Apple v. Samsung Jury Decision.

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Phokus

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I let it go, as I normally do, since such "lawyer jokes" are generally a sign that the jokester is an idiot lacking actual support for their position and/or sees that he is losing the argument. However, when he decided to actually defend the personal attacks, I decided it was best to nip it.

As with all Apple-bashers, they decided to attack the messenger instead of the message. Unless you want the thread locked, such things must stop early.

MotionMan

Your skin... is the thinnest i've ever seen.
 

cheezy321

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Dec 31, 2003
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It's called playing defense you idiot. What is google supposed to do, let Apple walk all over them without fighting back?

Apple has not sued Google directly over android. It has not happened. We all know how badly you want to position the almighty savior Google as the defender. You can't change simple facts. Apple has not sued Google over android. Google threw out the first lawsuit against Apple. HTC is not Google. Samsung is not Google. You cannot lump them into the same company no matter how hard you try. Step outside of your reality distortion field.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Apple has not sued Google directly over android. It has not happened. We all know how badly you want to position the almighty savior Google as the defender. You can't change simple facts. Apple has not sued Google over android. Google threw out the first lawsuit against Apple. HTC is not Google. Samsung is not Google. You cannot lump them into the same company no matter how hard you try. Step outside of your reality distortion field.

Apple had the Galaxy Nexus banned.
 

Phokus

Lifer
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Apple has not sued Google directly over android. It has not happened. We all know how badly you want to position the almighty savior Google as the defender. You can't change simple facts. Apple has not sued Google over android. Google threw out the first lawsuit against Apple. HTC is not Google. Samsung is not Google. You cannot lump them into the same company no matter how hard you try. Step outside of your reality distortion field.

By attacking Google's partners, they are attacking Google's product, android, and thus attacking google indirectly. Google assigned some of their patents to HTC in order to defend them against Apple. And Google and Apple are now in talks to halt the lawsuits and maybe come to some sort of cross licensing agreement. IF Google didn't buy up Motorola et al, and threaten countersuits, do you HONESTLY think Apple would come to the negotiating table? Stop being obtuse.

Google made that phone? That's news to me...

Holy shit, you actually typed this out.
 

TuxDave

Lifer
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http://newyork.newsday.com/business...le-verdict-won-t-sway-global-judges-1.3949209

The U.S. jury verdict was a "decision without reasons" and isn't "particularly persuasive," said John Swinson, an intellectual property lawyer at King & Wood Mallesons in Brisbane

he's wrong

there was a reason

they were bitter apple fanboys

I'm beginning to think you're just here to troll the forums. The jury is very non-techy all but one doesn't even own an iPhone. How does that make them Apple fanboys?

When it comes to their gear, the jurors generally are not on the bleeding edge. One member owns an iPhone and no one owns a Samsung smartphone. However, two of them own Samsung feature phones. One of the unemployed jurors said he doesn't own a mobile phone.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57499944-37/how-qualified-is-the-apple-samsung-jury-we-found-out/
 

cheezy321

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By attacking Google's partners, they are attacking Google's product, android, and thus attacking google indirectly. Google assigned some of their patents to HTC in order to defend them against Apple. And Google and Apple are now in talks to halt the lawsuits and maybe come to some sort of cross licensing agreement. IF Google didn't buy up Motorola et al, and threaten countersuits, do you HONESTLY think Apple would come to the negotiating table? Stop being obtuse.



Holy shit, you actually typed this out.

Google did not manufacture the nexus. There is nothing you can say otherwise. Nothing. It is still built by another company. You can say 'partners' all you want, but it is not the same company. It isn't. Samsung lost their lawsuit against Apple.

Google fired the first bullet against apple. There is nothing you can say otherwise. NOTHING. No matter how much you want to distort reality, this cannot change. You can't revise history. By your own logic Apple is suing itself since Samsung is a partner and parts supplier for their products as well.
 

Oyeve

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Google did not manufacture the nexus. There is nothing you can say otherwise. Nothing. It is still built by another company. You can say 'partners' all you want, but it is not the same company. It isn't. Samsung lost their lawsuit against Apple.

