Apple Oct. 22 event: We Still Have A Lot To Cover

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Koing

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£160 to go from 8GB to 16GB, serious APPLE TAX

Hmmmm...

The 512GB rMBP is a decent amount more expensive...

Koing
 

Sho'Nuff

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Not too terribly impressed. The weight drops are nice but otherwise it seems that the ipad and mini just got expected upgrades (retina for the mini, A7 chips for both).

That said, I am in the market for a new ipad ever since my 80 year old father conscripted my ipad 2. Its going to be a tough decision between the ipad air and the ipad mini. Not sure if the $100 price bump is worth it for a slightly larger display.
 

Doppel

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$499 two years ago bought an iPad 2. Now they are still charging $399? Hilarious. I will put out a feeler on crapslist and even though I do not need an upgrade whatsoever if I can offload mine for $300 maybe I will.
 

Eug

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1. My iPad 2 must have the world's longest life span in Apple terms.

2. I was thinking a friend's kid who just bought the iPad mini probably should have waited. Well, it turns out she made the right move, because the mini remains, and she couldn't have afforded the iPad mini Retina so she would have bought the mini anyway.

3. The MacBook Air 13" is now almost superfluous. The Retina Pro 13" is where it's at.

4. I'm glad I didn't rush to sell my 2009 13" MacBook Pro non-Retina, as I kinda needed it, and the Pro with optical drive still remains, at the same price. I might buy the new Retina 13", and then will try to convince my wife to sell her white MacBook, so we keep the 13" non-Retina Pro as the kitchen computer. (She likes the white MacBook because it has a separate trackpad button.) The white MacBook has a poor screen, and goes into vacuum cleaner mode with HD video. Also, the white MacBook is stuck with 10.6. My non-Retina Pro has Mavericks 10.9 on it already.

5. What does having an Intel Iris non-Pro mean for responsiveness? I don't game, but don't want to suffer in Retina.
 
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Koing

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1. My iPad 2 must have the world's longest life span in Apple terms.

2. I was thinking a friend's kid who just bought the iPad mini probably should have waited. Well, it turns out she made the right move, because the mini remains, and she couldn't have afforded the iPad mini Retina so she would have bought the mini anyway.

3. The MacBook Air 13" is now almost superfluous. The Retina Pro 13" is where it's at.

4. I'm glad I didn't rush to sell my 2009 13" MacBook Pro non-Retina, as I kinda needed it, and the Pro with optical drive still remains, at the same price. I might buy the new Retina 13", and then will try to convince my wife to sell her white MacBook, so we keep the 13" non-Retina Pro as the kitchen computer. The white MacBook has a poor screen, and goes into vacuum cleaner mode with HD video. Also, the white MacBook is stuck with 10.6. My non-Retina Pro has Mavericks 10.9 on it already.

5. What does having an Intel Iris non-Pro mean for responsiveness? I don't game, but don't want to suffer in Retina.

Point 5 is very valid. It can't be worse than the HD4000 in the non haswell 13 rMBP right?

Koing
 
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Hmm. The 13" rMBP seems like a nearly perfect laptop, and very fairly priced in its base configuration, but I would still have to pay $1,799 to get one with 512GB in SSD, which is what I'm used to with my current mid-2009 13" MBP with Crucial M4. As such, I will soldier on with my 4+-year-old MBP, which remains the best computer I've ever owned.
 

Eug

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Hmm. The 13" rMBP seems like a nearly perfect laptop, and very fairly priced in its base configuration, but I would still have to pay $1,799 to get one with 512GB in SSD, which is what I'm used to with my current mid-2009 13" MBP with Crucial M4. As such, I will soldier on with my 4+-year-old MBP, which remains the best computer I've ever owned.
I am in almost the exact same situation as you, and yes, the 13" rMBP is nearly the perfect fit for me. However, I'm fine with the 8 GB 256 GB model. I'm currently using a Samsung 120 GB SSD in my 2009 with 4 GB.

