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Excelsior

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Overpriced. Oh well. I would have bought one had it been $100 less.

Agreed. Hell, even if it had been price $125 I'd be all over it, but $250? Come-the-fvck-on.


i know! those 4mega pixel digital camera, i'd be all over em if they were 50 dollars!

Uhh...wow. I spent 200 on my 3.2, and I am happy with the price. If you think 250 is reasonable for this thing, please end your life.

to me its reasonable when compared to the competitions prices and features. i myself wouldn't buy it, but thats because its not targeted at me.

if no other competitor has a matching product, and only has slightly cheaper offerings with sacrifices in product design, then a price can be said to be justifiable.

just look at your example. how are sony, sony, nikon, able to charge premiums over say kodak or a chinese brand cam? giant conspiracy? after all, kodac has 3mega pixel cams just as nikon and sony. but consistently, the kodaks are discounted. could it be that they are inferior?

anyways, for the most part, competition is more equal in the camera area. the companies have been at it for quite a while.

perhaps you should take another look at your camera. its a 3.2mega pixel only. did you use massive discounts or a hot deal to get it down to 200? was it a sale? or is it normally 200 dollars? somehow i doubt its regularly 200 dollars unless its of questionable design. that being said, it doesn't matter,i wouldn't spend even 200 dollars on a 3.2megapixel, its not enough detail, you might as well spend a little more and do your photos justice, instead of being penny wise and pound foolish. you can't go back and retake photos of your prescious memories. perhaps you are happy with the price, perhaps its "good enough for you", but perhaps you are a fool, a fool like the ipod purchaser you deride. perhaps a person would be happy to have an ipod of half the physical volume with a savings of 50 dollars if they didn't need all that space?


maybe you should end your life. ignorance and arrogant, rather negative qualities to be living with.

You do know that ever since Apple has been in business they've been known for taking advantage of their customers when it comes to price. Have an argument to back that up?

Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

For some reason you think that I am someone who thinks everything should be dirt cheap, well that isn't true. Fact is, how can you argue that Apple doesn't overcharge? How?

At least you admit that someone who pays 250 for that is a fool, good enough for me.
 

0roo0roo

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i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?
 

Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?
 

rsd

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No offense (well maybe), but if you are a poor student you shouldn't be worrying whether the IPOD is $200 or $250. Get a $30 mp3 cd player and be happy

I think we need to make kids nowadays (man I sound old and I'm only 25), use some of the technology that is only like 10 years old and see what they have now. I remember still using my old IBM-Clone XT and with dual 5 1/4" floppies and no HD. Kids today with their big hard drives!

I agree $250 is a bit higher than ideal, but wait 6 months and they will be upgraded version that are cheaper and/or larger capacity.


Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?

 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?



sorry, theres no getting through to you. its a market economy, and if a product comes out that blows ipod out of the water, prices will come down. the fact that you don't like the price and are poor doesn't make the price unjustified. if ipods sell at that price, then the price is fair. just because you cannot easily afford to buy something doesn't make the price unfair.

your quibble of 199 is based on what? a factual run down of costs of production/design/distribution of the 250 dollar ipod? a thoughtful comparison of the products direct competition and their prices? or is it psychological. just as where people percieve a product at 1.99 as much cheaper and desirable then at 2.05. the ipods is a leading edge product, not something standard like a vcr where all features are standard and differences are few. the fact is this, you save 50 dollars over the 15gb, and have a unit so small you'd lose it in your pocket.

why should apple make a 199 product? are there other compelling 199 mp3 players out there you can see as proof of concept? or are they all rather lousy?

poor college students shouldn't be buying mp3 players, even at 199.99, which is apparently chump change to a "poor college student"

it seems you are envious, are cheap, and not willing to wait for the price of technology to come down. welcome to reality where not everything is as you want. and not everything is easily stolen as an mp3 or movie. i'm sure your mindset is, oh, that album is way over priced, i think i'll steal it!

