I presume waiting for 14nm yields to improve to the point where they can ship enough chips for the Macbook. It's a big seller, and Core M was trickling out to begin with.
As an XPS 13 owner, I find myself drooling over the aesthetics of this new MacBook. Unfortunately, it's a bit pricey for what I need it for, and I don't know if I could deal with the performance of a Core M. I also paid far less for the XPS 13 than the lowest configuration of this new MacBook.
how hard would it be to port IOS and apps to x86? isnt that the biggest deterrent to getting intel inside an ipad? or iphone for that matter?
No, the biggest deterrent is, that Intel does not have anything competetive with respect to performance/power. It is not even worth trying porting iOS. Recompilation of apps would not be in the hands of Apple anyway.isnt that the biggest deterrent to getting intel inside an ipad?
Well the title of this thread is "Apple may abandon Intel for its Macs starting with post-Broadwell" so there's still that road to consider afterwards as well.I'm going to guess this will be a very short cycle and we'll see a new macbook air january/december? Broadwell releases have been weak all around but I doubt they'll want to be late on skylake?
Intel will provide the fast wireless modem chip for a new Apple smartphone in 2016, VentureBeat has learned from two sources with knowledge of the companies plans.
Intels new 7360 LTE modem will occupy a socket on the new iPhones circuit board thats long been reserved for Qualcomm chips.
Intel has been gunning hard during the past year for a place in the iPhone and now appears to have succeeded, at least partly. The 7360 chip will ship inside a special version of the iPhone that will be marketed to emerging markets in Asia and Latin America, the sources said.
Intels 7360 LTE modem chip is capable of 450 megabits per second (mbps) of download speed, and supports Category 9/10 LTE and 3X carrier aggregation. Industry analysts have told VentureBeat that the chip has impressed phone makers for being well built, power efficient, and fast.
For months Apple engineers have been making trips to Munich, Germany to work with Intel engineers to ready the ready the Intel LTE chip for the iPhone, one of our sources said.
The Intel facility in Munich is the former home of Infineons communications chip business, which Intel acquired back in 2010. Its now the seat for research and development of Intels next generation of LTE chips.
Infineon once produced the 3G modem chips for iPhones at the Munich facility, but Apple quickly stopped sourcing the chips from Infineon after Intel bought the company.
One of our sources said that Intel has been willing to go a long way to get its LTE chips into Apple phones. This might include high levels of integration with Apples A(x) processor.
Qualcomm has long been the leader in providing chips for phones, and has provided the modems for generations of iPhones. But our sources say Apple and Qualcomm have an uneasy relationship.
Second sourcing [finding a second supplier for] a major component might give Apple the upper hand in the relationship, one source said.
Intel has acknowledged that it is running behind rival Qualcomm in the smartphone market, but the company says providing chips for the devices is a major initiative now.
Much of Intels efforts in mobile have gone toward creating modems (the 7160 and 7260) and systems on a chip (the SoFia SOC) for mid-priced phones, many of which are marketed in emerging markets.
Getting a chip back into an iconic device like the iPhone is a major win for Intel.
One of our sources pointed out that the deal could still fly off the rails if Intel misses key deadlines, or if some other blow-up between the companies occurs. But given Intels pressing need to catch up in the mobile space, and the miles in that direction this deal could push it, Intel isnt likely to let that happen.
Neither Intel nor Apple chose to comment on this story.
Not sure what thread to put this in
http://venturebeat.com/2015/03/10/iphones-will-ship-with-intel-lte-chips-inside-in-2016/
Is the 7360 suppose to be internal. I thought intel had plans to internalize all their baseband and integrated soc's by next year?
7360 is external. Intel moves its modems to 14nm with the 7460.
so why wouldn't apple use the 7460 if its out 1h next year (presumably). just seems odd.
Credibility?
I doesn't surprise me that Intel will gradually replace as many iPhone components as they can.
Must be pretty believable you'd think. Apple would surely be very happy to get dual sourcing on their modems and I'm not sure how many options that leaves them?
They'd certainly be expected to be looking into it.
No, the biggest deterrent is, that Intel does not have anything competetive with respect to performance/power. It is not even worth trying porting iOS. Recompilation of apps would not be in the hands of Apple anyway.
I'll bet you Apple has had iOS running on Intel for years.
When they made the announcement of switching MACs from Power to X86 they said they had co-developed OSX on both platforms for five years.
I think the thing we would see first, as an indication that Apple was moving IOS devices to Intel, would be signs of a reduction in Apple's ARM design teams.
Personally, I would expect that Apple would move towards using Intel as a fab source before they would move IOS off ARM. Vertical integration is too important to Apple's business model for it's mobile devices.
I think apple is definitely going to reconsider since the launch of X-Gene.
Definitely the opposite. Apple is on a hiring spree for all things silicon. Their plans and ambitions are only growing in the silicon department.
In that case, we have our answer. For certain, Apple is sticking with ARM for mobile devices.
Since they are hiring engineers with 'Big core' experience, there is a reasonable probability that Apple plans on scaling ARM performance to it's entry level MacBooks (or a next level up new product category) - we'll just have to wait and see.
Sure Apple wants Intel and also qcom profit - the last part is more difficult and then they get sour.
But everyone and his brother is designing big cores now. Samsung investment in tech r&d is going beserk. When qcom positions the a72 as midrange for h2 - and a72 ipc is core like - then we can expect both samsung, qcom, and next apple arm cpu to be extremely fast. Who ends up with the winner?
If A72 is being positioned mid-range, then that's pretty favorable for all those players, yet there is something even more potent out there, as Ashraf posted on SeekingAlpha. Even higher FPU performance. (The linkedin picture is down stating the next codename Ares unfortunately).
I think the distinguishing factor in why the A72 is being pushed as mid-range solution is because we're only see dual-cores out there so far. Like I said before leading-edge processes will add that high-end factor, but also they could double up the cores like they have so frequently over the past couple of years.