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jpetermann

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Originally posted by: Hacp
I don't know about that. With vista, everything just works. I tried a mac and got lost right away. With vista, if I wanted to install a printer, I just google the drivers and thats it! With a mac, I couldn't find any drivers for my printer after an hour of searching. Turns out macs didn't support my printer -_-.

Happens with games too. With vista, I just download DirectX and install the game. Runs pretty smooth after. With Macs, I tried to install a game and it turns out Macs aren't supported. You need to buy Vista and Bootcamp and go through a tedious installation process and lose HD space just to play the game! I didn't even bother with it after, because I found out that the graphics on the Black Macbook didn't even support the game.

I just feel that windows is more customizable. If you know what you're doing, you won't get lost.


 

Kmax82

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: mmntech
I bought my first Mac for battery life. Back in 2005 when I wanted a laptop for university, hardly any PC systems offered more than 4hrs. That just wasn't enough to last through the day. Then there was the shiny iBook G4 that offered 6hr, and actually lasted that long! Now I'm on my second. I'm working on my professional broadcast journalism certificate right now and a Mac is pretty much necessary since everybody in the industry uses Final Cut Pro these days. Sheridan College use it (North America's top animation school), Everybody Hates Chris uses it, 20th Century FOX uses it, South Park Studios has a huge Mac rendering farm. The first CGI movies were all done on Mac, most notably Toy Story. Multimedia is where Apple has always excelled. Windows has taken over with CGI, mostly IMO because of the faster GPUs available. Editing is all done on OS X though. Use Windows and you just end up paying the Adobe Tax.

With Mac, you're not paying for the hardware itself but for the user experience. It really does cater to a different sort of user than Microsoft does. Windows was originally, and largely still is, a business OS. That's what Microsoft is best at, which is why they really bungled things with Vista. The high upgrade costs and the stupid five tiered version system soured a lot of their core market off Vista. You'd be surprised at how many offices still use pre-Pentium IV workstations. Windows 7 is better than Vista but it still doesn't address this problem.

I don't know about that. With vista, everything just works. I tried a mac and got lost right away. With vista, if I wanted to install a printer, I just google the drivers and thats it! With a mac, I couldn't find any drivers for my printer after an hour of searching. Turns out macs didn't support my printer -_-.

Happens with games too. With vista, I just download DirectX and install the game. Runs pretty smooth after. With Macs, I tried to install a game and it turns out Macs aren't supported. You need to buy Vista and Bootcamp and go through a tedious installation process and lose HD space just to play the game! I didn't even bother with it after, because I found out that the graphics on the Black Macbook didn't even support the game.

I just feel that windows is more customizable. If you know what you're doing, you won't get lost.

C'mon, you're being for real? This has to just be flame bait. Do you expect to be able to install a "Windows" game on Linux/Unix? Do you actually read the box before you buy a game? Have you researched OS X at all?

Printer drivers are FAR easier to install on OS X, in fact, in the base install of OS X almost every printer I've tried to use has been automatically configured for my system just by plugging the USB cable in.

You're last statement works for just about ANYTHING. Of course "if you know what you're doing, you won't get lost." Jeesh...
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: umrigar
Not one single Mac Trojan/Virus has been shown to spread. NOT ONE, in all the years OS X has been out.
How would you like to define "spread"? Because while there aren't any OS X worms, the trojan situation has reached the point where there's a non-negligible number of machines compromised with trojans. There's a Mac botnet out there, composed of machines infected from compromised copies of iWork and PS CS4 downloaded from warez sources.

This would meet my own criteria for a trojan that successfully spread. It's a drop in the bucket compared to Conflicker, Code Red, etc, but it's something never the less.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Kmax82

C'mon, you're being for real? This has to just be flame bait. Do you expect to be able to install a "Windows" game on Linux/Unix? Do you actually read the box before you buy a game? Have you researched OS X at all?

Printer drivers are FAR easier to install on OS X, in fact, in the base install of OS X almost every printer I've tried to use has been automatically configured for my system just by plugging the USB cable in.

You're last statement works for just about ANYTHING. Of course "if you know what you're doing, you won't get lost." Jeesh...

Do a search of Hacp's posts. He either trolls in nearly every thread, or he's just plain stupid.
 