 

Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?



sorry, theres no getting through to you. its a market economy, and if a product comes out that blows ipod out of the water, prices will come down. the fact that you don't like the price and are poor doesn't make the price unjustified. if ipods sell at that price, then the price is fair. just because you cannot easily afford to buy something doesn't make the price unfair.

your quibble of 199 is based on what? a factual run down of costs of production/design/distribution of the 250 dollar ipod? a thoughtful comparison of the products direct competition and their prices? or is it psychological. just as where people percieve a product at 1.99 as much cheaper and desirable then at 2.05. the ipods is a leading edge product, not something standard like a vcr where all features are standard and differences are few. the fact is this, you save 50 dollars over the 15gb, and have a unit so small you'd lose it in your pocket.

why should apple make a 199 product? are there other compelling 199 mp3 players out there you can see as proof of concept? or are they all rather lousy?

poor college students shouldn't be buying mp3 players, even at 199.99, which is apparently chump change to a "poor college student"

it seems you are envious, are cheap, and not willing to wait for the price of technology to come down. welcome to reality where not everything is as you want. and not everything is easily stolen as an mp3 or movie. i'm sure your mindset is, oh, that album is way over priced, i think i'll steal it!

 

Hector13

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Apr 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?



sorry, theres no getting through to you. its a market economy, and if a product comes out that blows ipod out of the water, prices will come down. the fact that you don't like the price and are poor doesn't make the price unjustified. if ipods sell at that price, then the price is fair. just because you cannot easily afford to buy something doesn't make the price unfair.

your quibble of 199 is based on what? a factual run down of costs of production/design/distribution of the 250 dollar ipod? a thoughtful comparison of the products direct competition and their prices? or is it psychological. just as where people percieve a product at 1.99 as much cheaper and desirable then at 2.05. the ipods is a leading edge product, not something standard like a vcr where all features are standard and differences are few. the fact is this, you save 50 dollars over the 15gb, and have a unit so small you'd lose it in your pocket.

why should apple make a 199 product? are there other compelling 199 mp3 players out there you can see as proof of concept? or are they all rather lousy?

poor college students shouldn't be buying mp3 players, even at 199.99, which is apparently chump change to a "poor college student"

it seems you are envious, are cheap, and not willing to wait for the price of technology to come down. welcome to reality where not everything is as you want. and not everything is easily stolen as an mp3 or movie. i'm sure your mindset is, oh, that album is way over priced, i think i'll steal it!


what are you frowning about? He is absolutely right.. saying a ipod and zen are the same is like comparing a chevy to a bmw. Because you can't afford an ipod doesn't mean it is overpriced. Apple is the leading portable mp3 player seller in the world! seems like you are in the minority.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Hector13
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?



sorry, theres no getting through to you. its a market economy, and if a product comes out that blows ipod out of the water, prices will come down. the fact that you don't like the price and are poor doesn't make the price unjustified. if ipods sell at that price, then the price is fair. just because you cannot easily afford to buy something doesn't make the price unfair.

your quibble of 199 is based on what? a factual run down of costs of production/design/distribution of the 250 dollar ipod? a thoughtful comparison of the products direct competition and their prices? or is it psychological. just as where people percieve a product at 1.99 as much cheaper and desirable then at 2.05. the ipods is a leading edge product, not something standard like a vcr where all features are standard and differences are few. the fact is this, you save 50 dollars over the 15gb, and have a unit so small you'd lose it in your pocket.

why should apple make a 199 product? are there other compelling 199 mp3 players out there you can see as proof of concept? or are they all rather lousy?

poor college students shouldn't be buying mp3 players, even at 199.99, which is apparently chump change to a "poor college student"

it seems you are envious, are cheap, and not willing to wait for the price of technology to come down. welcome to reality where not everything is as you want. and not everything is easily stolen as an mp3 or movie. i'm sure your mindset is, oh, that album is way over priced, i think i'll steal it!


what are you frowning about? He is absolutely right.. saying a ipod and zen are the same is like comparing a chevy to a bmw. Because you can't afford an ipod doesn't mean it is overpriced. Apple is the leading portable mp3 player seller in the world! seems like you are in the minority.

I totally agree. :beer:
 

Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Hector13
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?



sorry, theres no getting through to you. its a market economy, and if a product comes out that blows ipod out of the water, prices will come down. the fact that you don't like the price and are poor doesn't make the price unjustified. if ipods sell at that price, then the price is fair. just because you cannot easily afford to buy something doesn't make the price unfair.

your quibble of 199 is based on what? a factual run down of costs of production/design/distribution of the 250 dollar ipod? a thoughtful comparison of the products direct competition and their prices? or is it psychological. just as where people percieve a product at 1.99 as much cheaper and desirable then at 2.05. the ipods is a leading edge product, not something standard like a vcr where all features are standard and differences are few. the fact is this, you save 50 dollars over the 15gb, and have a unit so small you'd lose it in your pocket.

why should apple make a 199 product? are there other compelling 199 mp3 players out there you can see as proof of concept? or are they all rather lousy?

poor college students shouldn't be buying mp3 players, even at 199.99, which is apparently chump change to a "poor college student"

it seems you are envious, are cheap, and not willing to wait for the price of technology to come down. welcome to reality where not everything is as you want. and not everything is easily stolen as an mp3 or movie. i'm sure your mindset is, oh, that album is way over priced, i think i'll steal it!


what are you frowning about? He is absolutely right.. saying a ipod and zen are the same is like comparing a chevy to a bmw. Because you can't afford an ipod doesn't mean it is overpriced. Apple is the leading portable mp3 player seller in the world! seems like you are in the minority.

