Apple events are dead?

[purbeast0]

To me there's just too many concessions and strange design choices for the X that make me feel it was a rushed product. And there are too many people forgiving that notch, we should all expect a lot more from a $1000+ phone from one of the richest companies in the world. Slim top and bottom bezels with TouchID on the back would have made a world of a difference, both in form and function. Any other company tries releasing a phone with a notch like that, they'd be the laughingstock of the tech world, and rightfully so. As someone who finds smartphones incredibly useful and cool gadgets, I like seeing companies really push the boundaries of what can be done, while also presenting a modern, sleek device. The X feels like a lazy, one off by Apple, which will be rectified in the next iteration.

I'll have to see one in person, but right now I'm wondering what happens to battery percentage reading? None of the screenshots show it, and it looks like it wouldn't even fit next to the notch. People don't want a vague battery icon, they want to know exactly what percentage of battery life is left. What about bluetooth, alarms, location/gps usage, LTE/3G status? Why are notifications pulled down from the left (furthest from your thumb) and control center from the right? Shouldn't that be swapped? I've seen some people talk about the right/left swipe as though it's a feature of the notch!

Perhaps it could be that people have varying opinions than you do and that the notch really isn't that big of a deal. Just a thought.

I personally don't care too much what phones "look" like. I care more about the physical form factor than anything. When I saw the mockups of the phone prior due to the rumors, I was like yeah this looks pretty weird and stupid. But after seeing it in motion, while I don't think it is the greatest looking design, it doesn't bother me at all. When using the phone with an app that makes the sides of it black it won't even really be visible. When watching a movie on the phone I'd probably have it in that aspect fit mode vs. the aspect fill mode since that is what I did on my current phones, I don't want to miss any of the picture anyways.

As for the battery indication, I have never ever had my phone set to display the numbers. I've always just had a battery icon up there, up until recently when my battery started crapping out on me. But that was because I'd see it shoot from full to really low and wanted to know wtf was going on. But other than that, I don't see why knowing an exact percentage really matters and it definitely doesn't to me. Whether I have 90% or 85% doesn't matter, I know it's enough battery. Same if I have 10% or 5%, either way I know I need to charge it soon. But again, this goes back to just people's opinions and uses differing.

My main concern is the TouchID not being in there. I realized today how when I check my phone in the car (not necessarily while driving) that I kind of just have it sitting to the side and I unlock it by putting my finger on the button. They claim that FaceID works from angles and stuff, but I wonder how that will actually work in reality.

Also how does the finger print stuff work on the back of phones that have cases on them?

 

[dainthomas]

But who ever pays full price for a new Samsung phone? I can't remember the last time in years that launch promos weren't available with either a substantial bundle or trade-in offer that as long as you're not completely bad at things, can chop at least $100-200 off the actual price. And if you're willing to wait a month or two, can easily find larger discounts.

Otherwise I definitely wouldn't have cycled through the last several SS flagship at launch.

We got the T-mobile BOGO because we added a line we were going to anyway. Not a bad phone for $465.

 

[sze5003]

To me there's just too many concessions and strange design choices for the X that make me feel it was a rushed product. And there are too many people forgiving that notch, we should all expect a lot more from a $1000+ phone from one of the richest companies in the world. Slim top and bottom bezels with TouchID on the back would have made a world of a difference, both in form and function. Any other company tries releasing a phone with a notch like that, they'd be the laughingstock of the tech world, and rightfully so. As someone who finds smartphones incredibly useful and cool gadgets, I like seeing companies really push the boundaries of what can be done, while also presenting a modern, sleek device. The X feels like a lazy, one off by Apple, which will be rectified in the next iteration.

I'll have to see one in person, but right now I'm wondering what happens to battery percentage reading? None of the screenshots show it, and it looks like it wouldn't even fit next to the notch. People don't want a vague battery icon, they want to know exactly what percentage of battery life is left. What about bluetooth, alarms, location/gps usage, LTE/3G status? Why are notifications pulled down from the left (furthest from your thumb) and control center from the right? Shouldn't that be swapped? I've seen some people talk about the right/left swipe as though it's a feature of the notch!

They showed a slide up menu from the bottom where it houses all your icons, well almost all. Like the brightness, screen rotation, and battery level. Holding one of these brings it to front and center where you can view more info on it and change stuff.

