Apple apologists can suck it! CR no longer recommends iPhone 4 due to reception issue

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TheWart

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Let's not forget the phone has only been out for 2.5 weeks. If you really think they're not going to do anything, you blew it.


It's not polite to make people roll up their jump to conclusions mat!

lol
 

Imported

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I tried out one for the first time yesterday.. could not make the signal drop. Guess my friend got lucky.. and good lord that screen is gorgeous.
 

Kmax82

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I bought an iPhone 4. The benefits outweighed the antenna issues. I can make the antenna signal go down, but I've yet to drop a single call, and have had much better reception than on my 3GS. So *knock on wood*.. I love this phone "as a phone".
 

zod96

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Wow for me its the exact opposite. With my 3GS my reception was perfect while the Iphone 4 has been horrible. I've also dropped more calls in the month I've had the iphone 4 than the year I had my 3GS. I just sold my iphone 4. I'll pick up a refurb 3gs from at&t for like $100..
 

AMDZen

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I already posted the link above in response to you. Did you check out Anand's portion?

I read the whole thing. I realize some people had more serious issues, like yourself. It just seems like more of the people had very insignificant issues. Especially in the industry notables section:

I agree with the consensus that reception is generally better than on the older iPhones -- even with the Death Grip issue.
David Pogue

I'm able to make the signal drop (via the bar display) on my iPhone 4, but I can't get a call to drop.
Jacqui Cheng

I've either got lucky skin or a lucky iPhone 4, I think.
John Gruber

The most notable exception other then anands was:

I have regularly dropped calls and watched data grind to a halt when I am in an area with poor AT&T signal, but when the signal is fairly decent I have no problems at all.
Dieter Bohn

Maybe the signal is just awesome here in Denver. I don't think I'll ever know if this issue would affect me, just like with the cozip case I had on my 2G phone, the iFrogz Luxe Lean case I have on this thing will never come off. For the two weeks I went without a case on this thing, I experienced litteral stress just handing my phone to people. Rediculous as it may sound to some, I was always worried about dropping the thing and cracking or at least chipping the glass.

I dropped my 2G a lot over the 2+ years I owned it and I cracked the case a couple months before I got the iPhone4 - but that was it. This thing is even leaner then the cozip if that is even possible, and even with how thin the case is, and the fact it adds no bulk at all, I think it adds enough protection from drops that I am simply not worried now that its on. Bottom line: Its not coming off, and its pretty universally acknowledged that the issue goes away with a case on.
 

gorcorps

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I read the whole thing. I realize some people had more serious issues, like yourself. It just seems like more of the people had very insignificant issues. Especially in the industry notables section:







The most notable exception other then anands was:



Maybe the signal is just awesome here in Denver. I don't think I'll ever know if this issue would affect me, just like with the cozip case I had on my 2G phone, the iFrogz Luxe Lean case I have on this thing will never come off. For the two weeks I went without a case on this thing, I experienced litteral stress just handing my phone to people. Rediculous as it may sound to some, I was always worried about dropping the thing and cracking or at least chipping the glass.

I dropped my 2G a lot over the 2+ years I owned it and I cracked the case a couple months before I got the iPhone4 - but that was it. This thing is even leaner then the cozip if that is even possible, and even with how thin the case is, and the fact it adds no bulk at all, I think it adds enough protection from drops that I am simply not worried now that its on. Bottom line: Its not coming off, and its pretty universally acknowledged that the issue goes away with a case on.

Yes, AT&T is VERY strong in Denver. I've lived near Chicago and now Mississippi and am constantly disappointed by the coverage I get out here compared to what I got in Colorado. People in CO don't get the shitty coverage that others do apparently.
 

JC86

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While this has undoubtedly been a PR nightmare for Apple, I'd say the majority of iPhone users use cases anyways so its not a big deal to them. I'm still searching for a nice case, the bumpers just don't really do it for me. On the other hand, if they are handing out bumpers, they should refund or at least give itunes credit to those who bought a bumper already.
 

speg

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Let's not forget the phone has only been out for 2.5 weeks. If you really think they're not going to do anything, you blew it.

Apple on Wednesday invited select press to a special press conference to be held this Friday in California. Apple would only say that the press conference would be regarding the iPhone 4. No other information was available when I spoke with them tonight.

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/14/apple-holding-iphone-4-press-conference-on-friday/

And there you have it, no more whining that Apple is ignoring you and doing nothing about it.

Now the million dollar question is, what are they going to do about it?
 
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aphex

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And there you have it, no more whining that Apple is ignoring you and doing nothing about it.

Now the million dollar question is, what are they going to do about it?

