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Originally posted by: TrentSteel
Originally posted by: Naustica
Dell needs to drastically lower the prices on DJ if they want people to bite and buy that big ugly iPod wannabe. Maybe at $99 I would consider DJ over iPod. DJ=dorky and iPod=hip. Ask kids why they buy $150 Nike shoes over $15 Walmart shoes.
Don't you remember the 20/20 expose in the 80's that revealed it only cost $5 to manufacture Michael Jordan's branded shoes, which at the time were selling for around $125? Before that there had been an ad in (I think) the New Republic or something else to the same effect.
Point is, high cost does not automatically mean better craftsmanship or quality of raw materials. If anything, Apple just advertises very well. They've successfully convinced quite a few people that they own a superior player.
Originally posted by: TrentSteel
Originally posted by: Naustica
Dell needs to drastically lower the prices on DJ if they want people to bite and buy that big ugly iPod wannabe. Maybe at $99 I would consider DJ over iPod. DJ=dorky and iPod=hip. Ask kids why they buy $150 Nike shoes over $15 Walmart shoes.
Don't you remember the 20/20 expose in the 80's that revealed it only cost $5 to manufacture Michael Jordan's branded shoes, which at the time were selling for around $125? Before that there had been an ad in (I think) the New Republic or something else to the same effect.
Point is, high cost does not automatically mean better craftsmanship or quality of raw materials. If anything, Apple just advertises very well. They've successfully convinced quite a few people that they own a superior player.
Originally posted by: TrentSteel
Originally posted by: Naustica
Dell needs to drastically lower the prices on DJ if they want people to bite and buy that big ugly iPod wannabe. Maybe at $99 I would consider DJ over iPod. DJ=dorky and iPod=hip. Ask kids why they buy $150 Nike shoes over $15 Walmart shoes.
Don't you remember the 20/20 expose in the 80's that revealed it only cost $5 to manufacture Michael Jordan's branded shoes, which at the time were selling for around $125? Before that there had been an ad in (I think) the New Republic or something else to the same effect.
Point is, high cost does not automatically mean better craftsmanship or quality of raw materials. If anything, Apple just advertises very well. They've successfully convinced quite a few people that they own a superior player.
Originally posted by: Milkyman
my brother sent in his ipod for service a while back it looked like they sent him a different ipod back as there were no scratches on it anywhere. turn around time was also very fast.
Originally posted by: timmychen
On Nike shoes:
Seriously though, Nike's are dang expensive... but do you REALLY think they feel the SAME as WalMart shoes? For instance, run and play some basketball in some Sketchers and you'll be on your way over to the Nike store really quick... Now, I'm not sayin' they're worth $125... but there's definately a little more quality.
One cheap parts:
Yes, most things take mucho less money to make,..... but the iPod sure doesn't cost $5 to make. And let's face it, little kids may be sowing up Michael Jordan's... (or today's LeBron James shoes which are expected to make a spash)... but they're not in the high tech assembly plant that puts iPods together (it's probably their parents with an extra 100 hours in training). In the iPod mini's, the 4GB Hitachi drive itself costs over $500 to the regular consumer.. and still quite a bit in bulk.
On Apple iPod service:
Apple iPod service is way above the rest. Yes, they replace the entire unit. Most likely you get a refurb, but that means the outside is perfect and the inside is working fine... and anything that might have been wrong with it was taken care of. In most cases, manufacturers put refurb products through more testing than the new products. But to the guy who has a messed up iPod... if you got dents, and issues like that... let's just say... you bring in a gateway notebook to gateway country and you ask for help... and the notebook is all banged up and dented... what do you expect them to say? About the crashing though, just do a restore, that fixes 99% of problems. Open up the iPod updater software and click "restore." Make sure you have the newest version.
On the iRiver:
Please... if that thing were any uglier.... Let's face it, in this day and age, consumers are looking not just for function, but also for form. I don't want just a fast car, I want it to look cool. Besides, there's just not beating iTunes.
Lastly, 3rd party accessories
I brought this up in my last post. Have you seen how many accessories there are for the ipod? Companies like Belkin make TONS of stuff from car chargers to cases, media readers to car mounts, etc. Just some of the companies that make accessories for the ipod: Apple, Belkin, Monster, Speck, MacXtreme, iSkin, inCase, MarWare, SiK, Alpine (new headunit with iPod controlling interface coming out), Altec Lansing, Dr. Bott, Griffin Technologies, and tons more. There are literally over 50 different cases available for the iPod. And here are just some of the stores that carry this stuff: Apple Store, BestBuy, Circuit City, Target, CompUSA, Fry's, Robinson's May (didn't think of that one eh?), Amazon.com, Buy.com, and tons of other B&M and online stores.
Oh, one last thing...
HP has partnered with Apple in releasing an HP branded iPod (imagine the HP blue on the iPod), and an HP branded iTunes. Now, if Apple has even converted on of its largest "competitors" into believing their technology is better... well, I guess that's good enough for a lot of people.
Originally posted by: timmychen
On the iRiver:
Please... if that thing were any uglier.... Let's face it, in this day and age, consumers are looking not just for function, but also for form. I don't want just a fast car, I want it to look cool. Besides, there's just not beating iTunes.
Originally posted by: timmychen
Oh, one last thing...
HP has partnered with Apple in releasing an HP branded iPod (imagine the HP blue on the iPod), and an HP branded iTunes. Now, if Apple has even converted on of its largest "competitors" into believing their technology is better... well, I guess that's good enough for a lot of people.