I will have to see it in person honestly. My roommate mentioned it's gotta be better since they did away with the home button and now you just navigate with swiping. I told him you have an android and that's all you been doing this year so how's that different? His response was well the Android has the circle, left and square buttons on the screen and we use those. Yea, but you don't have to if you didn't want to do that. You could set up nova launcher to make the functionality all by swiping and even get rid of the UI buttons but you might need a mod for that. I know I was able to do that on my Nexus 6 without any further work.

 

[Commodus]

To me there's just too many concessions and strange design choices for the X that make me feel it was a rushed product. And there are too many people forgiving that notch, we should all expect a lot more from a $1000+ phone from one of the richest companies in the world. Slim top and bottom bezels with TouchID on the back would have made a world of a difference, both in form and function. Any other company tries releasing a phone with a notch like that, they'd be the laughingstock of the tech world, and rightfully so. As someone who finds smartphones incredibly useful and cool gadgets, I like seeing companies really push the boundaries of what can be done, while also presenting a modern, sleek device. The X feels like a lazy, one off by Apple, which will be rectified in the next iteration.

I'll have to see one in person, but right now I'm wondering what happens to battery percentage reading? None of the screenshots show it, and it looks like it wouldn't even fit next to the notch. People don't want a vague battery icon, they want to know exactly what percentage of battery life is left. What about bluetooth, alarms, location/gps usage, LTE/3G status? Why are notifications pulled down from the left (furthest from your thumb) and control center from the right? Shouldn't that be swapped? I've seen some people talk about the right/left swipe as though it's a feature of the notch!

I'd give it some time. To me, the notch may end up becoming a calling card, the thing you recognize as specific to the iPhone. I'm reminded a bit of the Essential Phone... it takes about a minute or two of using one before that camera notch fades into the background.

Apple has already elaborated that much of what you're looking for will be in those 'ears.' The question is whether or not the things you need to swipe to see are things you'll miss seeing right away, and whether swiping from the top down is fine for Control Center.

 

[biostud]

maybe because all new phones improve a little on the exact same things, speed and camera.

 

[core2slow]

Not shocking in the least bit that the herd here don't find anything wrong or unsettling with the notch. Given that it took 10 years for a radical design, I guess any change is a good change, even if it's an eyesore of an afterthought.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'd give it some time. To me, the notch may end up becoming a calling card, the thing you recognize as specific to the iPhone.

That does seem to be the marketing narrative from Apple at the moment. Which would either suggest that all iPhones going forward will have it or that its just a daft excuse. (And as just one iPhone out of the 8 iPhone models on sale now have it I'm going with daft marketing excuse right now).

 

[darkswordsman17]

I was going to respond to posts about pricing and RAM, but seems that people are just trying to fall back into old arguments.

I think its crap for the X to not have 4GB of RAM, and it should have 128GB standard. They're touting it as a special device, it should be above and beyond. I personally think they should also be including a higher quality DAC adapter as the headphone dongle. But that's Apple for ya.

Android isn't necessarily better (although sorry but anyone complaining that Android needs excessive amounts of memory just to function is being ridiculous, as Android has actually improved in that regard).

They both have areas I wish they'd improve, although I finally feel like I would be very happy with about 5 devices (iPhone X, Note 8, S8, V30, we'll see how the Pixel ends up). Those should all be good enough that there are only marginal compromises with enough other benefits to make up for them. I'm not happy about the prices, but hopefully the deals keep up (especially the B1G1).

Not shocking in the least bit that the herd here don't find anything wrong or unsettling with the notch. Given that it took 10 years for a radical design, I guess any change is a good change, even if it's an eyesore of an afterthought.

You know, its funny that people were complaining about how this place sucks now since all the fanboy fervor has dropped off meaning less posting. But this response perfectly shows why that made this place horrible. You clearly didn't read the thread, as there's lots of people complaining specifically about the notch and how awkward it makes the phone look. But yes, you will also see people saying they don't mind it.

You think this is a radical design? I actually think this looks like the early iPhones, and makes it look pretty outdated. I wasn't even a big fan of their newer design but it looks a lot better to me personally just because it was more unified. This is a step back (basically the worst look of the sandwich design from the 4/5 and also the worst parts of the more unified unified look as seen on the 3G and 6/7).

