Apple Watch - I'm unimpressed

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Red Storm

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I'd imagine that if it get stolen or lost, it deactivates it. So you pair it to your phone & wear it, then activate it via TouchID for purchasing authorization, then if someone rips your watch off & tries to buy stuff, they can't because it lost connection with your vitals, so it's no longer authenticated.

The Bluetooth connection already takes care of that though. Unless the thief plans on stealing your watch and then buying stuff right there in front of you, as soon as they run away with it the ability to buy things is gone.
 

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The Bluetooth connection already takes care of that though. Unless the thief plans on stealing your watch and then buying stuff right there in front of you, as soon as they run away with it the ability to buy things is gone.

What if you are mugged and both your watch and phone are stolen?

 

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You still need to input a passcode/Touch ID so that's also covered.

But that's once right, and not every time once you've established a trust between phone and watch for the day?

Or do you still have to authenticate on every transaction with the phone? Which is annoying then because it just repeats the question of ...what's the point of the extra device?
 

Red Storm

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But that's once right, and not every time once you've established a trust between phone and watch for the day?

Or do you still have to authenticate on every transaction with the phone? Which is annoying then because it just repeats the question of ...what's the point of the extra device?

99% sure it won't be just once. On Google Wallet if you've typed in your pin then you're good to go for 30 minutes I believe.

I thought I remember seeing you can input the pin on the watch itself? The point is to not have to bring your phone out of your pocket (which is really not that different than bringing out your wallet).
 

QuantumPion

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Here's my feelings on the apple and the iwatch vs. the iphone.

Iphone, 2007: Here is a new smartphone to replace your old cellphone. It's smaller, lighter, and superior in every way to your current cellphone. It has a super easy to use interface that can also browse the web anywhere. You'd like to browse the web anywhere, right?

Me: Heck yes! I'll take 8!

iWatch, 2014: Here's a new watch. I know you don't wear a watch now because your smartphone is like a pocketwatch, but you should get this anyway because it's stylish. It's a little complicated to use and kind of clunky though and we haven't perfected it yet. We're not sure what features would be useful to you, maybe you could tell us what you would do with it!

Me: I dunno. Meh.

Point being - the iwatch doesn't do anything new or better than other devices or provide a new killer application. It's purely a stylish toy right now.
 

Red Storm

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Here's my feelings on the apple and the iwatch vs. the iphone.

Iphone, 2007: Here is a new smartphone to replace your old cellphone. It's smaller, lighter, and superior in every way to your current cellphone. It has a super easy to use interface that can also browse the web anywhere. You'd like to browse the web anywhere, right?

Me: Heck yes! I'll take 8!

iWatch, 2014: Here's a new watch. I know you don't wear a watch now because your smartphone is like a pocketwatch, but you should get this anyway because it's stylish. It's a little complicated to use and kind of clunky though and we haven't perfected it yet. We're not sure what features would be useful to you, maybe you could tell us what you would do with it!

Me: I dunno. Meh.

Point being - the iwatch doesn't do anything new or better than other devices or provide a new killer application. It's purely a stylish toy right now.

The original iPhone was terrible, it was not better in every way, not at all.

While I think they went in the wrong direction for their watch UI and controls, as someone who has actually used a smartwatch I can tell you that they are useful gadgets. I've already written why I think so countless times so I'm not going to repeat myself, but the only people I see knocking smartwatches are those who haven't used one.
 

Kaido

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The Bluetooth connection already takes care of that though. Unless the thief plans on stealing your watch and then buying stuff right there in front of you, as soon as they run away with it the ability to buy things is gone.

Yeah, I'm curious how exactly this is all implemented...
 

Tyranicus

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Iphone, 2007: Here is a new smartphone to replace your old cellphone. It's smaller, lighter, and superior in every way to your current cellphone.

The Nokia flip phone I discarded for the first iPhone was much lighter and supported 3G.
 

Eug

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Me too. The more we know, the better.

Also I just realized that the Apple watch is actually taller/thicker than the Moto 360. 12.6mm vs 11.5mm.

They're both over a cm thick? WTF? I think the last watch I had (15 years ago), was maybe 6 mm.

No wonder it fails the cuff test.
 

Rottie

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I think Apple Watch is great for celebrities I bet Steve Ballmer might want to buy it. And they can afford $349.00
 
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Played with my G Watch and 360 for the past 2 hours, and rewatched the keynotes for both I/O and Apple's September event, and here's what I found.

Maps Interface: Apple offers a viewable map which is huge. It might not give you the functionality that a phone gives, but its still nice to have a visual image.

Time home: Apple copied Google clearly with a "Now" like card, but the card not only shows the time home, but also shows a mini map. To me that's more useful.

Replying to texts/messages: Not only do you get an option to use prewritten responses (which is important because not everyone wants to talk to their watch unless they're in a more private location), but you can still use voice dictation.

The timer screen on the watch: You can control minutes and seconds easily on the Apple Watch. On Android, its pretty simple list of 5 second intervals and then 1 minute intervals.

Calendar screen: Not just a card, but you can visually see the rest of your appointments too, and showing color codes next to each event looks nice.

Camera/Remote Shutter: Apple Watch mirrors your camera view. It's kinda why we use the front camera for selfies. Otherwise people could just hold the phone backwardsand use the rear camera. Android Wear is simply a shutter button.

It's interesting to see where Android will go from here, but I have to be honest and say the Apple Watch seems to be far more functional out of the box. I do wonder if having no buttons on the Android watches did hurt them. The 360 seems to waste the crown button as a power button, but I'm sure it could do a lot more.