The only thing that would be more perfect for me would be 12" Retina, as predicted by one of the analysts, but I'm not counting on that.

P.S. I'm wondering if I should sell my MBP with SSD 120 GB or with 250 GB platter drive. I'm thinking the latter.
 

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JAG87

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In case people are having a hard time deciding between the iPad mini retina and the air, remember that the PPI is much better on the mini.

326 ppi vs 264 ppi.

Just food for thought. I've made up my mind already.
 

Koing

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In case people are having a hard time deciding between the iPad mini retina and the air, remember that the PPI is much better on the mini.

326 ppi vs 264 ppi.

Just food for thought. I've made up my mind already.

I wonder if the iPad mini retina can do slow mo video capture?

Koing
 

KeithP

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In case people are having a hard time deciding between the iPad mini retina and the air, remember that the PPI is much better on the mini.

326 ppi vs 264 ppi.

Just food for thought. I've made up my mind already.

Doesn't seem like enough of a difference to be a major factor but it would be interesting to compare them side by side.

-KeithP
 

ss284

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64GB max ram option for the mac pro makes it worthless for research use. I guess graphics designers are apple's bread and butter.
 
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999, 1099, 1299, 1999. Big gap exists at 1299, 1999.

I guess that's where the retina air fits in? But the retina air is only .5 lbs lighter now it gets questionable. Maybe the 15" CMBP should've remained at 1599
 

Koing

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RAM is expensive now and this is PCIe SSD.

Ram isn't that expensive.

16GB for £130-150, but they are taking away the 8GB that I would have bought anyway, so that is at least £40-50. Hmmm...doesn't seem too bad then the difference being £100 and they are charging me £160 for the upgrade.

PCIe SSD Hmmmm...any reason why they are much more expensive then normal SSDs apart from the interface it's surely the same memory chips right?

Koing
 

JAG87

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Doesn't seem like enough of a difference to be a major factor but it would be interesting to compare them side by side.

-KeithP


It is if you intend to use it primarily for reading. Especially if you have the bad habit like I do to read in bed with the screen pretty close to your eyes.

But for everything else, I agree with you.
 

MrX8503

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Ram isn't that expensive.

16GB for £130-150, but they are taking away the 8GB that I would have bought anyway, so that is at least £40-50. Hmmm...doesn't seem too bad then the difference being £100 and they are charging me £160 for the upgrade.

PCIe SSD Hmmmm...any reason why they are much more expensive then normal SSDs apart from the interface it's surely the same memory chips right?

Koing

I agree that the RAM upgrade is expensive. PCIe SSDs is twice as fast at r/w compared to regular SATA3 SSDs.
 

gus6464

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New 13 MBP is almost the perfect machine. And 1399 with edu discount for 8gb and 256ssd is not bad. I am just afraid of Iris being kinda laggy.
 

spacejamz

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I have my finger on the trigger for the new Nexus 7 32GB but was waiting to see what was going on with a retina Mini...

After seeing the $399 price tag, Apple has made my decision for me.

$329 for the retina mini would have made it very interesting....
 
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Aikouka

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RAM is expensive now and this is PCIe SSD.

16GB of RAM alone costs around $140 from Newegg, and he's citing the upgrade price in GBP.

Point 5 is very valid. It can't be worse than the HD4000 in the non haswell 13 rMBP right?

Koing

The HD5000 is definitely better than the HD4000:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7072/intel-hd-5000-vs-hd-4000-vs-hd-4400

I agree that the RAM upgrade is expensive. PCIe SSDs is twice as fast at r/w compared to regular SATA3 SSDs.

That's just because of the difference in the interface. The only thing that would make the PCI-E SSD more expensive is that they aren't that common.
 

MrX8503

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That's just because of the difference in the interface. The only thing that would make the PCI-E SSD more expensive is that they aren't that common.

I don't think you can buy a PCIe SSD.
 
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