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Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: umrigar
Not one single Mac Trojan/Virus has been shown to spread. NOT ONE, in all the years OS X has been out.
How would you like to define "spread"? Because while there aren't any OS X worms, the trojan situation has reached the point where there's a non-negligible number of machines compromised with trojans. There's a Mac botnet out there, composed of machines infected from compromised copies of iWork and PS CS4 downloaded from warez sources.

This would meet my own criteria for a trojan that successfully spread. It's a drop in the bucket compared to Conflicker, Code Red, etc, but it's something never the less.

I think he was clear about how he'd define "spread" - it's in the part of his post that you trimmed:

I still maintain that the first person to code a Mac virus that can be spread WITHOUT the use of an administrator password (like MOST WINDOWS Trojans) can brag that he compromised the Mac's secure OS.
 

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Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: zerogear
Originally posted by: hans030390
Originally posted by: Ns1
15 minutes on my dad's dell laptop made me miss my macbook soooooooo bad

That said, you can pry xp out of my cold dead fingers.

15 minutes using Leopard made me miss Windows 7.

QFT

Out of curiosity - why? I'm not interested changing your mind (I use both OS X and Windows, and I like both), I'm just curious about what people don't like about OS X.
 

Hacp

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C'mon, you're being for real? This has to just be flame bait. Do you expect to be able to install a "Windows" game on Linux/Unix? Do you actually read the box before you buy a game? Have you researched OS X at all?

Printer drivers are FAR easier to install on OS X, in fact, in the base install of OS X almost every printer I've tried to use has been automatically configured for my system just by plugging the USB cable in.

You're last statement works for just about ANYTHING. Of course "if you know what you're doing, you won't get lost." Jeesh...

First of all, the game was Civ 4, which I heard was also supported by macs. Turned out that I needed to buy a special mac copy to install it. Dope!

Secondly, the printer wouldn't work. It was an old canon printer that we've since disposed of. But my sister needed to print something urgently and needed the printer to work. I ended up copying the files onto my laptop and printing it from there.

Finally, yes, I had trouble finding my way through OS 10. Everyone says they pick up the OS really fast, but I played with it for around an hour before I quit because it wasn't as intuitive as others say it is. Same thing with the Ipods. People raved about the user interface, but I didn't think it was anything special.
 

Kmax82

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Originally posted by: Hacp
First of all, the game was Civ 4, which I heard was also supported by macs. Turned out that I needed to buy a special mac copy to install it. Dope!

Secondly, the printer wouldn't work. It was an old canon printer that we've since disposed of. But my sister needed to print something urgently and needed the printer to work. I ended up copying the files onto my laptop and printing it from there.

Finally, yes, I had trouble finding my way through OS 10. Everyone says they pick up the OS really fast, but I played with it for around an hour before I quit because it wasn't as intuitive as others say it is. Same thing with the Ipods. People raved about the user interface, but I didn't think it was anything special.

The point is is that from your vast knowledge of Windows, you should've known that you still need to check compatibility with the system you are trying to use it on. Just because it's OS X and people seem to give it a god-like complex, doesn't mean that it works magic on something that isn't designed to work on it.

Companies still have to actually write the drivers, compile the applications, etc...

But to each his own. You don't like OS X, fine... but that doesn't somehow make Windows superior.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Hacp
C'mon, you're being for real? This has to just be flame bait. Do you expect to be able to install a "Windows" game on Linux/Unix? Do you actually read the box before you buy a game? Have you researched OS X at all?

Printer drivers are FAR easier to install on OS X, in fact, in the base install of OS X almost every printer I've tried to use has been automatically configured for my system just by plugging the USB cable in.

You're last statement works for just about ANYTHING. Of course "if you know what you're doing, you won't get lost." Jeesh...

First of all, the game was Civ 4, which I heard was also supported by macs. Turned out that I needed to buy a special mac copy to install it. Dope!

Secondly, the printer wouldn't work. It was an old canon printer that we've since disposed of. But my sister needed to print something urgently and needed the printer to work. I ended up copying the files onto my laptop and printing it from there.

Finally, yes, I had trouble finding my way through OS 10. Everyone says they pick up the OS really fast, but I played with it for around an hour before I quit because it wasn't as intuitive as others say it is. Same thing with the Ipods. People raved about the user interface, but I didn't think it was anything special.
I know how you feel...

I just went out and bought Call of Duty 4, heard it could run on my PC. Turns out that I have to buy a special PC version though, I guess the version that says XBOX 360 won't work... who would have thought??? <BTW you're an idiot>
 
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