Apple Oct. 22 event: We Still Have A Lot To Cover

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SlitheryDee

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I'm kinda disappointed in there being no A7X processor this round. It's strange to think that a full sized ipad has no more graphics power than my phone besides what you get from the probable clock speed increase.

Am I incorrect in assuming that most ipad games are going to run slower on the ipad air than the iphone 5s? I mean, I realize that they can do things like double the pixels to get 1024x768, but that's still slightly more pixels to push than the iphone 5s has. I guess they can make up that much by increasing the clock speed though.
 
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AkumaX

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I don't know about that. Some people will value the larger screen over the other features. It wouldn't be the way I would go but I am sure some will.

-KeithP

Also, considering street value on iPad 2 is much lower (around $300ish). Unless they do something like upgrade the battery or something...
 

Eug

Lifer
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In case people are having a hard time deciding between the iPad mini retina and the air, remember that the PPI is much better on the mini.

326 ppi vs 264 ppi.

Just food for thought. I've made up my mind already.
You don't need to hold the Air as close as the mini. The 264 ppi on the Air won't be a significant issue.
 

Super56K

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Potentially best news of the day for me: iOS 7.0.3 with bug fixes and additional reduce motion options. Will be installing on the iPad tonight.
 

Koing

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But the 13 rMBP was laggy in general UI, no? Kinda like Android phones

I thought the update made the older HD4000 easier to live with for the 13 rMBP?

Koing
 

Generator

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Need help deciding on air or pro laptop 13:". Looking to jump into apple ecosystem with a 5s and either laptop. I really do prefer the air and its battery life. But people going on about retina, retina, retina. Basically I would sell either base model whether is air or pro for the 2014 MBAir next year. Seems like the choice is the pro to tide me over until, but is retina really that important at the cost of so much battery life?
 

Eug

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joshhedge

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Mavericks is very nice on my rPro! Probably a placebo effect but animations and UI performance seem improved on both DGPU and IGPU.

Multimonitor enhancements are greatly appreciated as well!
 

Smartazz

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Need help deciding on air or pro laptop 13:". Looking to jump into apple ecosystem with a 5s and either laptop. I really do prefer the air and its battery life. But people going on about retina, retina, retina. Basically I would sell either base model whether is air or pro for the 2014 MBAir next year. Seems like the choice is the pro to tide me over until, but is retina really that important at the cost of so much battery life?

I haven't used the 13" retina, but I've used the 13" Air and my 15" retina and the screen is worth it. Not to mention that the Pro has more CPU power.
 

Andrmgic

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Mavericks is very nice on my rPro! Probably a placebo effect but animations and UI performance seem improved on both DGPU and IGPU.

Multimonitor enhancements are greatly appreciated as well!

I see an improvement too and I've been using Mavericks since DP 1

I don't think it's a placebo
 

Koing

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Yeah, but that's testing on an Air, without Retina.

I'm tempted to order the 13", but I'd like to see a (p)review of the Retina 13" with HD 5000.

Edit.

These guys say it is totally smooth unlike the previous model.

http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/22/4867374/new-macbook-pro-hands-on

I'm going to wait for more reviews first before I jump in. I'm thinking 16GB and 512GB. That should tide me over for years considering what I've been working on. If something else comes out worth the upgrade I'll sell and upgrade. Job done.

I need to pick up something to connect to my HDTV as well. Probably a second hand mac mini?

Koing
 

chin311

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Just sold my iPad mini this morning for $225, only paid $299 new back in March so didn't feel bad at all about the deal. The mini was getting to feel slowwwww already can't imagine what it's going to be like in the future..

I think it's hilarious the iPad 2 remains @ $399, kinda baffling but whatever.

Mini Retina for $399 is kinda steep with the new "Air" @ $499, but guess a hundred bucks is a hundred bucks and some prefer smaller form factor, I'm sure they'll sell well.

Unless I just can't live without an iPad, I'll probably sit it out and see how things go.

Going to update my MBA tonight to Mavericks and my 5S to 7.0.3!
 

hellfire88

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Correct. I'm actually debating on getting rid of ny current laptop (11" Sager w/ GT 650m) and picking up a new 13" MBP

Thanks, so the HD 5100 in the 13" rMBP is even better than the HD 5000 in the MBA 13"....but has to drive a way higher res. Either way, the lag issues in the 13" rMBP should now be fixed it seems.

Man, like others have said the 13" rMBP is now a very tempting machine. I'm eyeing the standard $1499 model (Core i5-2.4GHz, 8GB, 256GB) or upgrading that one to 16GB of RAM (but for $200 more....dang).
 

Ns1

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Thanks, so the HD 5100 in the 13" rMBP is even better than the HD 5000 in the MBA 13"....but has to drive a way higher res. Either way, the lag issues in the 13" rMBP should now be fixed it seems.

Man, like others have said the 13" rMBP is now a very tempting machine. I'm eyeing the standard $1499 model (Core i5-2.4GHz, 8GB, 256GB) or upgrading that one to 16GB of RAM (but for $200 more....dang).

Yes, buy it so I can buy it from you on fs/t in 2 weeks lol.


no seriously man, you are a professional trader or a professional gadget whore. not like there's anything wrong with either.
 

blackened23

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That ipad rMini price is absolutely absurd. And iPad 2? You have GOT to be kidding me. I feel like apple trolled us. Especially when you can get a Nexus 7 for a little over 200$.

I love apple hardware but I hope that bites them in the rear. Stupid, so stupid.
 

Koing

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Oct 11, 2000
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The iPad Mini Retina is thicker and a tiny bit heavier

iPad Mini
Dimensions
200 x 134.7 x 7.2mm
Weight (WiFi)
308 grams (0.68 pounds)
Weight (Cellular)
312 grams (0.69 pounds)
Battery
16.3-watt-hour lithium polymer

iPad Mini Retina
Dimensions
200 x 134.7 x 7.5mm
Weight (WiFi)
331 grams (0.73 pounds)
Weight (Cellular)
341 grams (0.75 pounds)
Battery
23.8-watt-hour lithium polymer

The battery is nearly 50% bigger than the original so that would be where most of the weight comes from? I guess they need it to power the retina screen.

Koing
 

gar655

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That ipad rMini price is absolutely absurd. And iPad 2? You have GOT to be kidding me. I feel like apple trolled us. Especially when you can get a Nexus 7 for a little over 200$.

I love apple hardware but I hope that bites them in the rear. Stupid, so stupid.


It's not all about the hardware. You're also paying for the (IMO) much better ecosystem and OS. Android is generally a mess, especially the phones. Now with Mavericks the iOS and OSX integration is better too.

iOS is leagues ahead of Android in the things that matter most to the majority of buyers. Those buyers do NOT frequent tech forums.
 

Ns1

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It's not all about the hardware. You're also paying for the (IMO) much better ecosystem and OS. Android is generally a mess, especially the phones. Now with Mavericks the iOS and OSX integration is better too.

iOS is leagues ahead of Android in the things that matter most to the majority of buyers. Those buyers do NOT frequent tech forums.

while I agree with you, it's still $400 vs $230, and that's what matters to many buyers.
 
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