Google fired the first bullet against apple. There is nothing you can say otherwise. NOTHING. No matter how much you want to distort reality, this cannot change. You can't revise history. By your own logic Apple is suing itself since Samsung is a partner and parts supplier for their products as well.

Google made the nexus as much as apple makes iphones.
 

chimaxi83

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Holy crap, and I thought the Intel/AMD and Nvidia/AMD fanboys were bad

Live and let live, people. All these companies see is $$$, forum fights don't get you discounts lol.

(posted from one of my Android devices )
 

Phokus

Lifer
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Google did not manufacture the nexus. There is nothing you can say otherwise. Nothing. It is still built by another company. You can say 'partners' all you want, but it is not the same company. It isn't. Samsung lost their lawsuit against Apple.

Google fired the first bullet against apple. There is nothing you can say otherwise. NOTHING. No matter how much you want to distort reality, this cannot change. You can't revise history. By your own logic Apple is suing itself since Samsung is a partner and parts supplier for their products as well.

You do realize that they designed the software for it... specifically to be used by the N7 first, and they also helped design the hardware, right? So they didn't subcontract out the actual manufacturing of the device to some 3rd party? THAT is your retort? Talk about desperation.

Also LULZ and google firing first at Apple. That apple reality distortion field is getting more ridiculous with each post of yours.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Google did not manufacture the nexus. There is nothing you can say otherwise. Nothing. It is still built by another company. You can say 'partners' all you want, but it is not the same company. It isn't. Samsung lost their lawsuit against Apple.

Google fired the first bullet against apple. There is nothing you can say otherwise. NOTHING. No matter how much you want to distort reality, this cannot change. You can't revise history. By your own logic Apple is suing itself since Samsung is a partner and parts supplier for their products as well.

Apple did not manufacture the iPhone either, it's built by Foxconn and/or Pegatron depending on the model.
 

cheezy321

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You do realize that they designed the software for it... specifically to be used by the N7 first, and they also helped design the hardware, right? So they didn't subcontract out the actual manufacturing of the device to some 3rd party? THAT is your retort? Talk about desperation.

Also LULZ and google firing first at Apple. That apple reality distortion field is getting more ridiculous with each post of yours.

Please post the evidence of Apple firing the first shots at Google directly. I am begging you to prove me wrong. Until you do it is a complete and utter lie. A fabrication based on your reality distortion field. Apple suing Google before they purchased motorola does not count.

Here is my evidence:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/blogs/pr...-Apple-for-Patent-Infringement-166785056.html

Please show me the evidence where Apple sued Google. Prove me wrong.
 

TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
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Holy crap, and I thought the Intel/AMD and Nvidia/AMD fanboys were bad

Live and let live, people. All these companies see is $$$, forum fights don't get you discounts lol.

(posted from one of my Android devices )

Yeah it's pretty bad in here these days but then again I have to put up with stuff like this daily IRL. It's tough to be the only iPhone user among Android coworkers.
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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Please post the evidence of Apple firing the first shots at Google directly. I am begging you to prove me wrong. Until you do it is a complete and utter lie. A fabrication based on your reality distortion field. Apple suing Google before they purchased motorola does not count.

Here is my evidence:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/blogs/pr...-Apple-for-Patent-Infringement-166785056.html

Please show me the evidence where Apple sued Google. Prove me wrong.

LULZ, you just don't get it, by suing Google's partners, they are attacking the heart of Google's product and that hurts Google. Again, are you being intentionally obtuse? Apple is trying to destroy Android. Or at least extract significant rents from it.
 

MotionMan

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From a purely legal perspective as well, the trial seemed inherently biased from the start. Even before the first accusations had been exchanged, presiding Judge Lucy Koh – now a bit of a legal celebrity and a good bet to get her own reality TV show in the future – sent out a clear message by granting Apple pre-trial sales bans on a number of Samsung Galaxy products. In other words, the jury's more hesitant members had a precedent to refer to when making their decision - the legal expert had already effectively gone on the record as being convinced by Apple's case.

Was the jury told about the sales ban?

MotionMan
 
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