My bets on a special coating of unicorn tears
 

charrison

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My bets on a special coating of unicorn tears

Evidence of a silent recall is being reported at gizmodo today. New phone appear to be different, the stainless steel appears to be less shiny due the new unicorn tears coating.
 

aphex

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Evidence of a silent recall is being reported at gizmodo today. New phone appear to be different, the stainless steel appears to be less shiny due the new unicorn tears coating.

:twisted:
 

TheStu

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You know it's funny, I was just talking to my roommate the other day about how if Apple does a silent recall and replace then they could get burned harder than if they just announced a voluntary recall. Something like 'Anyone that wants a free bumper gets one, anyone that wants to get on the waiting list to get their iPhone 4 replaced, can do that too.'

Bearing in mind of course that that waiting list would be months long.
 

Patranus

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Evidence of a silent recall is being reported at gizmodo today. New phone appear to be different, the stainless steel appears to be less shiny due the new unicorn tears coating.

1) Not all original iPhone 4s has the antenna issue
2) Newer iPhone 4s do not have the antenna issue (reported)
3) No apparent design change has been made to the phone

Considering that some of the original iPhone 4s did not experience antenna issues the problem is more likely a manufacturing issue (IE the manufacture screwed up an order of antenna parts) rather than a design problem on Apples part.

If ALL original iPhone 4s experienced problems than I would agree that it was a design problem that was corrected (apparently with a coating) but that is not the case.

I would suspect that this issue is not a wide spread as the media makes it out to be seeing as people who are dissatisfied are usually more vocal than those who are happy.
 

charrison

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1) Not all original iPhone 4s has the antenna issue
2) Newer iPhone 4s do not have the antenna issue (reported)
3) No apparent design change has been made to the phone

Considering that some of the original iPhone 4s did not experience antenna issues the problem is more likely a manufacturing issue (IE the manufacture screwed up an order of antenna parts) rather than a design problem on Apples part.

If ALL original iPhone 4s experienced problems than I would agree that it was a design problem that was corrected (apparently with a coating) but that is not the case.

I would suspect that this issue is not a wide spread as the media makes it out to be seeing as people who are dissatisfied are usually more vocal than those who are happy.

1. It appears a significant number of them have the problem. it does appear that the issue does not effect everyone equally(lefties seem to have much more problems).
2. that is being reported.
3. it is being reported that the new phones are slightly different. Stainless steel is not as shiny.

I highly suspect there has been a slight design change and given the short time to implement a fix, I would also suspect the problem was caught before the launch of the phone.
 

TheWart

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1. It appears a significant number of them have the problem. it does appear that the issue does not effect everyone equally(lefties seem to have much more problems).
2. that is being reported.
3. it is being reported that the new phones are slightly different. Stainless steel is not as shiny.

I highly suspect there has been a slight design change and given the short time to implement a fix, I would also suspect the problem was caught before the launch of the phone.

Are you going off of that one Gizmodo report? iFixit ran out and got a newer (week 28_ production phone and there was no difference.
 

AMDZen

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1. It appears a significant number of them have the problem. it does appear that the issue does not effect everyone equally(lefties seem to have much more problems).
2. that is being reported.
3. it is being reported that the new phones are slightly different. Stainless steel is not as shiny.

I highly suspect there has been a slight design change and given the short time to implement a fix, I would also suspect the problem was caught before the launch of the phone.

All these people (not just you but nearly everyone in these threads who is spouting off about it) who don't even own an iPhone should just STFU. Patranus is 100% correct, I don't know anybody personally who has this problem. When you sell 5+ million units in less then a month, yea its going to look like a huge problem. Nothing in the history of consumer electronics has sold this fast or been in the face of the media this much.
 

NFS4

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Analyst Claims Design Fix for iPhone 4 Signal Issue Being Deployed

Apple has created "a design fix for the iPhone 4 that more adequately insulates the transceiver," said Rodman Renshaw analyst Ashok Kumar, who spoke to the company's manufacturing partners.

Apple has told its manufacturers to alter the iPhone production process to include an internal component that will insulate the defective antenna connection that has disrupted the phone's signal reception, said Kumar. This internal bumper will give Apple a non-cosmetic solution and will presumably avoid the need to change the appearance of the phone, said Kumar.
 

ivan2

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yeah, a condom wrapped around the 1phone making it look like just any other smart phone, that will work well.

edit: hey looks like the condom's not needed, woohoo!
 
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Zebo

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LOL All the hysteria puts the iPhone 4 in the limelight like they committed child molestation or something, meanwhile, in the real world, the iPhone 4 busts all sales records internationally... Even a Pygmy warrior wants to get his hands on an iPhone and has never heard of Android. Suck it.

Oh did I mention I have no issue?
 
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