Apple continues to eliminate the dGPU

[ShintaiDK]

Yes, one drops a lot more than the other.

 

[readers]

... did you read first part of my post? Use your brain, of course igpu will take away some dgpu sales, why else would they exist in the first place? But once you factoring desktop sales decline, nothing indicate dgpu would go the way of dinosaurs.

Also Revenue wise, graphic card holds up very well compare to overall desktop sales

 

[ShintaiDK]

http://www.jonpeddie.com/publications/market_watch

Total discrete GPU (desktop and notebook) shipments from the last quarter decreased -17.07% and decreased -26.27% from last year.

Good luck keeping up the ROI for dGPUs with that free fall trend.

For revenue I dont hope you mean the cannibalization that NVidia did on AMD by showing NVidias revenue.

 

[readers]

http://www.jonpeddie.com/publications/market_watch



Good luck keeping up the ROI for dGPUs with that free fall trend.

LOL might want post something actually about ROI


http://www.wsj.com/articles/nvidia-profit-rises-31-1423691605

http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/06/nv...-than-expected-eps-of-0-34-revenue-of-1-15-b/

Can't find the break down, but gaming was by far the largest part and with high margins no less.

 

[ShintaiDK]

See my point, you have to use NVidia. A company that took massive market share from AMD and barely showed an increase. There is however only so much share they can take before they bleed themselves.

Or as NVidia likes to show it:

 

[readers]

If you look at AMD you could need to conclude CPU is dead first...

Also learn to read what you post first.

How much did nVidia gain by taking "massive market share from AMD" again?

EDIT:

nice edit, I see your point, but that would only make sense under the assumption dgpu's market share would keep going down non stop.

Which make your argument circular.

 

[ShintaiDK]

NVidia essentially only gained a 81M$ revenue on their large share increase.
http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-announces-financial-results-for-second-quarter-fiscal-2016

No surprise since the dGPU is dying fast with a rapid decline in volume.

 

[readers]

Errr, still the same circular argument, see my last post.

 

[ShintaiDK]

There is no sign of a stop in the decline, rather it accelerates. And as cost kicks in it only gets worse. Lower volume and higher cost is a bad combo. AMD cant make money, NVidia still can but for how long when they cant cannibalize on AMD.

 

[readers]

There is no sign of a stop in the decline. And as cost kicks in it only gets worse. Lower volume and higher cost is a bad combo. AMD cant make money, NVidia still can but for how long.

Stop trying to bring AMD if you want to discuss profit.

Learn to read, as I said before, if you look at AMD then you have to conclude CPU is dead first.

 

[ShintaiDK]

AMD is part of this thread. Apple dropped an AMD product. And AMD is one of the 2 discrete GPU makers.

I can see its not nice with the prospect of a dead dGPU segment. But until something radically changes this is the way.

 

[readers]

Not my point, I repeated almost all of them twice, still don't get it, you likely never going to get it...

 

[jpiniero]

AMD is part of this thread. Apple dropped an AMD product. And AMD is one of the 2 discrete GPU makers.

No they didn't. The previous 21" iMac had a 750M on the upgraded model.

 

[jpiniero]

Not my point, I repeated almost all of them twice, still don't get it, you likely never going to get it...

AMD's APUs have never really sold much so that wouldn't explain the GPU share droppage.

 

[ShintaiDK]

No they didn't. The previous 21" iMac had a 750M on the upgraded model.

Sorry my mistake. A dGPU is a dGPU tho.

 

[VirtualLarry]

No surprise since the dGPU is dying fast with a rapid decline in volume.

If dGPU IS "dying fast", then wouldn't Wall Street seek to prop up AMD, at least until they see if Zen can perform comparably to Intel in perf/watt, and at least be competitive in overall performance/core, what with AMD being in the best position to compete with Intel for integrated x86/x64-compatible desktop / mobile CPU, along with some of the industry's best graphics IP?

Edit: basically, if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't Nvidia (that doesn't produce x86-compatible APUs, but primarily video cards) be hurt, and AMD helped, by this market trend?

 

[Rakehellion]

Edit: basically, if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't Nvidia (that doesn't produce x86-compatible APUs, but primarily video cards) be hurt, and AMD helped, by this market trend?

Ha. No one wants AMD's CPUs either.

 

[Ajay]

If dGPU IS "dying fast", then wouldn't Wall Street seek to prop up AMD, at least until they see if Zen can perform comparably to Intel in perf/watt, and at least be competitive in overall performance/core, what with AMD being in the best position to compete with Intel for integrated x86/x64-compatible desktop / mobile CPU, along with some of the industry's best graphics IP?

Why would Wall Street 'help' AMD? Wall Street investment bankers are the anti-charity of our times. They don't invest so help a company over a hump unless they can make huge $$s off the deal.

 

[Ranulf]

Apple has a Mini PC i5 for $499...

Uh, yes. So? Its not comparable to the zotac example here. Its also about the only desktop type machine they make that is worth what you pay for it, hence I own a 2013 model.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Trackpad 2 is $129 and Magic Mouse 2 is $79. They also put the lightning connector on the bottom of the mouse which means if the battery dies, you can't use the mouse while it's being recharged.

Yeah but from the specs, 2 minutes of charging give around 9 hours of use, so go grab a cup of coffee and come back and use it for the rest of the day, or charge the damned thing every now and then.

Im more pissed about the RAM being soldered to the motherboard with the 21 inch.

 

[ALIVE]

Yeah but from the specs, 2 minutes of charging give around 9 hours of use, so go grab a cup of coffee and come back and use it for the rest of the day, or charge the damned thing every now and then.

Im more pissed about the RAM being soldered to the motherboard with the 21 inch.

how many people that will buy it will be surprised when they will try to upgrade the ram later on??

because i do not think apple is advertising the possibility of no ram upgrade

written in the specs may save apple from law suits but that will still piss people off. when you buy all they point the positives and just not talk about the negatives

but ram is 1 easy upgrade that can give some extra life to the machine
and it is gone

 

[AdamK47]

I'll just have to continue missing out on these "superior computers". I'm destined to continue using lowly PCs.