Rakehellion
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Its a rather great piece of SW.
Except it hasn't been updated in years to support features a lot of businesses need, like Microsoft's latest OS.
Its a rather great piece of SW.
Exactly. The people on here saying its better than 7 are just not IT people. And if they are they are not very advanced, probably level one break-fix. IE, geek squad BB workers.
It makes sense to me. Why would Apple take on supporting two operating systems that aren't even theirs? If you are going to support one it might as well be the latest version. Windows 8 will still launch and run your needed Windows applications as well as Windows 7 so I don't see the issue here.
In a sense it is a proprietary boot loader, but it does require drivers specific to Mac hardware- like EFI and hardware like the MacBook trackpads.How does Bootcamp work?
I'd always just assumed that it was a standard dual boot just with a proprietary boot loader and that the windows install just sorted out its drivers in the normal way. I wasnt aware that there was any particularly exotic hardware that didnt already have windows drivers.
In a sense it is a proprietary boot loader, but it does require drivers specific to Mac hardware- like EFI and hardware like the MacBook trackpads.
Basically, if Apple didn't support it, it'd be like Hackintoshing in reverse to run Windows on a Mac. Do-able, but definitely not seamless the way it should be. (In fact, that's pretty much how it used to be- there was XOM before it.)
I don't get dropping support for Windows 7 either. It has to be for a corporate reason more than a technical one.
So very true
Apple retires support for arbitrary reasons all the time, this is just another example.I don't get dropping support for Windows 7 either. It has to be for a corporate reason more than a technical one.
Apple retires support for arbitrary reasons all the time, this is just another example.
The drivers example some of you are citing sounds overblown. Most of the components like the GPU would likely use OEM reference drivers under Windows. Maybe Apple tweaks them a bit. I highly doubt they're writing custom drivers for each major component. Even if they were, a company with their resources could easily support teams of developers to maintain those drivers at virtually no impact to their net bottom line.
reading comprehension isn't your strong suit? I never said the video driver is the only one needed. Yet even the chipset INF generally isn't required, Windows will pick up most mainboards just fine except for maybe the cutting edge.So the graphics card is all you need huh? Crack open device manager someday and tell me how many devices are there that need a driver. It's a non-trivial number.
reading comprehension isn't your strong suit? I never said the video driver is the only one needed. Yet even the chipset INF generally isn't required, Windows will pick up most mainboards just fine except for maybe the cutting edge.
Point being, Apple writes few Windows device drivers to my knowledge. Feel free to contradict me if you'd like.
reading comprehension isn't your strong suit? I never said the video driver is the only one needed. Yet even the chipset INF generally isn't required, Windows will pick up most mainboards just fine except for maybe the cutting edge.
According to the Bootcamp FAQ, Apple supplies 20 drivers to be used with Windows. For sure many of these drivers can probably be found elsewhere, but it still seems like a decent amount to me. It isn't necessarily that Apple writes all of these drivers, but they still have to maintain a library that they know works with Windows. As their main focus isn't providing Windows support, it makes sense to me that they stop supporting obsolete versions of Windows (obsolete as in what is being sold as a consumer package).
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5639
Thanks for the info, Dave. I think Apple's language states what I'm saying, except more precisely. They don't write many Windows drivers from scratch, they just rebundle the reference drivers in most cases. Maintaining the library is hardly a chore for a company sitting on $150B of cash.
According to the Bootcamp FAQ, Apple supplies 20 drivers to be used with Windows. For sure many of these drivers can probably be found elsewhere, but it still seems like a decent amount to me. It isn't necessarily that Apple writes all of these drivers, but they still have to maintain a library that they know works with Windows. As their main focus isn't providing Windows support, it makes sense to me that they stop supporting obsolete versions of Windows (obsolete as in what is being sold as a consumer package).
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5639
The point Dave may be trying to make is that Apple doesn't give a rat's ass about the enterprise/corporate PC market. So they don't do things big businesses expect like long-term support. Tim Cook came from Compaq, I assume he could make some real strides in this area if he cared enough to.Are the newest Mac Pros considered consumer devices? Would seem they are designed more for commercial use and Windows 7 is anything but obsolete in the business sector.
The point Dave may be trying to make is that Apple doesn't give a rat's ass about the enterprise/corporate PC market. So they don't do things big businesses expect like long-term support. Tim Cook came from Compaq, I assume he could make some real strides in this area if he cared enough to.
I wouldn't even loosely use the term 'obsolete' for Windows 7, it still has mainstream support until next year and extended support until 2020. Yes, Microsoft makes consumers jump through hoops if they want Win7 on a new box, but retail inavailability aside, obsolete is still too strong a word.
If you just wiped the drive and installed windows as the lone OS what would happen?
Are the newest Mac Pros considered consumer devices? Would seem they are designed more for commercial use and Windows 7 is anything but obsolete in the business sector.