Apple refreshes iMac with R9 295X?! EDIT: It's the M295X

[USER8000]

I think it is a QC problem TBH - otherwise that poster swapping his current iMac for a new one would have not solved the problem.

Also,since Apple likes making thin designs their computers and tablets have no leeway in cooling if there are QC problems - it happened with their laptops and tablets in the past too.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Apple generally has the lowest failure rate in the industry, love me or hate em they know how to make a reliable product.

 

[Silverforce11]

Apple generally has the lowest failure rate in the industry, love me or hate em they know how to make a reliable product.

Remember Bumpgate?

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1736698/nvidia-settles-bumpgate-class-action-lawsuit

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...ffers-low-laptop-replacement-bumpgate-victims

A lot of macs died.

Being so thin in design for the high power hardware, I would not think their tolerance is high for things like thermal paste application inconsistencies or even assembling. If the M295X is a 120W part, that won't leave much room for human errors. :/

 

[RussianSensation]

wow so much fud out there, Lol a poster claimed that a 980m could match a 290x in performance. That is how bad it is for AMD.

When 2011 MacPros failed due to insufficient heat system design, the bandwagon jumpers were too quick to blame AMD or (anyone else as usual) besides Apple for failing to design a proper chassis/cooling system. Secondly, it is not the first time you have a high end part throttle under Windows in a Mac.

2013 MacBook Pro review

"Our stress test with Prime95 and FurMark shows that the CPU in particular reaches very high temperatures, close to 100 °C (212 °F). As we mentioned in the Processor section, we can see a drop below the nominal clock under Windows, but not under Mac OS.

The Intel Core i7-4850HQ is a high-end notebook CPU with its four cores and a nominal clock of 2.3 GHz. Intel specifies the maximum Turbo Boost with 3.5 GHz and a TDP of 47 Watts....We could not determine any throttling under Mac OS, despite our continuous stress test with a Terminal process, a Cinebench loop and the Unigine benchmark. The Turbo Boost is immediately activated again as soon as the CPU cooled down after a period at the nominal clock. It seems that the utilization of the Turbo is good, but the average temperature of the CPU under continuous load is pretty high at 90 °C (194 °F). The throttling behavior changes dramatically under Windows. The clock is 500 MHz under the base frequency in our stress test with Prime95 and FurMark.

Aluminum has the advantage of a stylish design and the distribution of local hot spots. The problem is that this material warms up somewhat quickly and, because of the thin construction of the device, it can result in unpleasant temperatures."
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-Retina-15-Late-2013-Notebook-Review.120330.0.html

Who would have thought the i7-4850HQ Haswell is such a "horrible" processor by Intel that it throttles 500Mhz BELOW base clock and runs at 90-100C in a MacBook Pro at full load under Windows!!! ... And of course this has nothing, nothing to do with Apple trying to cram such powerful components into an aluminum thin chassis with limited cooling. It's obviously always Intel's, MS, AMD's fault, never Apple's!!

I guess the Barefeats benchmarks of 295M beating 780M in most games at 2560x1440 are fake.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Apple generally has the lowest failure rate in the industry, love me or hate em they know how to make a reliable product.

No they dont. Also working in a large company. The defect rate of Apple products is actually higher than other manufactors.

Another example from Apple.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...ints-mount-over-2011-macbook-pro-gpu-failures

 

[Enigmoid]

Apple generally has the lowest failure rate in the industry, love me or hate em they know how to make a reliable product.

They sell the most expensive notebooks in the industry which has to be taken into account.

Not to mention the test itself is flawed.

The secret of their success isn’t all that surprising. Both companies deliver relatively clean installations of Windows, with close attention paid to drivers. Dell includes minimal amounts of third-party software in its PCs, a practice that adds to the reliability of its products. By contrast, when I last looked at consumer PCs from HP and Samsung I found that crapware was a performance-sapping nightmare.

Clean install on mac vs. crapware OEM install on most windows programs. Please, if you're going to install windows on a mac (clean install) then you can at least remove the crapware from the windows notebooks. Or do a clean install there.