 

[core2slow]

I was going to respond to posts about pricing and RAM, but seems that people are just trying to fall back into old arguments.

I think its crap for the X to not have 4GB of RAM, and it should have 128GB standard. They're touting it as a special device, it should be above and beyond. I personally think they should also be including a higher quality DAC adapter as the headphone dongle. But that's Apple for ya.

Android isn't necessarily better (although sorry but anyone complaining that Android needs excessive amounts of memory just to function is being ridiculous, as Android has actually improved in that regard).

They both have areas I wish they'd improve, although I finally feel like I would be very happy with about 5 devices (iPhone X, Note 8, S8, V30, we'll see how the Pixel ends up). Those should all be good enough that there are only marginal compromises with enough other benefits to make up for them. I'm not happy about the prices, but hopefully the deals keep up (especially the B1G1).



You know, its funny that people were complaining about how this place sucks now since all the fanboy fervor has dropped off meaning less posting. But this response perfectly shows why that made this place horrible. You clearly didn't read the thread, as there's lots of people complaining specifically about the notch and how awkward it makes the phone look. But yes, you will also see people saying they don't mind it.

You think this is a radical design? I actually think this looks like the early iPhones, and makes it look pretty outdated. I wasn't even a big fan of their newer design but it looks a lot better to me personally just because it was more unified. This is a step back (basically the worst look of the sandwich design from the 4/5 and also the worst parts of the more unified unified look as seen on the 3G and 6/7).

Even if it's a horrible design, I'm sure that there are a lot of iFans who will clamour to it regardless, because it's a huge departure from the "huge bezels with big home button" of the past. How in the world does the X resembles earlier iPhones? Just because of the rounded edges?

 

[JimKiler]

I was going to respond to posts about pricing and RAM, but seems that people are just trying to fall back into old arguments.

I think its crap for the X to not have 4GB of RAM, and it should have 128GB standard. They're touting it as a special device, it should be above and beyond. I personally think they should also be including a higher quality DAC adapter as the headphone dongle. But that's Apple for ya.

Android isn't necessarily better (although sorry but anyone complaining that Android needs excessive amounts of memory just to function is being ridiculous, as Android has actually improved in that regard).

They both have areas I wish they'd improve, although I finally feel like I would be very happy with about 5 devices (iPhone X, Note 8, S8, V30, we'll see how the Pixel ends up). Those should all be good enough that there are only marginal compromises with enough other benefits to make up for them. I'm not happy about the prices, but hopefully the deals keep up (especially the B1G1).



You know, its funny that people were complaining about how this place sucks now since all the fanboy fervor has dropped off meaning less posting. But this response perfectly shows why that made this place horrible. You clearly didn't read the thread, as there's lots of people complaining specifically about the notch and how awkward it makes the phone look. But yes, you will also see people saying they don't mind it.

You think this is a radical design? I actually think this looks like the early iPhones, and makes it look pretty outdated. I wasn't even a big fan of their newer design but it looks a lot better to me personally just because it was more unified. This is a step back (basically the worst look of the sandwich design from the 4/5 and also the worst parts of the more unified unified look as seen on the 3G and 6/7).

You can get almost all of the new iPhone features on andriod but not in one device. My Moto X Pure has stero speakers which i love. My wife's S7 has the water resistance and which manufacturere has the dual lens camera? Too bad that would require 3 andriod phones to equate to one iPhone. Four andriod phones if you want an HTC which also omitted the headphone jack for some reason.

 

[zerocool84]

One of the problems with face unlock is you obviously can't be too far off from the camera so if you want your phone to unlock, you mostly have to have it pointed towards you. You can't have it on the side of you or down on your lap etc etc.

Also we know why the notch is there, yes it's extremely ugly and they could have easily created a flat line there, but even if it makes it uglier, Apple products have to have their own distinctive look, a trademarkable look. That's why the notch is there. That's the only reason for it.

 

[Oyeve]

You can get almost all of the new iPhone features on andriod but not in one device. My Moto X Pure has stero speakers which i love. My wife's S7 has the water resistance and which manufacturere has the dual lens camera? Too bad that would require 3 andriod phones to equate to one iPhone. Four andriod phones if you want an HTC which also omitted the headphone jack for some reason.