I'm pretty impressed with the Apple Watch quite honestly. Its a step up in functionality and polish from my current Android Watches. While I know Google has time to improve these watches, I fear there may not be enough time. What will keep Android alive is probably the low price on these things. If Apple came out the door at $200, Android Wear would be history... well maybe not given you need an iPhone.
 

Red Storm

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If Apple came out the door at $200, Android Wear would be history... well maybe not given you need an iPhone.

This is an important thing to note, the smartwatch battle isn't going to be like the smartphone battle, people will more than likely already have their phone, so the smartwatch options are basically pre-selected for them. An iPhone user only has the Apple Watch to consider, while an Android user will have different Wear models to choose from, but they're all Android Wear watches.
 

eelw

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This is an important thing to note, the smartwatch battle isn't going to be like the smartphone battle, people will more than likely already have their phone, so the smartwatch options are basically pre-selected for them. An iPhone user only has the Apple Watch to consider, while an Android user will have different Wear models to choose from, but they're all Android Wear watches.

But if option was available, doubt many would mix and match iOS and android devices. The huge majority would still stick with same line.
 

HaukSwe

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The original iPhone was terrible, it was not better in every way, not at all.

The original iPhone put the real internet in your pocket in a usable way, it was also the first good touch screen. And it did apps well.

This watch.. all features. Gimmicks. No real benefits? What do I actually need it for? Apple was never about gimmicks. Why why why is it such an issue to reach in my pocket and look at my phone? I can see the point if it wasn't phone-dependent, the tether makes this a fail. Perhaps the point is to look at it only as a watch, with some gimmicks thrown in.

Phone in pocket is an issue, and a distraction at the gym. But i need it for music, running tracking and HR monitor sync. But why leave out the GPS? If Nike and Garmin can make GPS watches, why not apple? For a gym iPod, this is perhaps a decent option. It's light, might have some workout-tracking apps, and has HR monitoring which my nano has not. The digital crown might be better to use when sweaty, unlike my nano. The nike+ combo with the footpod is quite inaccurate though, and i was hoping they'd improve that.


Now upgrade the damn iMacs and stop making toys.
 
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TreVader

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I will state again that I don't care for watches, however were I to get a watch, I'd be hard pressed to find one better for casual use.

I suspect apple may be on to something.
 

scannall

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I don't like or wear watches, and have no interest in this one either. I can see though, why it would need to be tethered to the iPhone. You can't get much of a processor and battery in such a small space, so making the phone do the heavy lifting makes perfect sense.
 

alkemyst

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The only thing I've thought was more stupid in recent years from Apple after hearing about the first time was the no-button iPod shuffle.



We'll see how this Apple Watch sells, but my guess it will be closer to the no-button shuffle category than the iPad category.

the no button shuffle is VERY popular with runners. They can't mess with buttons and the like anyway. Put in your playlist and enjoy.
 

alkemyst

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I will state again that I don't care for watches, however were I to get a watch, I'd be hard pressed to find one better for casual use.

I suspect apple may be on to something.

The Apple watch looks much better to me than almost any smart / digital watch that are so common today.

You can dress it up with metal bands or go sporty with rubber.

It is very pricey.
 

Enigmoid

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the no button shuffle is VERY popular with runners. They can't mess with buttons and the like anyway. Put in your playlist and enjoy.

Because a lock button never existed?

IMO the iwatch is too big and clunky for me to ever consider it.

Its certaintly not innovative, looking very similar to the nano 6th gen.

Nano was 37.5 x 41 x 8.78 mm making it very similar in size. Nano, surprise surprise could be mounted on a band.



They took something like this



And made a few minor modifications to get this



They seem to have made it a lot thicker but its certaintly more sleek.
 

Enigmoid

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I wonder since the apps are in a circular group if the interface is being designed for an round screen as well. Square icons would make more sense on a rectangular screen.

Perhaps, All I know is that my sausage fingers would never hit the icons accurately. The standard keyboard on a 4.3" phone is difficult for me to type on without undue care for finger placement. A 3.5" iphone is extremely difficult and the LG G2 is fairly easy.
 

Subyman

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I was hoping the Apple Watch wasn't like all those other watches out there. However, the fact of the matter is that it seems just like everything else.

I think the entire watch movement and wearables seems like a forced consumer product. I haven't been convinced by anything I've seen that they will enhance my day-to-day activities. I can see in the future when they are more ubiquitous. When car manufacturers, banks, merchants, garage door openers, home accessories, TVs, etc get on board then it will start to become something really neat.

Unlock/start car, proximity unlock for house/car, open garage door, change channel on TV, replace wallet, store driver's license, etc etc. There is a lot that can be done, but it is only the very beginning.

Not convinced of that, given the keynote. Those apps in general looked really forced.

That's true. The real power of the device will come out with third party adoption. Apple has given us a good start with Apple Pay, but I think it will be a few cycles before they start to shine.

I too will have to reserve final judgement, but I can tell you I'm not buying an 18k gold electronic device that will be out of date in a year.

That's the tough part. Jewelry that goes obsolete after a year isn't something I want to get locked into. With computer upgrades, phone upgrades, and tablet upgrades, adding another device to charge and replace yearly is a big turn off.

The Motorola looks prettier. Then again, reviews state that the Motorola interface is basically usuable.

I'm more convinced that Apple will make the watch work more than Android derivatives.
 

TreVader

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The Apple watch looks much better to me than almost any smart / digital watch that are so common today.



You can dress it up with metal bands or go sporty with rubber.



It is very pricey.


For a sapphire bezel watch it's dirt cheap.


Anyway it's a watch and therefore boring to me. But I do predict it will be a success financially at least.

It might be worth mentioning that I'm almost always wrong and also deceptively credulous.
 
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