Z series, I was hoping to read this thread and see news of Apple really 'pushing bleeding edge hardware' in a small form factor. I bought my mom an iPad 2 last Christmas and she thinks it is okay - I don't have much use for tablets myself (the form factor simply makes no sense to my usage). I guess my point is I'm still waiting to see Apple make a paradigm shift - something like a macbook air but with top of the line specs (while maintaining battery life and form factor, if this is possible).

With smaller tablets - what use is there over a modern large screened phone?

You don't need pay for a data plan with a tablet. That's really the main thing.

 

[cronos]

People don't buy the newest Android device for status.

Lame. I see android fans salivating at every new device and go through devices like toilet paper.

He's right that they didn't buy it for status though

Any Apple fan would have agreed to that statement without even thinking :biggrin:

 

[Face2Face]

I think it was a good sign for Apple to talk smack about the Nexus 7 Yesterday. It probably means they may actually feel threatened by it and the rave reviews it's been getting...?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I think it was a good sign for Apple to talk smack about the Nexus 7 Yesterday. It probably means they may actually feel threatened by it and the rave reviews it's been getting...?

Threatened by the estimated sub 1 million sales?

 

[grkM3]

Threatened by the estimated sub 1 million sales?

apple bitched and cried to best buy and told them not to carry it

 

[bearxor]

apple bitched and cried to best buy and told them not to carry it

Source?

 

[grkM3]

Source?

Its been all over the net.walk into a best buy and try and get a nexus 7

Here is one thread about it.best buy to this day still don't sell em

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1432571

 

[Dari]

Will anything innovative come out of Apple now that Steve Jobs is dead? I'm not seeing anything special here.

 

[cheezy321]

Its been all over the net.walk into a best buy and try and get a nexus 7

Great source. Compelling and rich. I guess we will just believe a hardcore android fanboi and take him at his word! That eeeeeviilllll apple!

Maybe it could be that best buy is going to carry its own android tablet?. Nah couldnt be. Lets blame eeeeeviiiilll apple, thats the ticket!

Ok i see you updated with a link to a forum post. Even more LULZ. Classic comment in the post. Its very fitting:

This is just some stupid conspiracy theory made up by the usual Apple haters to show how evil of a company Apple is in their warped minds.

 

[bearxor]

Its been all over the net.walk into a best buy and try and get a nexus 7

So... No source?

The only place I saw it at was a Macrumors post where they guy said he walked in to BB and was told by a blue shirt that Apple threatened to pull all their inventory if they sold a Nexus 7.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1432571

And the first reply pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject.

Edit: Ah, I see you linked that thread in your edit. Yeah, this rumor has no credibility at all. Considering BB sells Nexus phones and a dozen Android tablets from the Kindle Fire to the Note 10.1, I'm just not buying it.

 

[grkM3]

Bestbuy mobile sells phones threw carriers.this was brought up about the nexus having low sales and I pointed out that the biggest retail store will not or does not sell the nexus 7.

Go into a best buy and buy one....YOU CANT now take that rumor the way you want to but Intel did the very same thing with amd.

Bottom line is you can't walk into a bestbuy and leave with a nexus 7

 

[TheStu]

Will anything innovative come out of Apple now that Steve Jobs is dead? I'm not seeing anything special here.

I'll ask you the same thing that I have asked others.

1: What exactly would qualify as 'innovative' in your eyes?
2: Jobs passed a little a year ago, how fast exactly would you like them to 'innovate'?
3: What, that has been released in the last 2 years, would you qualify as 'innovative'?

This is like the people that complain that X isn't as 'intuitive' as Y. Then you find out that they used X for 5 minutes and have used Y for 15 years.

 

[Kingbee13]

The new Ipad Mini really makes the Nexus 7 look like such a great device/deal. Apple will still sell millions of them. Personally I have no use for either the Nexus, Ipad, or surface guess I'm getting old

 

[Red Storm]

I'll ask you the same thing that I have asked others.

1: What exactly would qualify as 'innovative' in your eyes?
2: Jobs passed a little a year ago, how fast exactly would you like them to 'innovate'?
3: What, that has been released in the last 2 years, would you qualify as 'innovative'?

This is like the people that complain that X isn't as 'intuitive' as Y. Then you find out that they used X for 5 minutes and have used Y for 15 years.

I know for me it's the software side that I'm looking at, not the hardware.