Apples implementation of stereo speakers is the worse on the market.

 

[gorcorps]

You can get almost all of the new iPhone features on andriod but not in one device. My Moto X Pure has stero speakers which i love. My wife's S7 has the water resistance and which manufacturere has the dual lens camera? Too bad that would require 3 andriod phones to equate to one iPhone. Four andriod phones if you want an HTC which also omitted the headphone jack for some reason.

The Note 8 has dual cameras... you know, the phone that was revealed weeks before the Apple event. I guess it's easy to make such claims when you just ignore anything that doesn't fit into the point you're trying to make.

 

[Oyeve]

The Note 8 has dual cameras... you know, the phone that was revealed weeks before the Apple event. I guess it's easy to make such claims when you just ignore anything that doesn't fit into the point you're trying to make.

Didn't htc have this year's ago as well?

 

[sdifox]

Didn't htc have this year's ago as well?

LG G6, Kyocera DuraForce Pro as well.

Cat S60 has one regular camera and one thermal.

 

[Oyeve]

LG G6, Kyocera DuraForce Pro as well.

Cat S60 has one regular camera and one thermal.

And I forgot, My LG-V20 has dual cameras as well.

 

[sdifox]

And I forgot, My LG-V20 has dual cameras as well.

Not water resistant though.

 

[Oyeve]

Not water resistant though.

Ah, true.

 

[JimKiler]

The Note 8 has dual cameras... you know, the phone that was revealed weeks before the Apple event. I guess it's easy to make such claims when you just ignore anything that doesn't fit into the point you're trying to make.

I am making claims? Just because i don't follow phones as closely as you do does not mean i ignore anything. But you can stop being a conceded jerk.

How about this, features that only go into the iPhone X, dual lens, OLED screen, and wireless charging are not in the iPhone 8 because even though they have been around for a while now but they are premium features for the Apple ecosystem? Does not compute!

 

[Zaap]

^ honestly I can't make out what point you're trying to make, but the iPhone 8 does have wireless charging.

Even Apple can't 'feature tease' that blatantly.

 

[FreidoNumeroUno]

I always thought my Galaxy S6 was the perfect smartphone design. Good to see Apple copy it for the iPhone 8. Too bad you still don't get AMOLED screen for your $700.

Dyou really think Apple would ever settle for anything less better or equal than amoled? And dyou really think Apple would call it amoled? You know Apple used gorilla glass on their phones and they did it first ever? But youd never hear that name from Apple. Btw all s8 got is its display. Its os is a personal data miner from google, which is the only thing they do better than an Apple


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[senseamp]

Apple displays are laughable junk by Android standards. iPhone8 gets a 750p LCD while Android flagships get 1440p OLEDs. If an Android flagship showed up with 750p LCD display, they'd get laughed at. Even for the iPhoneX, Samsung sold Apple some 600 nits dim 1125p OLEDS, while keeping the 1000 nit bright 1440p screens for its own products. And they got a stupid notch in them, while Samsung gets more display to body ratio without the notch. Functionally, the notch is like having thousands of dead pixels on the side of your screen. It's just a stupid idea. It's no surprise only Essential is trying it on Android side.

 

[core2slow]

I guess the OP got his answer as to why there weren't any threads on the Apple event. It brings out all the blind, ill-informed iFans from hibernation.

 

[purbeast0]

I guess the OP got his answer as to why there weren't any threads on the Apple event. It brings out all the blind, ill-informed iFans from hibernation.

He actually got the answer in the 5th post.

 

[Ichinisan]

Apple displays are laughable junk by Android standards. iPhone8 gets a 750p LCD while Android flagships get 1440p OLEDs. If an Android flagship showed up with 750p LCD display, they'd get laughed at. Even for the iPhoneX, Samsung sold Apple some 600 nits dim 1125p OLEDS, while keeping the 1000 nit bright 1440p screens for its own products. And they got a stupid notch in them, while Samsung gets more display to body ratio without the notch. Functionally, the notch is like having thousands of dead pixels on the side of your screen. It's just a stupid idea. It's no surprise only Essential is trying it on Android side.

Where does "750p" come from? "Plus" iPhones have been 1080p as long as they've existed.