I totally agree. :beer:

Right, cause I said they were the same. Can't read can you? Actually..I could go buy one right now, but it is overpriced. I still can't believe you guys don't understand that. Note: that makes you guys in the minority (those who think it isn't overpriced).
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Hector13
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?



sorry, theres no getting through to you. its a market economy, and if a product comes out that blows ipod out of the water, prices will come down. the fact that you don't like the price and are poor doesn't make the price unjustified. if ipods sell at that price, then the price is fair. just because you cannot easily afford to buy something doesn't make the price unfair.

your quibble of 199 is based on what? a factual run down of costs of production/design/distribution of the 250 dollar ipod? a thoughtful comparison of the products direct competition and their prices? or is it psychological. just as where people percieve a product at 1.99 as much cheaper and desirable then at 2.05. the ipods is a leading edge product, not something standard like a vcr where all features are standard and differences are few. the fact is this, you save 50 dollars over the 15gb, and have a unit so small you'd lose it in your pocket.

why should apple make a 199 product? are there other compelling 199 mp3 players out there you can see as proof of concept? or are they all rather lousy?

poor college students shouldn't be buying mp3 players, even at 199.99, which is apparently chump change to a "poor college student"

it seems you are envious, are cheap, and not willing to wait for the price of technology to come down. welcome to reality where not everything is as you want. and not everything is easily stolen as an mp3 or movie. i'm sure your mindset is, oh, that album is way over priced, i think i'll steal it!


what are you frowning about? He is absolutely right.. saying a ipod and zen are the same is like comparing a chevy to a bmw. Because you can't afford an ipod doesn't mean it is overpriced. Apple is the leading portable mp3 player seller in the world! seems like you are in the minority.

I totally agree. :beer:

Right, cause I said they were the same. Can't read can you? Actually..I could go buy one right now, but it is overpriced. I still can't believe you guys don't understand that.

May i propose that maybe, just maybe, that not all people are poor students who think $250 is unreasonable? Because you apparently think it is just the worst pricing scheme ever devised. As well you should, since you have take years of marketing, manufacturing, and design courses and have come up with some new way to manufacture hard drives the size of a business card, put them in a useable MP3 player with an excellent UI, and then find the right price point to offer the product to the largest target market.
 

TheShiz

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rip off, i got a mp3 cd player at best buy for $20. 700 megs of mp3s is still a lot, and cdrs only cost 10 cents. makes me wonder what we'll see in a couple of years though, 40 gig is a crazy amount of mp3s.
 

Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Hector13
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm sure that anyone that doesn't churn their own butter is a fool.


Ill give you that it may be reasonable when compared to competing products, but not cause of it's features but design. It's well known you can get a nomad zen that holds 30GB of space for only 30 more than the ipod. Sure, it's bigger, but how much more are you willing to pay for design alone?

the zens twice as big. its not just a little bigger. its interface isn't as good either amoung other deficits which matters if your going to search through 30gb of songs. if i made your cellphone twice as big so it wouldn't fit in your pocket, but made it cheaper, i'm sure u'd still buy it right?

you own a hundai? or a kia? or are you a bloody hipocrite?

*sigh* There is no getting through to you. Of course I don't own a hyundai or kia, I am only 17. Maybe I am just speaking for poor students, but still, $250 just doesn't seem fcking reasonable. I still can't see how you think it is. Do you not think it should at least be $199? Maybe to seperate itself from the rest of the line in terms of price and to offset for the loss of space?



sorry, theres no getting through to you. its a market economy, and if a product comes out that blows ipod out of the water, prices will come down. the fact that you don't like the price and are poor doesn't make the price unjustified. if ipods sell at that price, then the price is fair. just because you cannot easily afford to buy something doesn't make the price unfair.