 

[TheStu]

I know for me it's the software side that I'm looking at, not the hardware.

Then answer the questions, cite examples of 'innovative' software that you have seen in the last year. From Apple or anyone. I think it would be more fair to limit it to the areas that Apple works in, so the new UI in the Cadillac ATS wouldn't count for example.

 

[bearxor]

Bestbuy mobile sells phones threw carriers.this was brought up about the nexus having low sales and I pointed out that the biggest retail store will not or does not sell the nexus 7.

Go into a best buy and buy one....YOU CANT now take that rumor the way you want to but Intel did the very same thing with amd.

Bottom line is you can't walk into a bestbuy and leave with a nexus 7

You're hilarious.

 

[bearxor]

I'll ask you the same thing that I have asked others.

1: What exactly would qualify as 'innovative' in your eyes?
2: Jobs passed a little a year ago, how fast exactly would you like them to 'innovate'?
3: What, that has been released in the last 2 years, would you qualify as 'innovative'?

This is like the people that complain that X isn't as 'intuitive' as Y. Then you find out that they used X for 5 minutes and have used Y for 15 years.

I know for me it's the software side that I'm looking at, not the hardware.

I agree that the majority of innovation has to come from the software side at this point. But I would argue that the last innovation we had in the mobile space was in 2007. Everything since then has been iterative.

 

[TheStu]

I agree that the majority of innovation has to come from the software side at this point. But I would argue that the last innovation we had in the mobile space was in 2007. Everything since then has been iterative.

That is kind of my point as well. People complain that Apple isn't innovative enough, and without Jobs they are doomed, except that A: Jobs wasn't infallible. For everything that can be listed as something that 'Jobs would never have done!' I can counter with something else that happened under his tenure and B: There really haven't been that many truly innovative things in the CE/IT space. And they certainly don't come at a pace of 1 a year.

 

[jpeyton]

Apple pushes the envelope in a few areas currently, namely industrial design and display quality (after they got Retina crazed).

Their first release of iOS was innovative, but every release since has been a slow iterative update. Most of the software innovations have been made on Android. iOS users would still be getting pop-up notifications if Apple hadn't pilfered Android's notification shade. People knock Android for fragmentation, but that is the cost of blisteringly fast development cycles with big UI updates.

Here is the main reason why Apple can update a 3 year old phone to iOS 6:

Can you tell which one is iOS 1? Here's a hint, Cingular didn't exist after 2007.

 

[Red Storm]

Here is a=the main reason why Apple can update a 3 year old phone to iOS 6:

Yep, it is the reason why I can't go with iPhones. Way too limited. Contrary to what many iOS fans say about Android customizing, many of us do it because you can make things much more efficient and better looking than your standard row of icons. One could argue you don't even have home screens on an iPhone, just an always open app drawer.

I want to see Apple open up and finally allow widgets and other customizations. It's more than just form, function is the bigger part of it.

 

[bearxor]

Apple pushes the envelope in a few areas currently, namely industrial design and display quality (after they got Retina crazed).

Their first release of iOS was innovative, but every release since has been a slow iterative update. Most of the software innovations have been made on Android. iOS users would still be getting pop-up notifications if Apple hadn't pilfered Android's notification shade. People knock Android for fragmentation, but that is the cost of blisteringly fast development cycles with big UI updates.

You know, you had me up to this point. I don't agree that Google has made any real software innovations in the OS. The notification shade has nothing to do with the way notifications are delievered in iOS. It just holds them once they have been delivered.

Here is a=the main reason why Apple can update a 3 year old phone to iOS 6:

Can you tell which one is iOS 1? Here's a hint, Cingular didn't exist after 2007.

Here's where we jump the shark. See, you had a pretty decent opening. Then you just have to go "ZOMG THE HOMESCREEN LOOKS THE SAME!!!"

Guess what?

ZOMG THE HOMESCREEN LOOKS THE SAME!!!

 

[Red Storm]

ZOMG THE HOMESCREEN LOOKS THE SAME!!!

Or you can change it to suit your needs. That's innovative.

 

[Face2Face]

Threatened by the estimated sub 1 million sales?

Sales suck right now. Who knows, they may continue to suck? It's just odd to me for them to bash the Nexus so hard.

 

[bearxor]

Or you can change it to suit your needs. That's innovative.

I disagree that it's innovative. All they did was take a desktop concept and put it on a phone. How is that innovative?