your quibble of 199 is based on what? a factual run down of costs of production/design/distribution of the 250 dollar ipod? a thoughtful comparison of the products direct competition and their prices? or is it psychological. just as where people percieve a product at 1.99 as much cheaper and desirable then at 2.05. the ipods is a leading edge product, not something standard like a vcr where all features are standard and differences are few. the fact is this, you save 50 dollars over the 15gb, and have a unit so small you'd lose it in your pocket.

why should apple make a 199 product? are there other compelling 199 mp3 players out there you can see as proof of concept? or are they all rather lousy?

poor college students shouldn't be buying mp3 players, even at 199.99, which is apparently chump change to a "poor college student"

it seems you are envious, are cheap, and not willing to wait for the price of technology to come down. welcome to reality where not everything is as you want. and not everything is easily stolen as an mp3 or movie. i'm sure your mindset is, oh, that album is way over priced, i think i'll steal it!


what are you frowning about? He is absolutely right.. saying a ipod and zen are the same is like comparing a chevy to a bmw. Because you can't afford an ipod doesn't mean it is overpriced. Apple is the leading portable mp3 player seller in the world! seems like you are in the minority.

I totally agree. :beer:

Right, cause I said they were the same. Can't read can you? Actually..I could go buy one right now, but it is overpriced. I still can't believe you guys don't understand that.

May i propose that maybe, just maybe, that not all people are poor students who think $250 is unreasonable? Because you apparently think it is just the worst pricing scheme ever devised. As well you should, since you have take years of marketing, manufacturing, and design courses and have come up with some new way to manufacture hard drives the size of a business card, put them in a useable MP3 player with an excellent UI, and then find the right price point to offer the product to the largest target market.

Is it possible for you to forget who is buying the damn ipod?

Yeah..the worst one ever, I believe I used those exact words
. Apple didn't come up with the technology to manufacture hard drives that small.
 

Hector13

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Right, cause I said they were the same. Can't read can you? Actually..I could go buy one right now, but it is overpriced. I still can't believe you guys don't understand that. Note: that makes you guys in the minority (those who think it isn't overpriced).


Quote from here:

Apple does show some progress, with 31 percent market share of all MP3 players including the sub-$100 models and 55 percent revenue in market share.

who exactly is in the minority again?
 

Hector13

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Is it possible for you to forget who is buying the damn ipod?

apparently a hell of lot more people than you realize... note the article I quoted in the post above. It is the clear market share leader AND it is also one of the most expensive players out there. This is equivalent to porsche selling more cars than ford.
 

Fant

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If I handed you $250 to buy one and forced you to buy one...which color would you get? I'm leaning toward the blue but cant decide.
 

cchen

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$229 with higher education discount.... very tempting since I just sold off my 2g ipod....
 

mithrandir2001

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May 1, 2001
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Stop spending your money on this crap. Put the $249 in a safe place for a rainy day. There are storm clouds on the horizon.
 

0roo0roo

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Yeah..the worst one ever, I believe I used those exact words . Apple didn't come up with the technology to manufacture hard drives that small.

so why aren't other companies building ipod clones? they don't want to make money?
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Hector13
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Is it possible for you to forget who is buying the damn ipod?

apparently a hell of lot more people than you realize... note the article I quoted in the post above. It is the clear market share leader AND it is also one of the most expensive players out there. This is equivalent to porsche selling more cars than ford.

No, no, you misunderstood what I was saying. I meant "forget I am a poor student".

And they do make Ipod clones, where have you been.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
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inferior similar products. i meant completely equal to superior. doesn't exist. you intimated that since apple doesn't make the harddrives that they shouldn't deserve any price premium. well if its so easy to build from standard components, where are the ipod killers?
 

beachbreeze

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Originally posted by: Rickten
not surprised its overpriced. Apple is really banking on people buying this thing on looks rather than realizing they can get a better deal elsewhere.


Actually, I understand it uses a Hitachi microdrive that costs twice the price of the mini-iPod. I have read on photography fora that people are buying them just to open & take out the drives for their cameras. If that is the kind of deal Apple has managed to get out of Hitachi I would say that they are working hard to bring the price down.

If these tiny drives ever get commoditised I'm sure Apple will be able to offer better priced players in a couple of years. I wonder though, if hard drives will ever become as cheap as the analogue technology that makes a Walkman. I think there is more chance that Compact Flash will come down in price & replace these microdrives - it's already at 8GB... but still incredibly expensive. I think digital camera's need for greater memory as resolution improves will be the pressure that brings these memory prices down.
 
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